2023 Professional Pilot Magazine Salary Survey

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2023 Professional Pilot Magazine Salary Survey

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Here's the main page from the survey, was surprised to see the salaries weren't higher, but these are US funds and their income goes a lot further while facing less taxation. Not sure what the latest climate is getting into the corporate world on a green card either. Scroll down to a later post for turboprops and rotary, apologies for leaving it out.
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This thread is about to go on fire lol
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CL-Skadoo! wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:26 pm Here's the main page from the survey, was surprised to see the salaries weren't higher, but these are US funds and their income goes a lot further while facing less taxation. Not sure what the latest climate is getting into the corporate world on a green card either.

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We are a long way behind the US on salaries
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We are also a long way behind in mass shootings and personal bankruptcies due to medical debt...
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Pratt X 3 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:23 pm We are also a long way behind in mass shootings and personal bankruptcies due to medical debt...
It’s ok though because our dollar is worth 30% less, our housing is generally more expensive everywhere in the country, we are taxed at a higher rate in every bracket and we pay into a carbon tax scheme to help offset our selfish profession. But hey, every chimp gets free healthcare, waits years for surgical appointments and the government is, quitE literally, coming for our guns at taxpayer indebted expense that future generations are going to have to pay for. We won’t talk about how the vast majority of our indigenous communities are living in 3rd world conditions, how tilted to the east our election system is and how we’re letting other countries influence our political leaders. But hey, you just keep acting like were better than them somehow, while making less than them financially.
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canfly18 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:58 pm We are a long way behind the US on salaries
Interesting, taking our cost of living out of the picture and accepting our cash at par, I'm sitting between the average to high for my type. Definitely not something to brag about, but not as bad as I expected either.
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Apologies for leaving the turboprops and rotary out of my original post
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Those numbers are much lower than I would have thought.
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Those salaries look a little lean, compared to what I am hearing from some of the instructors at FlightSafety in Teterboro. Falcon 2000LXS and 7X drivers are around regularly getting $300-350K plus $50K signing bonuses.
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NovaBoy wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:21 pm Those salaries look a little lean, compared to what I am hearing from some of the instructors at FlightSafety in Teterboro. Falcon 2000LXS and 7X drivers are around regularly getting $300-350K plus $50K signing bonuses.
That’s exactly what I am hearing too. Are people inflating their salaries to compare to the airlines, are the high salary people not participating in surveys? What gives?
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Minimums wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:35 am
Pratt X 3 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:23 pm We are also a long way behind in mass shootings and personal bankruptcies due to medical debt...
It’s ok though because our dollar is worth 30% less, our housing is generally more expensive everywhere in the country, we are taxed at a higher rate in every bracket and we pay into a carbon tax scheme to help offset our selfish profession. But hey, every chimp gets free healthcare, waits years for surgical appointments and the government is, quitE literally, coming for our guns at taxpayer indebted expense that future generations are going to have to pay for. We won’t talk about how the vast majority of our indigenous communities are living in 3rd world conditions, how tilted to the east our election system is and how we’re letting other countries influence our political leaders. But hey, you just keep acting like were better than them somehow, while making less than them financially.
I was going to respond something similar, but Minimums wrote such a perfect response all I can add is- NAILED IT!
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We must be talking to the same instructor because I am hearing the same 🤣
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Checkspeed wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:50 pm
Minimums wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:35 am
Pratt X 3 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:23 pm We are also a long way behind in mass shootings and personal bankruptcies due to medical debt...
It’s ok though because our dollar is worth 30% less, our housing is generally more expensive everywhere in the country, we are taxed at a higher rate in every bracket and we pay into a carbon tax scheme to help offset our selfish profession. But hey, every chimp gets free healthcare, waits years for surgical appointments and the government is, quitE literally, coming for our guns at taxpayer indebted expense that future generations are going to have to pay for. We won’t talk about how the vast majority of our indigenous communities are living in 3rd world conditions, how tilted to the east our election system is and how we’re letting other countries influence our political leaders. But hey, you just keep acting like were better than them somehow, while making less than them financially.
I was going to respond something similar, but Minimums wrote such a perfect response all I can add is- NAILED IT!
Why bring politics into this? I was merely pointing out 2 of the many factors that would preclude me from exposing both myself and my family to in exchange for more money. If that makes me "act" like I'm better than them, so be it. But I'd rather sell my soul to the devil I know than the one that promises to "fix" all the issues you made above in exchange for money. But since you want to make this political, isn't it funny how the issues you used as an example are almost the same talking points that can be heard south of the border but slightly changed to fit their narrative? Really weird how politicians, no matter where they are or whatever branding they chose to use, always want to promote the fear of getting robbed by some "evil" as they pick your pockets while you are distracted.

Anyways, back to the actual topic at hand, the Salary Survey. Why would a magazine, that relies on advertiser revenue whose targeted clientele is the uber-rich, suppress the actual higher values of salary? Why would they want to bite the hand that feeds them and publish the actual numbers so the servants of the uber-rich can have proof that they are being underpaid and demand a bigger piece of the pie? Weird.
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It’s the large private flight departments that are paying the big money in the US, same in Canada. For everyone of them there is a lot of charter, and managed companies that are not paying all that well. You only hear about the big money ones. I would guess the big paying private ones do not participate in those salary surveys.
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I'm above the "high" salary (in CAD $) for the type of aircraft I fly and would not move to the USA to get their USD salary.

As alluded by others, there is way more then the salary that counts in life.
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Jet Jockey wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:10 pm I'm above the "high" salary (in CAD $) for the type of aircraft I fly and would not move to the USA to get their USD salary.

As alluded by others, there is way more then the salary that counts in life.

I’m in the same boat.
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Pratt X 3 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:23 pm We are also a long way behind in mass shootings and personal bankruptcies due to medical debt...
Pretty sure it was you who brought up politics with this post.
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If you think those things are political, you have fallen for the trick and not kept your eye on what the magician is distracting you from seeing. Or rather, who they don't want you to see as your pocket is picked.
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Same here, we are way above the HIGH number....there is something fishy about these stats.
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