Aircraft QoL

[kilocharliemike]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

[Ash Ketchum]

Rouge A319 (even though a big chunk of that fleet is A321). Some nice layovers at resorts if you have the seniority to hold it. Havana, Mexico City, St Lucia, Grenada, Costa Rica, Panama, etc

Yeah definitely need decent seniority to do those trips, otherwise it will be YQB turns on reserve.

Well actually with the new reserve RAPs senior guys on reserve don’t have cart blanche to get all the good flying. So now it’s a mix for everyone on reserve.

Hasn't been my experience.

[rudder]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

Course rights.

If you want to work at AC you should really review the ACPA CBA. It is convoluted but it will dictate your QOL for the rest of your career.

[Bingo Fuel]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

The collective agreement can be found here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 3jEK_FpOrK
Specifically the following sections:

Article 20.05 Course Rights
Article 20.17 New Hire Pilots

The new hire freeze referenced in this article is currently only a few years, but COVID has made that timing a little unpredictable going forward. As per the contract, it can be as long as four years.

[Blueontop]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

The collective agreement can be found here:
https://negotheque.travail.gc.ca/eng/ag ... 81003a.pdf

Specifically the following sections:

Article 20.05 Course Rights
Article 20.17 New Hire Pilots

The new hire freeze referenced in this article is currently only a few years, but COVID has made that timing a little unpredictable going forward. As per the contract, it can be as long as four years.

CBA effective 1989?

[Bingo Fuel]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

The collective agreement can be found here:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... jEK_FpOrK
Specifically the following sections:

Article 20.05 Course Rights
Article 20.17 New Hire Pilots

The new hire freeze referenced in this article is currently only a few years, but COVID has made that timing a little unpredictable going forward. As per the contract, it can be as long as four years.

CBA effective 1989?

My bad. Corrected.

[kilocharliemike]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

Course rights.

If you want to work at AC you should really review the ACPA CBA. It is convoluted but it will dictate your QOL for the rest of your career.

Yes I have went through it a bit, convoluted is a good word! Sometimes its better asking here! good CRM...

[rudder]

So if you want to sample, the variety of seats available at your base, how long are you committed to a type?

Course rights.

If you want to work at AC you should really review the ACPA CBA. It is convoluted but it will dictate your QOL for the rest of your career.

Yes I have went through it a bit, convoluted is a good word! Sometimes its better asking here! good CRM...

Readers Digest version - you get 6 course rights when you start (WB CA/WB FO/ NB CA/NB FO/ RP/ 1 free). Your initial position assignment counts as one CR used. You get an additional CR after 15 years. If you get displaced, you get the associated CR right back.

As mentioned, new hire freezes appear to be somewhat in flux. Released pilot seniority number (above which are no longer subject to new-hire freeze) is provided with each equipment bid.

[kilocharliemike]

Course rights.

If you want to work at AC you should really review the ACPA CBA. It is convoluted but it will dictate your QOL for the rest of your career.

Yes I have went through it a bit, convoluted is a good word! Sometimes its better asking here! good CRM...

Readers Digest version - you get 6 course rights when you start (WB CA/WB FO/ NB CA/NB FO/ RP/ 1 free). Your initial position assignment counts as one CR used. You get an additional CR after 15 years. If you get displaced, you get the associated CR right back.

As mentioned, new hire freezes appear to be somewhat in flux. Released pilot seniority number (above which are no longer subject to new-hire freeze) is provided with each equipment bid.

Does Reader's digest even still exist! Great summary thank you!!

[bob99]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

[kilocharliemike]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

That is what was awarded? or what was available? and I'm guessing 1st April class? interesting stuff

[CaptDukeNukem]

Yes I have went through it a bit, convoluted is a good word! Sometimes its better asking here! good CRM...

Readers Digest version - you get 6 course rights when you start (WB CA/WB FO/ NB CA/NB FO/ RP/ 1 free). Your initial position assignment counts as one CR used. You get an additional CR after 15 years. If you get displaced, you get the associated CR right back.

As mentioned, new hire freezes appear to be somewhat in flux. Released pilot seniority number (above which are no longer subject to new-hire freeze) is provided with each equipment bid.

Does Reader's digest even still exist! Great summary thank you!!

