Another example of the bad info pilots can be given

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Re: Another example of the bad info pilots can be given

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rookiepilot wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:15 pm
digits_ wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:43 pm
7ECA wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:51 pm Pardon the "ignorance", but what the hell is the issue?

The crew had a fire warning light come on - they ran the checklist, saw no visible signs of fire, and decided to RTB. Seems like a prudent enough decision.

While on the short jaunt back to the departure airport the medic saw smoke coming from the engine (after the light shut off, seems like an indication something could be FUBAR with the detection system - at least in my uniformed view), so the crew shut it down and landed safely.

Gosh, it just boggles the mind how this could have turned out any better than it did...
I think his point was that the medic thought there was smoke coming from the engine, but in reality there was none, or at least nothing abnormal.

Either that, or somebody got REALLY creative with their ferry permit :wink:
and this WAS a medic. I wouldn't expect a pilot to accurately convey critical medical information to me about a patient, either.

FO could have easily gone back and looked for themselves.
It's shameful how quickly pilots will throw each other under the bus. "You could have easily done x"

Oh were you there?
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Re: Another example of the bad info pilots can be given

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newlygrounded wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:23 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:15 pm
digits_ wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:43 pm

I think his point was that the medic thought there was smoke coming from the engine, but in reality there was none, or at least nothing abnormal.

Either that, or somebody got REALLY creative with their ferry permit :wink:
and this WAS a medic. I wouldn't expect a pilot to accurately convey critical medical information to me about a patient, either.

FO could have easily gone back and looked for themselves.
It's shameful how quickly pilots will throw each other under the bus. "You could have easily done x"

Oh were you there?
Your response does not change the reality of the information I am posting. That information is........repeated examples of bad information being given to pilots and why they should not trust things such as passengers claiming smoke. If that is throwing pilots under the bus instead of keeping this reality secret, then so be it.
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Re: Another example of the bad info pilots can be given

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We were doing a test flight in Germany many years ago, towing the survey bird under the DC3T.....

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We'd told Helogoland ATC what we were doing. A few minutes later, we had a stressed call from ATC, saying that it had been reported that we'd dropped something from the plane. The Captain reminded ATC that we were towing, no you dropped something.... I looked at the video, the bird was still on the line, had we dropped something else! The plane flew fine, and everything was still there when we landed an hour later. Over active imagination of a ground observer!
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Re: Another example of the bad info pilots can be given

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Another task added to the load. Good call to proceed home. Many years (30) of C.Guard sar spent looking for reflections in the night. Usually in bad wx. LOL.
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Re: Another example of the bad info pilots can be given

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From the TSB.......

C-FHEN, a Westjet Encore De Havilland Aircraft of Canada DHC-8-402 (Dash 8 Q400) was
conducting flight WEN3108 from Terrace (CYXT), BC, to Vancouver International (CYVR), BC,
with 4 crewmembers and 30 passengers on board. After landing at CYVR, a passenger and cabin
crew member observed what was suspected to be a brake or wheel fire on the left main gear. The
captain requested aircraft rescue and firefighting (ARFF) personnel to attend. The ARFF team that
arrived found no evidence of fire and determined that the brake temperatures were within the
normal range. The passengers deplaned normally and the aircraft was returned to service.
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