New hire bids

[tango308]

What is the experience level of new hire lately ATPLs, 1000h, 750H?

[capt_Z]

non-ATPL's mostly. 1000 Hrs is average.

ATPL people would go Flair directly.

[canadian_aviator_4]

non-ATPL's mostly. 1000 Hrs is average.

ATPL people would go Flair directly.

Agreed. You would have to be insane to go to jazz with an atpl.

[BiuBiuBiu]

Dose anyone know what are the last two New bids? April 24th and May 15th?
Thanks!

[a_pilot]

2/3 ref check is good. They might call you this week.

What GS date the other guy got. Apparently July has last GS so if that's full. They start pooling guys.

I thought as per your previous post, June 5 would’ve been the last gs. Now you’re saying there’s one in July?
Would you keep pushing the “last gs of the year” back to Dec then?

If Jazz pushes GS to Dec sure. But July is the last GS for this year.

Good lord this is hilarious. Had to come out of avcanada retirement for this because someone brought this to my attention.

No jazz isn't stopping hiring after June.

YVR isn't shrinking, the backfill process is alive and well, and we're right at the baseline published in Jan.

Just because a base doesn't get a share of new hires doesn't mean the base is shrinking. In YVR's case there's a backlog of new hires in YYZ that get backfilled to YVR, and the new hires get those vacated spots in YYZ.

Average experiences still varies, but 750h isn't far off the middle mark. Very few ATPLs, but more than zero per class. Lots of instructors.

Stopping AC flow wouldn't assist in attrition, but rather do the exact opposite, as evidenced by the last year of labour migration changes.

Nothing going on pay negotiations as of today, but that change in a matter of hours, without notice.

I'm not here to be a jerk, but when I see people confidently spout nonsense on these forums, and tout their total time as if experience is the only metric, but wonder why they didn't get a particular job, it makes me wonder what the candidate's level of self-awareness is, and whether their ego needs some balancing.

Help those out on these forums by only commenting on topics you're intimately familiar with. Mentorship is the art of knowing when you don't know something, and enjoying the learning process alongside those you mentor.

[twa22]

I thought as per your previous post, June 5 would’ve been the last gs. Now you’re saying there’s one in July?
Would you keep pushing the “last gs of the year” back to Dec then?

If Jazz pushes GS to Dec sure. But July is the last GS for this year.

Good lord this is hilarious. Had to come out of avcanada retirement for this because someone brought this to my attention.

No jazz isn't stopping hiring after June.

YVR isn't shrinking, the backfill process is alive and well, and we're right at the baseline published in Jan.

Just because a base doesn't get a share of new hires doesn't mean the base is shrinking. In YVR's case there's a backlog of new hires in YYZ that get backfilled to YVR, and the new hires get those vacated spots in YYZ.

Average experiences still varies, but 750h isn't far off the middle mark. Very few ATPLs, but more than zero per class. Lots of instructors.

Stopping AC flow wouldn't assist in attrition, but rather do the exact opposite, as evidenced by the last year of labour migration changes.

Nothing going on pay negotiations as of today, but that change in a matter of hours, without notice.

I'm not here to be a jerk, but when I see people confidently spout nonsense on these forums, and tout their total time as if experience is the only metric, but wonder why they didn't get a particular job, it makes me wonder what the candidate's level of self-awareness is, and whether their ego needs some balancing.

Help those out on these forums by only commenting on topics you're intimately familiar with. Mentorship is the art of knowing when you don't know something, and enjoying the learning process alongside those you mentor.

Thanks for your post and others who've been also echoing what you said. Unfortunately, this capt_z appears to be a troll, like a few other users around here... Shame because some people will actually fall for these rumours unfortunately

[CaptDukeNukem]

I thought as per your previous post, June 5 would’ve been the last gs. Now you’re saying there’s one in July?
Would you keep pushing the “last gs of the year” back to Dec then?

If Jazz pushes GS to Dec sure. But July is the last GS for this year.

Good lord this is hilarious. Had to come out of avcanada retirement for this because someone brought this to my attention.

No jazz isn't stopping hiring after June.

YVR isn't shrinking, the backfill process is alive and well, and we're right at the baseline published in Jan.

Just because a base doesn't get a share of new hires doesn't mean the base is shrinking. In YVR's case there's a backlog of new hires in YYZ that get backfilled to YVR, and the new hires get those vacated spots in YYZ.

Average experiences still varies, but 750h isn't far off the middle mark. Very few ATPLs, but more than zero per class. Lots of instructors.

Stopping AC flow wouldn't assist in attrition, but rather do the exact opposite, as evidenced by the last year of labour migration changes.

Nothing going on pay negotiations as of today, but that change in a matter of hours, without notice.

I'm not here to be a jerk, but when I see people confidently spout nonsense on these forums, and tout their total time as if experience is the only metric, but wonder why they didn't get a particular job, it makes me wonder what the candidate's level of self-awareness is, and whether their ego needs some balancing.

Help those out on these forums by only commenting on topics you're intimately familiar with. Mentorship is the art of knowing when you don't know something, and enjoying the learning process alongside those you mentor.

Welcome back

Thanks for the good info! I agree. total time is only ONE metric of a candidates resume. I also worry about them thinking it’s the only thing that makes someone qualified for a specific position.

