WestJet Pilots are very transpicious!
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WestJet Pilots are very transpicious!
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The CEO sent an email to all the passengers this morning.
"This year, its no joking matter!"
Copy of the letter posted on the website.
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/who-we-are/nojoke
Who want's to start a public petition to request removal of the CEO?
Bad taste. Foreign based CEOs ruining the safe & fun airline which was built by thousands of hard working Canadians over 3 decades.
Many passengers would sign for his removal after what he sent this morning.
"This year, its no joking matter!"
Copy of the letter posted on the website.
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/who-we-are/nojoke
Who want's to start a public petition to request removal of the CEO?
Bad taste. Foreign based CEOs ruining the safe & fun airline which was built by thousands of hard working Canadians over 3 decades.
Many passengers would sign for his removal after what he sent this morning.
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What's wrong with the message on their website? Sounds like a typical marketing webpage that doesn't say much.CanadaAir wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:18 am The CEO sent an email to all the passengers this morning.
"This year, its no joking matter!"
Copy of the letter posted on the website.
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/who-we-are/nojoke
Who want's to start a public petition to request removal of the CEO?
Bad taste. Foreign based CEOs ruining the safe & fun airline which was built by thousands of hard working Canadians over 3 decades.
Many passengers would sign for his removal after what he sent this morning.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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What was special about WestJet was its employees and their culture of creativity. Seems ALPA has harnessed what made WJ special and is using it against them. This video contrasted with managements response shows which side had the old WJ spirit and which side was the stiff white collar accountants chasing a dime over all else.
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The CEOs not a Canadian citizen.
If you showed him a map of Canada and asked him to name a point in the network, he probably can’t identify it.
He has no clue about Medevac or float flying, and the steps pilots took to reach WestJet.
Or what Air Canada was like before WestJet competed with it.
The only reason he’s in Canada is for money.
He doesn’t really care about the company that was built, the loyal passengers or the employees.
There was no mention of safety or a fun place to work in his statement, being a WestJetter team isn’t in his plans.
His statement's about seriousness and making a higher salary for himself. He’s not in it for the pilots, FAs, mechanics, CSAs and others.
He’s already stated that he wants to eliminate WestJet tails. This means bottom seniority employees aren’t in his plans.
Yet he’s adding tails by working with Sunwing.
His goals align with eliminating high paid WestJet pilots and replacing them low pay new hires at Sunwing and Swoop.
This is all about whether current WestJet employees will exist in a few years, or if WestJet will only be a brand name.
Don’t let a foreign CEO representing a large group of foreign investors follow through on his plan to ruin the company and replace it with another.
All pilots need to stand against this. The era of low pay airline piloting must end.
Housing prices have over doubled, inflations out of control and there’s been no major increases or rewards for the past 15 years.
$200/hour minimum for an FO, $300/hour minimum for a Captain.
Plus they must pay for all the time wasted deadheading, bad scheduling and other company inefficiencies wasting a pilots life.
If you showed him a map of Canada and asked him to name a point in the network, he probably can’t identify it.
He has no clue about Medevac or float flying, and the steps pilots took to reach WestJet.
Or what Air Canada was like before WestJet competed with it.
The only reason he’s in Canada is for money.
He doesn’t really care about the company that was built, the loyal passengers or the employees.
There was no mention of safety or a fun place to work in his statement, being a WestJetter team isn’t in his plans.
His statement's about seriousness and making a higher salary for himself. He’s not in it for the pilots, FAs, mechanics, CSAs and others.
He’s already stated that he wants to eliminate WestJet tails. This means bottom seniority employees aren’t in his plans.
Yet he’s adding tails by working with Sunwing.
His goals align with eliminating high paid WestJet pilots and replacing them low pay new hires at Sunwing and Swoop.
This is all about whether current WestJet employees will exist in a few years, or if WestJet will only be a brand name.
Don’t let a foreign CEO representing a large group of foreign investors follow through on his plan to ruin the company and replace it with another.
All pilots need to stand against this. The era of low pay airline piloting must end.
Housing prices have over doubled, inflations out of control and there’s been no major increases or rewards for the past 15 years.
$200/hour minimum for an FO, $300/hour minimum for a Captain.
Plus they must pay for all the time wasted deadheading, bad scheduling and other company inefficiencies wasting a pilots life.
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Funny rant, but what is important is whether or not he can fix the inefficiencies and increase profits, which he seems to be doing.
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Which inefficiencies? The ones caused by running 4 different airlines under one umbrella? That's 4 different office staff, 4 different benefits programs, 4 different compensation models, 4 different dispatch and operations departments, 4 different sets of executives and managers all reporting to the parent operation. Those inefficiencies?
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Exactly he’s duplicating positions so he can have 4 independent airlines to sell off.Mostly Harmless wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:15 amWhich inefficiencies? The ones caused by running 4 different airlines under one umbrella? That's 4 different office staff, 4 different benefits programs, 4 different compensation models, 4 different dispatch and operations departments, 4 different sets of executives and managers all reporting to the parent operation. Those inefficiencies?
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At the rate they are going, I'll be surprised if they have even one operating airline to sell off.
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Don't underestimate the value of being able to whipsaw the employees.
