New hire bids

[cdnavater]

I have a GS date in September with Jazz. Not super picky on equipment but am really hoping to get YYZ base. If not awarded that base on my initial bid is it likely I’d be able to prior to training being completed?

I would say odds of not getting your preferred base before you are done your training is slim.
The way it works, you submit a standing bid for you base, before the new hire positions are announced, about three or four days before they review the standing bids and award them before new hires are offered spots.
As long as you have the standing bid set you should be good, only things that would prevent this is if there is no YYZ positions or there are more senior pilots also wanting that.

[CarlG2000]

I have a GS date in September with Jazz. Not super picky on equipment but am really hoping to get YYZ base. If not awarded that base on my initial bid is it likely I’d be able to prior to training being completed?

I would say odds of not getting your preferred base before you are done your training is slim.
The way it works, you submit a standing bid for you base, before the new hire positions are announced, about three or four days before they review the standing bids and award them before new hires are offered spots.
As long as you have the standing bid set you should be good, only things that would prevent this is if there is no YYZ positions or there are more senior pilots also wanting that.

Thanks for the response it’s greatly appreciated. Would you say that I’d be smarter to bid the equipment I’d prefer even if it’s not at the base I want in this case? For example bidding YUL EMB rather than YYZ q400 figuring I’d likely get YYZ sooner than later with the standing bid?

[canadian_aviator_4]

I would think yyz would be the easiest base to get given the fact that’s it’s impossible to live off what jazz pay’s in Toronto. But then again every bid is different for new hires.

[cdnavater]

I have a GS date in September with Jazz. Not super picky on equipment but am really hoping to get YYZ base. If not awarded that base on my initial bid is it likely I’d be able to prior to training being completed?

I would say odds of not getting your preferred base before you are done your training is slim.
The way it works, you submit a standing bid for you base, before the new hire positions are announced, about three or four days before they review the standing bids and award them before new hires are offered spots.
As long as you have the standing bid set you should be good, only things that would prevent this is if there is no YYZ positions or there are more senior pilots also wanting that.

Thanks for the response it’s greatly appreciated. Would you say that I’d be smarter to bid the equipment I’d prefer even if it’s not at the base I want in this case? For example bidding YUL EMB rather than YYZ q400 figuring I’d likely get YYZ sooner than later with the standing bid?

Yes, I would say bid the equipment you want, YYZ will come.

[QKZXKV]

I have a GS date in September with Jazz. Not super picky on equipment but am really hoping to get YYZ base. If not awarded that base on my initial bid is it likely I’d be able to prior to training being completed?

I would say odds of not getting your preferred base before you are done your training is slim.
The way it works, you submit a standing bid for you base, before the new hire positions are announced, about three or four days before they review the standing bids and award them before new hires are offered spots.
As long as you have the standing bid set you should be good, only things that would prevent this is if there is no YYZ positions or there are more senior pilots also wanting that.

Thanks for the response it’s greatly appreciated. Would you say that I’d be smarter to bid the equipment I’d prefer even if it’s not at the base I want in this case? For example bidding YUL EMB rather than YYZ q400 figuring I’d likely get YYZ sooner than later with the standing bid?

I always advise taking preferred base over equipment. That way you're guaranteed right away that you'll never be a RSV commuter. ALL aircraft are the same pay...

[KenoraPilot]

I have a GS date in September with Jazz. Not super picky on equipment but am really hoping to get YYZ base. If not awarded that base on my initial bid is it likely I’d be able to prior to training being completed?

I would say odds of not getting your preferred base before you are done your training is slim.
The way it works, you submit a standing bid for you base, before the new hire positions are announced, about three or four days before they review the standing bids and award them before new hires are offered spots.
As long as you have the standing bid set you should be good, only things that would prevent this is if there is no YYZ positions or there are more senior pilots also wanting that.

Thanks for the response it’s greatly appreciated. Would you say that I’d be smarter to bid the equipment I’d prefer even if it’s not at the base I want in this case? For example bidding YUL EMB rather than YYZ q400 figuring I’d likely get YYZ sooner than later with the standing bid?

I would 100% advise base over type. Fortunately YYZ has all types, however, that can change. It’s way better to like where you live than like what you fly, remember it’s just a job still….real life is everything outside of work. Commuting is awful, like really awful! Just my 2cents

[BlackHawkOne]

Anyone knows what are the bids for the last class ?

[capt_Z]

Anyone knows what are the bids for the last class ?

YES

[BlackHawkOne]

Anyone knows what are the bids for the last class ?

YES

So ? LOL

[capt_Z]

Anyone knows what are the bids for the last class ?