Cheers

[canidule]

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

[capt_Z]

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

[kiaszceski]

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

Heard some YYC/YYZ/YUL spots on all equipments, not a full class of 20 though.
Experience level in the GS unknown.

[hank998899]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

[canadian_aviator_4]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

I wonder how many make it to the end of training. I wouldn’t be surprised if they even went to encore. Heck, bearskin is paying their year 1 fos better than jazz.

[capt_Z]

One ATPL guy left Mid of the Training for Sunwing.

[capt_Z]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

Total 15 in class was decided by Jazz.

Next class also 15 and then done for 2023.

Training departed overloaded already.

[truedude]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

Total 15 in class was decided by Jazz.

Next class also 15 and then done for 2023.

Training departed overloaded already.

Wrong again!

[rudder]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

I wonder how many make it to the end of training. I wouldn’t be surprised if they even went to encore. Heck, bearskin is paying their year 1 fos better than jazz.

There are too many holes in the dike.

While the Flair pipeline is on hold, the Porter pipeline is going full tilt particularly for endorsed Jazz pilots. The YUL E-jet base announcement will likely cause high attrition rates from the YUL E175 roster.

Lots of opportunities for YYC pilots to switch employers and receive a raise without changing address.

AC and Jazz can control AC flow rates, but that is about it for managing attrition at Jazz.

Improve pay. Offer reliable and predictable career progression opportunities to AC. Or watch the resignation inbox continue to overflow.

[CaptDukeNukem]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

I wonder how many make it to the end of training. I wouldn’t be surprised if they even went to encore. Heck, bearskin is paying their year 1 fos better than jazz.

There are too many holes in the dike.

While the Flair pipeline is on hold, the Porter pipeline is going full tilt particularly for endorsed Jazz pilots. The YUL E-jet base announcement will likely cause high attrition rates from the YUL E175 roster.

Lots of opportunities for YYC pilots to switch employers and receive a raise without changing address.

AC and Jazz can control AC flow rates, but that is about it for managing attrition at Jazz.

Improve pay. Offer reliable and predictable career progression opportunities to AC. Or watch the resignation inbox continue to overflow.

Rumor I heard was 5 E1 YUL captains jump ship in a single day shortly after YUL was announced. Even if that rumor is half true, there’s no way jazz can continue training E1 pilots. It’s basically a farm team for porter

[hank998899]

You were PFOed… How the heck do you know that YYC is reducing? Stop spreading false info!!!

CRJ YUL 4 YYZ 4
Q400 YYC 4 YYZ 1
E175 YUL 2

15 total in class

Total 15 in class was decided by Jazz.

Next class also 15 and then done for 2023.

Training departed overloaded already.

Wrong again!

Stop spreading false info capt_z. There were 3 no shows…

[rudder]

Total 15 in class was decided by Jazz.

Next class also 15 and then done for 2023.

Training departed overloaded already.

Wrong again!

Stop spreading false info capt_z. There were 3 no shows…

3 no shows.

1 resigned during PIT course.

That is not a sign of a healthy recruitment process.

[truedude]

Wrong again!

Stop spreading false info capt_z. There were 3 no shows…

3 no shows.

1 resigned during PIT course.

That is not a sign of a healthy recruitment process.

What makes it worse is that they send out over 20 invites expecting no shows. When we can't even attract 700 hr pilots, we are screwed... but not to worry, I'm sure it will he fine.

[RoAF-Mig21]

Wrong again!

Stop spreading false info capt_z. There were 3 no shows…

3 no shows.

1 resigned during PIT course.

That is not a sign of a healthy recruitment process.

Does anyone know why this person resigned? Wasn't happy with base / aircraft, or got another job?

[rudder]

Stop spreading false info capt_z. There were 3 no shows…

3 no shows.

1 resigned during PIT course.

That is not a sign of a healthy recruitment process.

Does anyone know why this person resigned? Wasn't happy with base / aircraft, or got another job?

See above….. apparently quit for a better offer.

[goleafsgo]

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

That haven’t offered yvr because any open position has to go to a current Jazz pilot first. So if someone is yyz Q and wants yvr they get the open spot and a new hire gets their yyz spot

[truedude]

Anyone got info on the latest bid?

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

That haven’t offered yvr because any open position has to go to a current Jazz pilot first. So if someone is yyz Q and wants yvr they get the open spot and a new hire gets their yyz spot

The amount of western based Captains with Westjet interviews lined up is nuts! That PAL announcement motivated a lot of people to look elsewhere, many of whom were never planing to leave. Some who had been planing to go to AC.

[capt_Z]

No YVR positions again.

West is reducing guys.

That haven’t offered yvr because any open position has to go to a current Jazz pilot first. So if someone is yyz Q and wants yvr they get the open spot and a new hire gets their yyz spot

The amount of western based Captains with Westjet interviews lined up is nuts! That PAL announcement motivated a lot of people to look elsewhere, many of whom were never planing to leave. Some who had been planing to go to AC.

It's very clear within company how west is being reduce. Alot of people leaving regularly from YYC as well.

AC will soon announce 220's covering JAZZ routes out of west and 737 joining YVR.

JAZZ will be limited to here in East. That too I doubt after PAL deal and Porter expansion into Montreal.