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Looks like they finally pulled the trigger.

https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/ne ... ike-notice
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Dash.Trash wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 6:37 pm Looks like they finally pulled the trigger.

https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/ne ... ike-notice
Care to post the details, my ALPA number didn’t give access, no news outlets reporting yet either.
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Comes up with an ALPA link in a google search but the link doesn’t work.

I do have confirmation that notice has been served.
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cdnavater wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 6:55 pm
Dash.Trash wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 6:37 pm Looks like they finally pulled the trigger.

https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/ne ... ike-notice
Care to post the details, my ALPA number didn’t give access, no news outlets reporting yet either.
Release #: WJA 23.03 May 15, 2023 WestJet Pilots File 72-Hour Strike Notice Company Refuses to Recognize Pilots’ Needs

Calgary, AB—At 10:00 p.m., May 15, WestJet pilots, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA), issued a 72-hour strike notice to WestJet management and the government. This starts the clock on a 72-hour countdown to negotiate a fair and equitable contract, before the pilots can legally utilize all the options available to them under the Canada Labour Code. The union could have filed the notice over the weekend, but in a bid to keep the airline operating, agreed to extend negotiations. This sign of good faith was to allow enough time to review additional proposals put forth by both parties. While progress was made on most non-cost items, both sides have been unable to reach an agreement that will serve the best interests of all parties involved.   “After nine months of negotiating, management still fails to understand today’s labour market conditions, leading to a mass exodus of our pilots in search of better work opportunities, and more will follow if this agreement does not meet our pilots’ needs,” said Capt. Bernard Lewall, chair of the WestJet ALPA Master Executive Council (MEC). “Without the economic and job security improvements our pilots require, WestJet will be parking planes, as they will not have enough pilots to operate them or accomplish its own growth strategy.” As of 3:00 a.m. ET on May 19, the WestJet pilots plan to begin lawful job action, which could include grounding all aircraft and effectively shutting down operations. “Flight disruptions are never an ideal outcome, especially given the tremendous support our guests have shown us, and we want to continue being a major contributor to our company’s success by helping WestJet realize its growth strategy,” noted Lewall. “However, WestJet pilots will withdraw our services to secure a contract that will fix many of the airline’s labour problems and make it a career destination for pilots once again.” On average, a WestJet Group of Companies pilot leaves every 18 hours—mostly to fly for WestJet’s competitors. Negotiators continue to make proposals that will go a long way to rectifying WestJet’s pilot attraction and retention crisis by seeking better job security, industry-standard pay, and more flexible schedules to allow for a better work life balance—consistent with collective agreements that other ALPA-represented pilot groups are signing with their employers. ALPA’s more than 69,000 pilots stand behind the WestJet pilots as they ready themselves for possible legal job action. “We are hopeful today’s strike notice filing will provide management with the incentive to recognize just how dire the situation is and reach an agreement with us,” continued Lewall. “That’s why we will continue to make our negotiators available 24/7 during the remainder of the 72-hour strike notice period.

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Thanks!
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Company has locked the pilots out as of Fri @ 03:00 if nothing is negotiated further.
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Airbrake wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:31 pm Company has locked the pilots out as of Fri @ 03:00 if nothing is negotiated further.
That's the best way to avoid scabs! Nice of them to do that;)
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On a more serious note: do they have to bring all employees to their homebase during a lockout?

Or can they lock you out while in a hotel?
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digits_ wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:41 pm On a more serious note: do they have to bring all employees to their homebase during a lockout?

Or can they lock you out while in a hotel?
I was wondering the same thing. I would imagine they'll bring everyone to home base. If not, ALPA will probably help bring crews home. It's not just the pilots who would be left stranded. F/As would too and I don't think they'll allow that. Just my guess.

WestJet pilots, we're with you! 100% just like you would be with us, if we went on strike.
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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 10:20 pm
digits_ wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:41 pm On a more serious note: do they have to bring all employees to their homebase during a lockout?

Or can they lock you out while in a hotel?
I was wondering the same thing. I would imagine they'll bring everyone to home base. If not, ALPA will probably help bring crews home. It's not just the pilots who would be left stranded. F/As would too and I don't think they'll allow that. Just my guess.

