Bases and equipment

[elonmusk]

There is a standing bid that you fill out and the company checks it before assignment

I respectfully suggest you wouldn't even be finished your training let alone in a position to displace someone else from their "assigned" type. I suspect you would have to show a little bit paitence and wait for the next equipment bit following your date of hire.

Patience not required, if you put a standing bid for a base change. It would be awarded to the pilot hired first and then their vacant position would be offered in the ground school.
Many times, pilots have been awarded their preferred base while still undergoing initial training.
That being said, if you were awarded any CRJ base other than YYZ and get YYZ while in your initial training, there might be some hotel and per diem issues, since all RJ training is in YYZ. I’ll have a look but if someone knows how new hire(initial training) works for that, feel free to chime in.

All new hires get hotels and perdiems regardless of base assignment or distance of their residence to the training facility.

[pilotdude1326]

How is the YVR base looking these days? Are there vacancies for the Q and the RJ available?

[truedude]

How is the YVR base looking these days? Are there vacancies for the Q and the RJ available?

They have been backfilling

[pilotdude1326]

How is the YVR base looking these days? Are there vacancies for the Q and the RJ available?

They have been backfilling

meaning...

[kiaszceski]

How is the YVR base looking these days? Are there vacancies for the Q and the RJ available?

They have been backfilling

meaning...

Don't come.

[canadian_aviator_4]

They have been backfilling

meaning...

Don't come.

+1

[cdnavater]

How is the YVR base looking these days? Are there vacancies for the Q and the RJ available?

They have been backfilling

meaning...

Backfilling is when a pilot from YVR moves on, they backfill from current Jazz pilots who have a standing bid for YVR. I would say a new hire has a pretty good shot at YVR before they are done initial training.

[capt_Z]

YVR base reducing. Air Canada will be getting 220's in and Jazz will be only focusing on East. And with PAL new deal East also will be competitive.

Think about going to JAZZ!

[CaptDukeNukem]

YVR base reducing. Air Canada will be getting 220's in and Jazz will be only focusing on East. And with PAL new deal East also will be competitive.

Think about going to JAZZ!

I think you’re my new favorite on here. Spread the propaganda!!

[daedalusx]

YVR base reducing. Air Canada will be getting 220's in and Jazz will be only focusing on East. And with PAL new deal East also will be competitive.

Think about going to JAZZ!

Do you even have a CPL ?

[canadian_aviator_4]

YVR base reducing. Air Canada will be getting 220's in and Jazz will be only focusing on East. And with PAL new deal East also will be competitive.

Think about going to JAZZ!

I think you’re my new favorite on here. Spread the propaganda!!

Stir the pot capt_z
+1

[rudder]

YVR base reducing. Air Canada will be getting 220's in and Jazz will be only focusing on East. And with PAL new deal East also will be competitive.

Think about going to JAZZ!

I think you’re my new favorite on here. Spread the propaganda!!

Not so much propaganda as fact.

The PAL announcement was real.

YVR fall schedule has CRJ900 replaced by B737 (not A220) on several US routings.

AC is well on its way to the Jazz ‘workaround’. Whatever leverage the JAZ MEC thought they had appears to be evaporating.

[RoAF-Mig21]

...Not so much propaganda as fact.

The PAL announcement was real.

YVR fall schedule has CRJ900 replaced by B737 (not A220) on several US routings.

AC is well on its way to the Jazz ‘workaround’. Whatever leverage the JAZ MEC thought they had appears to be evaporating...

Well the 80 fins still stands (for now) right? Will we be focusing on E175/CRJ900 flying out of YYZ/YUL?

[truedude]

YVR base reducing. Air Canada will be getting 220's in and Jazz will be only focusing on East. And with PAL new deal East also will be competitive.

Think about going to JAZZ!

I think you’re my new favorite on here. Spread the propaganda!!

Not so much propaganda as fact.

The PAL announcement was real.

YVR fall schedule has CRJ900 replaced by B737 (not A220) on several US routings.

AC is well on its way to the Jazz ‘workaround’. Whatever leverage the JAZ MEC thought they had appears to be evaporating.

