It seems as though the PIC is left out of the loop a lot of times when trying to commute on Jazz. Often "load restricted" for YEG-YVR or YYC-YVR.leaving jumpseatwrs stranded in the boarding lounge.
As per the last ALPA fastread:
JUMPSEAT REMINDERS: MAKE THE WALK, USE ALPA FLIGHT FINDER
The busy summer travel season is well underway, and with that comes high demand for the jumpseat. On Friday leading into the July 4 weekend, TSA screened its highest-ever number of passengers in a single day. Remember to “Make the Walk” to ensure that no pilot needing a jumpseat is left behind at the gate.
We're all in this together. Remember: the PIC controls the jumpseat, NOT the gate agents.
I just want to point out something else, as we are all in this together making the walk could include as a commuter letting the crew know there is another pilot at the gate what can’t occupy the FA jump but maybe you can.
On a recent flight out of somewhere East of Vancouver(lol), location not important but on a very full mainline flight with two jump seats in the flight deck, the flight left with two AC pilots up front and no one sitting in the available FA Jumpseat.
As a Jazz pilot I cannot but AC pilots can, this commuter knows this as we had the discussion before boarding in which I said to him I can’t sit in your FA Jumpseat.
That flight left and I waited for a few more hours to get home, difference of having supper with my wife versus getting home to say good night, which also could have easily turned into an overnight because the this flight had many mis connects which ultimately end up on later flights.
I always volunteer for the jump seat in order to accommodate fellow commuters that can't access the jumpseat, however... the issue here is when you give up your seat for a fellow co-worker and the airline puts a passenger on, because they oversold that flight. That's the problem... I make a point to tell the captain, I would give up my seat for a commuter, but not for a paying passenger. I know it sounds bad, but the point of me sitting up front where it's not as comfortable and it crowds the crews as well, is to help out coworkers.
I make a to my colleague that we should always take commuters, especially on the last flight out of YYZ to YUL (that I find myself often doing). I used the jumpseat many times when I commuted by air and I was very thankful for the pilots to have me there, so I can go to/from work.
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:11 am
I always volunteer for the jump seat in order to accommodate fellow commuters that can't access the jumpseat, however... the issue here is when you give up your seat for a fellow co-worker and the airline puts a passenger on, because they oversold that flight. That's the problem... I make a point to tell the captain, I would give up my seat for a commuter, but not for a paying passenger. I know it sounds bad, but the point of me sitting up front where it's not as comfortable and it crowds the crews as well, is to help out coworkers.
I make a to my colleague that we should always take commuters, especially on the last flight out of YYZ to YUL (that I find myself often doing). I used the jumpseat many times when I commuted by air and I was very thankful for the pilots to have me there, so I can go to/from work.
When I was at jazz and needing the Jump to get home, I could usually tell which pilots were commuting and would strike up a general convo. Getting home usually came up. the AC folks would usually offer to sit in the extra FA jump. ONLY ONCE, did he say he didn’t really want to, but insisted if it was a make or break commute he would do it. (It wasn’t, and the next flight was looking fairly good). He also had a long day and I totally understood.