WestJet pilots, we're with you! 100% just like you would be with us, if we went on strike.
For those stuck in Canada, Porter crews will gladly bring y'all home.

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digits_ wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:41 pm On a more serious note: do they have to bring all employees to their homebase during a lockout?

Or can they lock you out while in a hotel?
My guess is that anyone on the road the next couple days will be booking off to avoid just that. Additionally, I think the company will jig the schedule to make sure no aircraft are grounded out of station. Cheaper to cancel flights when they are in YYC than CUN for example.

That said, ALPA would certainly help get crews home.
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flyinhigh wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:57 am
digits_ wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:41 pm On a more serious note: do they have to bring all employees to their homebase during a lockout?

Or can they lock you out while in a hotel?
My guess is that anyone on the road the next couple days will be booking off to avoid just that. Additionally, I think the company will jig the schedule to make sure no aircraft are grounded out of station. Cheaper to cancel flights when they are in YYC than CUN for example.

That said, ALPA would certainly help get crews home.
Normally the company and the union agree to a protocol related to an imminent strike/lockout deadline.

Once again - normally the company either cancels the outbound flight or the parties agree that the aircraft will be repositioned back to a base even if that falls after the deadline.

It all depends on whether the parties are prepared to act ‘normal’ in the face of an imminent strike/lockout.
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rudder wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:06 am It all depends on whether the parties are prepared to act ‘normal’ in the face of an imminent strike/lockout.
This is going to be interesting then!
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digits_ wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:40 pm
Airbrake wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:31 pm Company has locked the pilots out as of Fri @ 03:00 if nothing is negotiated further.
That's the best way to avoid scabs! Nice of them to do that;)
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To clarify there won’t be any repositioning of aircraft after the deadline. ALPA issued a Strike QRH a couple weeks ago that deals with this situation. They have strike centres in all the bases that are coordinating. Expectation is once the deadline is reached we walk, wherever we are, and try to fly standby home. ALPA will pay for a ticket if needed.
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Canadaflyer46 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:26 am To clarify there won’t be any repositioning of aircraft after the deadline. ALPA issued a Strike QRH a couple weeks ago that deals with this situation. They have strike centres in all the bases that are coordinating. Expectation is once the deadline is reached we walk, wherever we are, and try to fly standby home. ALPA will pay for a ticket if needed.
Nice, good luck!
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Canadaflyer46 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:26 am Expectation is once the deadline is reached we walk, wherever we are, and try to fly standby home. ALPA will pay for a ticket if needed.
Is ALPA going to look after the whole crew, or just the flight deck folks ?
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goldeneagle wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:00 am
Canadaflyer46 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:26 am Expectation is once the deadline is reached we walk, wherever we are, and try to fly standby home. ALPA will pay for a ticket if needed.
Is ALPA going to look after the whole crew, or just the flight deck folks ?
Just the pilots. The company is responsible for everyone else.
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Strike centers, strike QRH, PIREP podcast, Social media, website, videos.
From an outsider I find the WS MEC and strike committee are doing an incredible job. We're with you guys!
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tango308 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:04 am Strike centers, strike QRH, PIREP podcast, Social media, website, videos.
From an outsider I find the WS MEC and strike committee are doing an incredible job. We're with you guys!
100%

New pod just released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G52j1vMZQk
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Hey! Who turned off the Accountant?
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Mach1 wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:24 pm Hey! Who turned off the Accountant?
Just another troll, in the long line of them, that has popped up on this site since the early days of the pandemic in 2020. There was that string of troll accounts from the wing suit guy... then the various "named" accounts, etc. Soon enough there will be a new flavour of the month troll account, especially if something controversial happens. Just wait until Air Canada pilots begin negotiating.
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Mach1 wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:24 pm Hey! Who turned off the Accountant?
It seems like he left with his tail between his legs.
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I know that Accountant was a troll. Probably a troll paid and employed by WJ or it's 3rd parties.

Just a parting shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uv1xN91Wek
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