Then we stand the line and let them burn it to the ground. They will lose too. And right now, it's a stalemate I can live with. YYC will evaporate to Westjet in the couple months, and Jazz will collapse. And I look forward to watching it happen.

But all these routes being replaced with mainline equipment, means there are other routes not being flown, as per the memo from AC about YYC flying. They are losing too, they are just working hard to make it appear they aren't. So let it burn I say.

[rudder]

But all these routes being replaced with mainline equipment, means there are other routes not being flown, as per the memo from AC about YYC flying. They are losing too, they are just working hard to make it appear they aren't. So let it burn I say.

AC will be fine. Jazz? Not so much.

AC has lots of planes coming and hundreds and hundreds of new-hires to be added. Anybody hired by AC right now will have an amazing career. The CBA will only get better.

All of the chickens are coming home to roost. And if anybody thought that AC would just sit idle without a contingency plan for Express flying they guessed wrong.

[kiaszceski]

But all these routes being replaced with mainline equipment, means there are other routes not being flown, as per the memo from AC about YYC flying. They are losing too, they are just working hard to make it appear they aren't. So let it burn I say.

AC will be fine. Jazz? Not so much.

AC has lots of planes coming and hundreds and hundreds of new-hires to be added. Anybody hired by AC right now will have an amazing career. The CBA will only get better.

All of the chickens are coming home to roost. And if anybody thought that AC would just sit idle without a contingency plan for Express flying they guessed wrong.

Maybe that's what the MEC thought.

[truedude]

But all these routes being replaced with mainline equipment, means there are other routes not being flown, as per the memo from AC about YYC flying. They are losing too, they are just working hard to make it appear they aren't. So let it burn I say.

AC will be fine. Jazz? Not so much.

AC has lots of planes coming and hundreds and hundreds of new-hires to be added. Anybody hired by AC right now will have an amazing career. The CBA will only get better.

All of the chickens are coming home to roost. And if anybody thought that AC would just sit idle without a contingency plan for Express flying they guessed wrong.

Then we let it burn! And PAL so far is nothing but a paper exercise. They will need pilots, and it will be challenged from a legal perspective. It is far from a done deal. And we are about to lose so many pilots in such a short time period, there is zero contingency plan that will be able to cope. AC will end up doing serious harm to itself.

But if the morons at AC want to go down this road, so be it. I will enjoy watching it self destruct. But the one thing we do not do is cave.

[THT]

Jazz is like a gently sinking ship...
this is my feeling...

[PostmasterGeneral]

But all these routes being replaced with mainline equipment, means there are other routes not being flown, as per the memo from AC about YYC flying. They are losing too, they are just working hard to make it appear they aren't. So let it burn I say.

AC will be fine. Jazz? Not so much.

AC has lots of planes coming and hundreds and hundreds of new-hires to be added. Anybody hired by AC right now will have an amazing career. The CBA will only get better.

All of the chickens are coming home to roost. And if anybody thought that AC would just sit idle without a contingency plan for Express flying they guessed wrong.

Then we let it burn! And PAL so far is nothing but a paper exercise. They will need pilots, and it will be challenged from a legal perspective. It is far from a done deal. And we are about to lose so many pilots in such a short time period, there is zero contingency plan that will be able to cope. AC will end up doing serious harm to itself.

But if the morons at AC want to go down this road, so be it. I will enjoy watching it self destruct. But the one thing we do not do is cave.

I don’t see how this is AC self destructing. They’re consolidating routes onto larger aircraft, and pulling out of markets that have low yields (YYC, YEG) in favour of other routes.

[truedude]

AC will be fine. Jazz? Not so much.

AC has lots of planes coming and hundreds and hundreds of new-hires to be added. Anybody hired by AC right now will have an amazing career. The CBA will only get better.

All of the chickens are coming home to roost. And if anybody thought that AC would just sit idle without a contingency plan for Express flying they guessed wrong.

Then we let it burn! And PAL so far is nothing but a paper exercise. They will need pilots, and it will be challenged from a legal perspective. It is far from a done deal. And we are about to lose so many pilots in such a short time period, there is zero contingency plan that will be able to cope. AC will end up doing serious harm to itself.