YES

So ? LOL

LOL

[truedude]

YES

So ? LOL

LOL

I don't know the exact breakdown, but the majority of the class is heading west, YYC and YVR.

[CaptDukeNukem]

So ? LOL

LOL

I don't know the exact breakdown, but the majority of the class is heading west, YYC and YVR.

Still boggles my mind how someone can accept a position without knowing what they will be flying or where they will live. Not just jazz but AC too.

I understand most options are available, but maybe not to everyone, especially if you draw last.

[truedude]

LOL

I don't know the exact breakdown, but the majority of the class is heading west, YYC and YVR.

Still boggles my mind how someone can accept a position without knowing what they will be flying or where they will live. Not just jazz but AC too.

I understand most options are available, but maybe not to everyone, especially if you draw last.

It is one of those "it has always been like that." From a bygone time when families would move across the country.

[CaptDukeNukem]

I don't know the exact breakdown, but the majority of the class is heading west, YYC and YVR.

Still boggles my mind how someone can accept a position without knowing what they will be flying or where they will live. Not just jazz but AC too.

I understand most options are available, but maybe not to everyone, especially if you draw last.

It is one of those "it has always been like that." From a bygone time when families would move across the country.

Yes you’re right. It’s time to get rid of this practice also.

Bob Dylan said it best :

“ The Times They Are A-Changin'”

[Tbayer2021]

LOL

I don't know the exact breakdown, but the majority of the class is heading west, YYC and YVR.

Still boggles my mind how someone can accept a position without knowing what they will be flying or where they will live. Not just jazz but AC too.

I understand most options are available, but maybe not to everyone, especially if you draw last.

Didn't you do that at one point? I was under the impression that you moved from Jazz to Porter.

[CaptDukeNukem]

I don't know the exact breakdown, but the majority of the class is heading west, YYC and YVR.

Still boggles my mind how someone can accept a position without knowing what they will be flying or where they will live. Not just jazz but AC too.

I understand most options are available, but maybe not to everyone, especially if you draw last.

Didn't you do that at one point? I was under the impression that you moved from Jazz to Porter.

Ha… I would have never chosen to work at jazz,

I got moved to jazz. End of story

[Tbayer2021]

Still boggles my mind how someone can accept a position without knowing what they will be flying or where they will live. Not just jazz but AC too.

I understand most options are available, but maybe not to everyone, especially if you draw last.

Didn't you do that at one point? I was under the impression that you moved from Jazz to Porter.

Ha… I would have never chosen to work at jazz,

I got moved to jazz. End of story

Ah so one of the competitors created to undercut jazz, got it! Definitely much better.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Didn't you do that at one point? I was under the impression that you moved from Jazz to Porter.

Ha… I would have never chosen to work at jazz,

I got moved to jazz. End of story

Ah so one of the competitors created to undercut jazz, got it! Definitely much better.

You’re questioning my life choices? Lol.

My point from my post is that it’s absolutely insane to not know where you are gonna be based on day 1 of your job, never mind what aircraft type you’ll be flying.

Things happen for a reason; some people call it fate.

Jazz was by far the worst airline I’ve EVER worked for. And to preface that statement : this is my opinion. Good riddance.

Why don’t you ask your union rep how many have left for porter, or flair, or WJ? Never mind the reduced 60% peace’ing out to fly big metal at big red.

I see the numbers. Jazz is a training facility to all other airlines.

[Tbayer2021]

Ha… I would have never chosen to work at jazz,

I got moved to jazz. End of story

Ah so one of the competitors created to undercut jazz, got it! Definitely much better.

You’re questioning my life choices? Lol.

My point from my post is that it’s absolutely insane to not know where you are gonna be based on day 1 of your job, never mind what aircraft type you’ll be flying.

Things happen for a reason; some people call it fate.

Jazz was by far the worst airline I’ve EVER worked for. And to preface that statement : this is my opinion. Good riddance.

Why don’t you ask your union rep how many have left for porter, or flair, or WJ? Never mind the reduced 60% peace’ing out to fly big metal at big red.

I see the numbers. Jazz is a training facility to all other airlines.

I don't work for Jazz and never have in any capacity. By the time I was experienced enough to get a job at any of the regionals, they paid way too little, including sky. So I stayed away from them all.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Ah so one of the competitors created to undercut jazz, got it! Definitely much better.

You’re questioning my life choices? Lol.

My point from my post is that it’s absolutely insane to not know where you are gonna be based on day 1 of your job, never mind what aircraft type you’ll be flying.

Things happen for a reason; some people call it fate.

Jazz was by far the worst airline I’ve EVER worked for. And to preface that statement : this is my opinion. Good riddance.

Why don’t you ask your union rep how many have left for porter, or flair, or WJ? Never mind the reduced 60% peace’ing out to fly big metal at big red.