Sure does. Lol. Saw a late 2022 edition near the toilet at my parent’s place for Xmas dinner.

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Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

Doesnt look good for Western folks. How long does it take generally to hold a YVR base?

[joefo]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

Doesnt look good for Western folks. How long does it take generally to hold a YVR base?

37 and possibly 320 you could hold it in the next bid after training. Otherwise it’ll be a while. There’s a new hire course right you can use to get you to a different base on a different type if you didn’t get your preferred base/type in PIT.

[braaap Braap]

Not to drift the thread too much but how many WB CA positions are there at AC with the current 87 WB tails?

[Admiral Benson]

1018 WB Captain positions.

This is across all types including the freighter

[flying4dollars]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

Doesnt look good for Western folks. How long does it take generally to hold a YVR base?

I finished my line check end of December. YVR based by January 1 - A320. Currently there are new hire spots open in YVR on the 320, 737 and 787RP. They may not be offered in every pit course but one could potentially get based in YVR fairly quickly on the 320 or 737.

[bcflyer]

The 37 is the most reliable NB in the fleet. By far.

Yes but do you know why? The other NB aircraft have a good amount of self-monitoring of their systems and will tell you when something fails whether you’re using it at the time or not. The 737 just lets you figure it out yourself.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Clearly you are an airbus pilot and don’t know what you’re talking about. Enough said.

As someone who has flown both extensively the first poster is bang on. The Airbus will tell you what’s wrong, the 737 makes you figure it out for yourself.

[Crewbunk]

As someone who has flown both extensively the first poster is bang on. The Airbus will tell you what’s wrong, the 737 makes you figure it out for yourself.

Many many years ago, when I flew the 737-200, we used to analyze, assess and confirm what electrical failure we had by which fuel and/or hydraulic pumps were powered.

Imagine my delight moving to the A320. Not only does the ECAM tell you what’s wrong, a systems diagram displayed it, then it generates a checklist and finalizes it with a Status report even telling you a runway use calculation factor. I thought I was flying a spaceship it was so advanced.

I’m amazed, those flying Boeing’s latest 737 are still counting fuel pumps.

[rooster]

The 37 is the most reliable NB in the fleet. By far.

Yes but do you know why? The other NB aircraft have a good amount of self-monitoring of their systems and will tell you when something fails whether you’re using it at the time or not. The 737 just lets you figure it out yourself.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Clearly you are an airbus pilot and don’t know what you’re talking about. Enough said.

Vanguard what are you so angry about?? So many of your posts you sit there and sling mud at people. Seriously what is so wrong in your life that you hide behind an internet username and unload your misery. It's sad, for you.

[NotDirty!]

Yes but do you know why? The other NB aircraft have a good amount of self-monitoring of their systems and will tell you when something fails whether you’re using it at the time or not. The 737 just lets you figure it out yourself.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Clearly you are an airbus pilot and don’t know what you’re talking about. Enough said.

Vanguard what are you so angry about?? So many of your posts you sit there and sling mud at people. Seriously what is so wrong in your life that you hide behind an internet username and unload your misery. It's sad, for you.

AC has just gone downhill so far from when they flew the Vanguard… I’m sure it had a way better ECAM than the 320!

[dontcallmeshirley]

This conversation has gone downhill fast. Thank you to those who replied near the beginning of the thread. Anyone have any other useful information to share?

[Cough Syrup]

Bose headsets are the best.

[kilocharliemike]

So my request for the re surfacing of the PIT award guy has been filled! Thanks Bob99,

Now I need the “calls going out for xx class” guy to make an appearance like Punxsutawney Phil. Where you at bredren?

Sharing is caring…all bout QOL

[Vanguard]

Yes but do you know why? The other NB aircraft have a good amount of self-monitoring of their systems and will tell you when something fails whether you’re using it at the time or not. The 737 just lets you figure it out yourself.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Clearly you are an airbus pilot and don’t know what you’re talking about. Enough said.

Vanguard what are you so angry about?? So many of your posts you sit there and sling mud at people. Seriously what is so wrong in your life that you hide behind an internet username and unload your misery. It's sad, for you.

I only sling mud at people who deserve it and I call people out who don’t know what they’re talking about clearly.