How long to hold a block?

[thepoors]

Question was asked in the AC forum so I'm curious about WJ.

[PostmasterGeneral]

There is already a thread on this…

[Aspiredtofly]

50 years likely

[Mach1]

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Where?

[averageatbest]

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Where?

Getting off reserve in YYC/YVR is around 7 year mark for FOs assuming encore stays on the list (dare I say), from what I've heard and looking into it a bit. Captains are bit longer on reserve, think its 16 or so years for yyc? YVR cant be too far off that either, not entirely sure; too lazy to look that up.

One thing most don't realize is that WJ is going the Swoop way (good job boys) come February 1st. 18 days a month for those on full reserve blocks, seniority bidding for only those on reserve for ONLY days off and the ability of crew schedule to shift your reserve days into days off *cough* grey days *cough*
yes...this is for mainline.
We might actually get rid of LOU 2 (swoop portion of the contract) but it'll just be merged into the WJ one and we'll let them do it, again.

This is all from an MEC email dated back November 16th, 2022.
Hopefully this changes for those on it, but probably won't.

That being said, if you live in your respective base, it's not bad at all I hear with some positives. Commuters...good luck.

[Mach1]

Getting off reserve in YYC/YVR is around 7 year mark for FOs assuming encore stays on the list (dare I say), from what I've heard and looking into it a bit. Captains are bit longer on reserve, think its 16 or so years for yyc? YVR cant be too far off that either, not entirely sure; too lazy to look that up.

One thing most don't realize is that WJ is going the Swoop way (good job boys) come February 1st. 18 days a month for those on full reserve blocks, seniority bidding for only those on reserve for ONLY days off and the ability of crew schedule to shift your reserve days into days off *cough* grey days *cough*
yes...this is for mainline.
We might actually get rid of LOU 2 (swoop portion of the contract) but it'll just be merged into the WJ one and we'll let them do it, again.

This is all from an MEC email dated back November 16th, 2022.
Hopefully this changes for those on it, but probably won't.

That being said, if you live in your respective base, it's not bad at all I hear with some positives. Commuters...good luck.

Thanks.

[Canadaflyer46]

New seniority list as of a few days ago.
Most junior blockholder FO currently has a hire date of:

YYZ: Feb 2020
YVR: Mar 2016
YYC:Mar 2016

For an upgrade, most junior captain (not a blockholder, BOTL) has a hire date of:

YYZ: Mar 2013
YVR: Oct 2009
YYC: Oct 2008

Some other stats.

Most junior blockholder for 737 Captain:

YYZ: Aug 2010
YVR: Apr 2007
YYC: Aug 2006

787 FO:
Most junior:Jul 2013
Most junior blockholder: Oct 2012

787 Captain:
Most junior: May 2002
Most junior blockholder: May 2001

[thepoors]

New seniority list as of a few days ago.
Most junior blockholder FO currently has a hire date of:

YYZ: Feb 2020
YVR: Mar 2016
YYC:Mar 2016

For an upgrade, most junior captain (not a blockholder, BOTL) has a hire date of:

YYZ: Mar 2013
YVR: Oct 2009
YYC: Oct 2008

Some other stats.

Most junior blockholder for 737 Captain:

YYZ: Aug 2010
YVR: Apr 2007
YYC: Aug 2006

787 FO:
Most junior:Jul 2013
Most junior blockholder: Oct 2012

787 Captain:
Most junior: May 2002
Most junior blockholder: May 2001

Appreciate it

[digits_]

These are some really depressing numbers. Yikes.

[Canadaflyer46]

These are some really depressing numbers. Yikes.

Even worse is that middle management still thinks WJ is a great place to be, and we’re going to be hiring hundreds this year they say! They’re lucky that WJ is a good path to AC or else no one would be coming here, several have left during ground school lately. Sounds like Jazz guys are coming across again just like the old days. However this time it’ll only be for a year or two and they’ll be off to Big Red. We’re lucky that it’s free to train pilots here (direct quote from management).