But if the morons at AC want to go down this road, so be it. I will enjoy watching it self destruct. But the one thing we do not do is cave.

I don’t see how this is AC self destructing. They’re consolidating routes onto larger aircraft, and pulling out of markets that have low yields (YYC, YEG) in favour of other routes.

They arent doing it by choice. They are doing it because they don't have the resources to do it all. They are also flying large airplanes on routes that are 100% not cost effective to do fly them on.

Why is the Q going from YVR to YQR next month? I thought pulling out of YYC meant they would upgauge to a 220 out of YVR.

This is Air Canada attempting to make it look like it is all going to plan, when in fact it isn't. It is why for earning call after earning call they refused to admit there was any issue with regional feed or hiring at Jazz. Now suddenly they are about to violate the CPA for a "Pilot Situation" which apprently they didn't know about during the last earnings call....

This is all grade "A" BS, and it needs to be seen as such.

[rudder]

AC will be fine. Jazz? Not so much.

AC has lots of planes coming and hundreds and hundreds of new-hires to be added. Anybody hired by AC right now will have an amazing career. The CBA will only get better.

All of the chickens are coming home to roost. And if anybody thought that AC would just sit idle without a contingency plan for Express flying they guessed wrong.

Then we let it burn! And PAL so far is nothing but a paper exercise. They will need pilots, and it will be challenged from a legal perspective. It is far from a done deal. And we are about to lose so many pilots in such a short time period, there is zero contingency plan that will be able to cope. AC will end up doing serious harm to itself.

But if the morons at AC want to go down this road, so be it. I will enjoy watching it self destruct. But the one thing we do not do is cave.

I don’t see how this is AC self destructing. They’re consolidating routes onto larger aircraft, and pulling out of markets that have low yields (YYC, YEG) in favour of other routes.

AC has a plan.

Adding NB aircraft. Hiring accordingly. Expanding codeshare with UA to ensure trans border lift. Now seeking out additional domestic CPA partners.

I had suggested previously that 80 fins at Jazz was coming sooner rather than later. Everything we see confirms it is sooner.

Perhaps 80 find is all that Jazz wants as well. Wonder how that affects bargaining leverage?

[truedude]

Then we let it burn! And PAL so far is nothing but a paper exercise. They will need pilots, and it will be challenged from a legal perspective. It is far from a done deal. And we are about to lose so many pilots in such a short time period, there is zero contingency plan that will be able to cope. AC will end up doing serious harm to itself.

But if the morons at AC want to go down this road, so be it. I will enjoy watching it self destruct. But the one thing we do not do is cave.

I don’t see how this is AC self destructing. They’re consolidating routes onto larger aircraft, and pulling out of markets that have low yields (YYC, YEG) in favour of other routes.

AC has a plan.

Adding NB aircraft. Hiring accordingly. Expanding codeshare with UA to ensure trans border lift. Now seeking out additional domestic CPA partners.

I had suggested previously that 80 fins at Jazz was coming sooner rather than later. Everything we see confirms it is sooner.

Perhaps 80 find is all that Jazz wants as well. Wonder how that affects bargaining leverage?

They won't be able to staff 80 fins either if something doesn't change. And the PAL deal is a violation of the CPA. ALPA will pursue it.

And PAL needs to staff their planes, and that isn't going to be easier.

We are being bullied, and where as I have no doubt we will be smaller, and the 220 will replace some RJ flying, there is still a requirement for us.

And all they have done with the PAL announcement is ensure that pilots leave even faster now. Those 6 planes, if they ever take flight, won't cover what we will lose on the next 6 months.

Air Canada plays dirty, that isn't a surprise. Doesn't mean this is going according to their plan either.

[rudder]

I don’t see how this is AC self destructing. They’re consolidating routes onto larger aircraft, and pulling out of markets that have low yields (YYC, YEG) in favour of other routes.

AC has a plan.

Adding NB aircraft. Hiring accordingly. Expanding codeshare with UA to ensure trans border lift. Now seeking out additional domestic CPA partners.

I had suggested previously that 80 fins at Jazz was coming sooner rather than later. Everything we see confirms it is sooner.