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One that comes to mind is customer service, and specifically having to talk to someone on the phone to change a flight made with a companion voucher, or to modify a change of itinerary rather than being able to do it online. That is something that is specifically mentioned in the April 1st email. There is also the installation of the ADL 737NG drag reduction kits, which started a year ago, and Westjet had their first revenue flight using it a week ago.Mostly Harmless wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:15 am
Which inefficiencies? The ones caused by running 4 different airlines under one umbrella? That's 4 different office staff, 4 different benefits programs, 4 different compensation models, 4 different dispatch and operations departments, 4 different sets of executives and managers all reporting to the parent operation. Those inefficiencies?
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Their drag reduction strategies will be saving them millions come the end of May when every plane is parked!CpnCrunch wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:13 pmOne that comes to mind is customer service, and specifically having to talk to someone on the phone to change a flight made with a companion voucher, or to modify a change of itinerary rather than being able to do it online. That is something that is specifically mentioned in the April 1st email. There is also the installation of the ADL 737NG drag reduction kits, which started a year ago, and Westjet had their first revenue flight using it a week ago.Mostly Harmless wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:15 am
Which inefficiencies? The ones caused by running 4 different airlines under one umbrella? That's 4 different office staff, 4 different benefits programs, 4 different compensation models, 4 different dispatch and operations departments, 4 different sets of executives and managers all reporting to the parent operation. Those inefficiencies?
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Not when the contract for that work was signed/awarded by and to the former COO's "retirement" venture. I'm guessing someone got a killer deal.Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:32 pmTheir drag reduction strategies will be saving them millions come the end of May when every plane is parked!CpnCrunch wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:13 pmOne that comes to mind is customer service, and specifically having to talk to someone on the phone to change a flight made with a companion voucher, or to modify a change of itinerary rather than being able to do it online. That is something that is specifically mentioned in the April 1st email. There is also the installation of the ADL 737NG drag reduction kits, which started a year ago, and Westjet had their first revenue flight using it a week ago.Mostly Harmless wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:15 am
Which inefficiencies? The ones caused by running 4 different airlines under one umbrella? That's 4 different office staff, 4 different benefits programs, 4 different compensation models, 4 different dispatch and operations departments, 4 different sets of executives and managers all reporting to the parent operation. Those inefficiencies?
(I get your sarcasm. Just adding to it)
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CanadaAir wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:07 pm The CEOs not a Canadian citizen.
If you showed him a map of Canada and asked him to name a point in the network, he probably can’t identify it.
He has no clue about Medevac or float flying, and the steps pilots took to reach WestJet.
Or what Air Canada was like before WestJet competed with it.
The only reason he’s in Canada is for money.
He doesn’t really care about the company that was built, the loyal passengers or the employees.
There was no mention of safety or a fun place to work in his statement, being a WestJetter team isn’t in his plans.
His statement's about seriousness and making a higher salary for himself. He’s not in it for the pilots, FAs, mechanics, CSAs and others.
He’s already stated that he wants to eliminate WestJet tails. This means bottom seniority employees aren’t in his plans.
Yet he’s adding tails by working with Sunwing.
His goals align with eliminating high paid WestJet pilots and replacing them low pay new hires at Sunwing and Swoop.
This is all about whether current WestJet employees will exist in a few years, or if WestJet will only be a brand name.
Don’t let a foreign CEO representing a large group of foreign investors follow through on his plan to ruin the company and replace it with another.
All pilots need to stand against this. The era of low pay airline piloting must end.
Housing prices have over doubled, inflations out of control and there’s been no major increases or rewards for the past 15 years.
$200/hour minimum for an FO, $300/hour minimum for a Captain.
Plus they must pay for all the time wasted deadheading, bad scheduling and other company inefficiencies wasting a pilots life.
Did you just refer to Alexis as "you people" Mr. Cherry? Clive was a "you people" long ago too as was David Neeleman, etc
When's the last time an airline pilot made a good CEO? Based on the working conditions pilots throughout the industry agree to over and over again I'd take a hard pass on a professional pilot CEO.
Is there a more disorganized, back stabbing, group of professionals? Who else takes a big paycut top be responsible for even more people?
WJ ALPA seems to forget they recommended the current agreement to the pilot group not that long ago. There was a pilot shortage back then too.
They only reason there aren't pilot scabs is because of the company specific training requirements. There's several other 737 NG/Max operators in this country
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bobcaygeon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:55 pm
WJ ALPA seems to forget they recommended the current agreement to the pilot group not that long ago. There was a pilot shortage back then too.
They absolutely did not recommend this agreement. It was forced upon them in arbitration. No recommendation, no vote.
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Those are very strong opinions you have about a subject you seem to know nothing about.bobcaygeon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:55 pm Did you just refer to Alexis as "you people" Mr. Cherry? Clive was a "you people" long ago too as was David Neeleman, etc
When's the last time an airline pilot made a good CEO? Based on the working conditions pilots throughout the industry agree to over and over again I'd take a hard pass on a professional pilot CEO.
Is there a more disorganized, back stabbing, group of professionals? Who else takes a big paycut top be responsible for even more people?
WJ ALPA seems to forget they recommended the current agreement to the pilot group not that long ago. There was a pilot shortage back then too.
They only reason there aren't pilot scabs is because of the company specific training requirements. There's several other 737 NG/Max operators in this country
I'm going to knock this up a notch with my spice weasle. Bam!
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Transpicuous? ha ha. I had to look that up. I wonder if anyone else did
. I wonder why I have never hear that word before. Too long for Scrabble.