I see the numbers. Jazz is a training facility to all other airlines.

I don't work for Jazz and never have in any capacity. By the time I was experienced enough to get a job at any of the regionals, they paid way too little, including sky. So I stayed away from them all.

Roger. Copy. Check.

My apologies. I assumed.

Owe you a beer

[cdnavater]

Ha… I would have never chosen to work at jazz,

I got moved to jazz. End of story

Ah so one of the competitors created to undercut jazz, got it! Definitely much better.

You’re questioning my life choices? Lol.

My point from my post is that it’s absolutely insane to not know where you are gonna be based on day 1 of your job, never mind what aircraft type you’ll be flying.

Things happen for a reason; some people call it fate.

Jazz was by far the worst airline I’ve EVER worked for. And to preface that statement : this is my opinion. Good riddance.

Why don’t you ask your union rep how many have left for porter, or flair, or WJ? Never mind the reduced 60% peace’ing out to fly big metal at big red.

I see the numbers. Jazz is a training facility to all other airlines.

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you don’t see the irony!
Jazz WAS hands down the best regional job most everywhere, the creation of SR and the GGN doing our work after AC pilots gave away the scope is why it became the “worst airline you ever worked for”
So your choice to undercut us and then eventually work for us is a little bitter sweet irony!

[CaptDukeNukem]

Ah so one of the competitors created to undercut jazz, got it! Definitely much better.

You’re questioning my life choices? Lol.

My point from my post is that it’s absolutely insane to not know where you are gonna be based on day 1 of your job, never mind what aircraft type you’ll be flying.

Things happen for a reason; some people call it fate.

Jazz was by far the worst airline I’ve EVER worked for. And to preface that statement : this is my opinion. Good riddance.

Why don’t you ask your union rep how many have left for porter, or flair, or WJ? Never mind the reduced 60% peace’ing out to fly big metal at big red.

I see the numbers. Jazz is a training facility to all other airlines.

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you don’t see the irony!
Jazz WAS hands down the best regional job most everywhere, the creation of SR and the GGN doing our work after AC pilots gave away the scope is why it became the “worst airline you ever worked for”
So your choice to undercut us and then eventually work for us is a little bitter sweet irony!

Says you… the pre 2015 hired pilot at jazz. Don’t give me that crap dude. We all end up where we supposed to be. You’re making good bucks at jazz. Ride out your career, you’ll be fine. For me, it wasn’t, and it sucked.

Edit: also you guys are the one who managed to wrangle the “exclusive AC express carrier” for a ridiculously long contract.
Well done, how’s that working out

[rudder]

Back to the new-hire bid topic….

While it isn’t feasible for Jazz to guarantee airplane, there is no reason it cannot have Base specific PIT courses. So when a job offer is made, it assures initial Base (still subject to the risk of reduction/displacement after the fact).

Would take a let from the union due to backfilling provisions (there would need to be a cutoff of backfilling to the Base prior to the PIT course in question).

However, given the MOS debacle there is NO REASON for the union to be offering any relief to the employer to assist in pilot recruitment.

The MOS process result should have been better for all concerned. It was not.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Back to the new-hire bid topic….

While it isn’t feasible for Jazz to guarantee airplane, there is no reason it cannot have Base specific PIT courses. So when a job offer is made, it assures initial Base (still subject to the risk of reduction/displacement after the fact).

Would take a let from the union due to backfilling provisions (there would need to be a cutoff of backfilling to the Base prior to the PIT course in question).

However, given the MOS debacle there is NO REASON for the union to be offering any relief to the employer to assist in pilot recruitment.

The MOS process result should have been better for all concerned. It was not.

And with fleet wide same pay…. You’re right. They can offer based on initial offers of employment. But this could be a simple fix to some living in the west getting a yyz base. Which would help staffing and indirectly retention

[cdnavater]

Back to the new-hire bid topic….

While it isn’t feasible for Jazz to guarantee airplane, there is no reason it cannot have Base specific PIT courses. So when a job offer is made, it assures initial Base (still subject to the risk of reduction/displacement after the fact).

Would take a let from the union due to backfilling provisions (there would need to be a cutoff of backfilling to the Base prior to the PIT course in question).

However, given the MOS debacle there is NO REASON for the union to be offering any relief to the employer to assist in pilot recruitment.

The MOS process result should have been better for all concerned. It was not.

And with fleet wide same pay…. You’re right. They can offer based on initial offers of employment. But this could be a simple fix to some living in the west getting a yyz base. Which would help staffing and indirectly retention

Did you miss the part where we are not giving anything for free anymore, we should not be fixing their recruitment problems.