Perhaps 80 find is all that Jazz wants as well. Wonder how that affects bargaining leverage?

They won't be able to staff 80 fins either if something doesn't change. And the PAL deal is a violation of the CPA. ALPA will pursue it.

And PAL needs to staff their planes, and that isn't going to be easier.

We are being bullied, and where as I have no doubt we will be smaller, and the 220 will replace some RJ flying, there is still a requirement for us.

And all they have done with the PAL announcement is ensure that pilots leave even faster now. Those 6 planes, if they ever take flight, won't cover what we will lose on the next 6 months.

Air Canada plays dirty, that isn't a surprise. Doesn't mean this is going according to their plan either.

Perhaps the Jazz pilots are being bullied. But if you think that grievances and MEC bulletins are going to fix it you are probably mistaken.

The only vote that is currently available to cast is with your feet. Shortfalls in overtime subscription or training volunteers would barely be noticed considering the overall staffing situation. Attrition, retention, and recruitment remain challenging with the current corporate strategy being to maintain status quo on WAWCON.

[a2btrail]

AC has a plan.

Adding NB aircraft. Hiring accordingly. Expanding codeshare with UA to ensure trans border lift. Now seeking out additional domestic CPA partners.

I had suggested previously that 80 fins at Jazz was coming sooner rather than later. Everything we see confirms it is sooner.

Perhaps 80 find is all that Jazz wants as well. Wonder how that affects bargaining leverage?

They won't be able to staff 80 fins either if something doesn't change. And the PAL deal is a violation of the CPA. ALPA will pursue it.

And PAL needs to staff their planes, and that isn't going to be easier.

We are being bullied, and where as I have no doubt we will be smaller, and the 220 will replace some RJ flying, there is still a requirement for us.

And all they have done with the PAL announcement is ensure that pilots leave even faster now. Those 6 planes, if they ever take flight, won't cover what we will lose on the next 6 months.

Air Canada plays dirty, that isn't a surprise. Doesn't mean this is going according to their plan either.

Perhaps the Jazz pilots are being bullied. But if you think that grievances and MEC bulletins are going to fix it you are probably mistaken.

The only vote that is currently available to cast is with your feet. Shortfalls in overtime subscription or training volunteers would barely be noticed considering the overall staffing situation. Attrition, retention, and recruitment remain challenging with the current corporate strategy being to maintain status quo on WAWCON.

Rudder are you planning on staying at Jazz or looking at other options?

[canadian_aviator_4]

AC has a plan.

Adding NB aircraft. Hiring accordingly. Expanding codeshare with UA to ensure trans border lift. Now seeking out additional domestic CPA partners.

I had suggested previously that 80 fins at Jazz was coming sooner rather than later. Everything we see confirms it is sooner.

Perhaps 80 find is all that Jazz wants as well. Wonder how that affects bargaining leverage?

They won't be able to staff 80 fins either if something doesn't change. And the PAL deal is a violation of the CPA. ALPA will pursue it.

And PAL needs to staff their planes, and that isn't going to be easier.

We are being bullied, and where as I have no doubt we will be smaller, and the 220 will replace some RJ flying, there is still a requirement for us.

And all they have done with the PAL announcement is ensure that pilots leave even faster now. Those 6 planes, if they ever take flight, won't cover what we will lose on the next 6 months.

Air Canada plays dirty, that isn't a surprise. Doesn't mean this is going according to their plan either.

Perhaps the Jazz pilots are being bullied. But if you think that grievances and MEC bulletins are going to fix it you are probably mistaken.

The only vote that is currently available to cast is with your feet. Shortfalls in overtime subscription or training volunteers would barely be noticed considering the overall staffing situation. Attrition, retention, and recruitment remain challenging with the current corporate strategy being to maintain status quo on WAWCON.

The voting with your feet is the only option. I left and never felt better. No more empty promises and abuse from Air Canada, doing as they please with Jazz. Nothing is going to improve here, and if they union tries to, sky regional 2.0 will be expanded to a permanent CPA. This is what PAL is hoping for and AC has a repeated history of doing.