Relief Pilot hour logging

[cygair]

Dear all,
My friend started a 777 RP job this year and we would like to understand exactly how to log flight hours. Do you consider the all flight-time ?
Thanks.

[Man_in_the_sky]

why log hour when you're already at mainline and flying the triple... is he planning on sending his resume somewhere else ?

[cygair]

why log hour when you're already at mainline and flying the triple... is he planning on sending his resume somewhere else ?

Personal Discipline ?

[vanislepilot]

why log hour when you're already at mainline and flying the triple... is he planning on sending his resume somewhere else ?

What if they want to go to the states? Europe? Middle east?
What if they realize they rather not fly airline and go corporate?

[Man_in_the_sky]

why log hour when you're already at mainline and flying the triple... is he planning on sending his resume somewhere else ?

What if they want to go to the states? Europe? Middle east?
What if they realize they rather not fly airline and go corporate?

you might be right, those backseat hours will help him land a G550 captain spot

[cjp]

why log hour when you're already at mainline and flying the triple... is he planning on sending his resume somewhere else ?

What if they want to go to the states? Europe? Middle east?
What if they realize they rather not fly airline and go corporate?

you might be right, those backseat hours will help him land a G550 captain spot

Barrick is hiring.

[GIVCE!]

There’s people flying RP 777 at Air Canada and they don’t even know how to log time? Holy sh it…
G

[Man_in_the_sky]

There’s people flying RP 777 at Air Canada and they don’t even know how to log time? Holy sh it…
G

Are they flying tho...

[FL030]

I wouldn't log it. It's not recognized by anyone as flight time. It's your log book though and you can put anything you want in it.

[smooth]

How about when CA in the bunk? Does he log time when he's sleeping? Or the FO. They are not flying when sleeping. But they still do. Therefore, I believe you still log your time at least when RP on seat during cruise. What's the difference between FO/CA on seat and RP on the seat?

I wouldn't log it. It's not recognized by anyone as flight time. It's your log book though and you can put anything you want in it.

[Admiral Benson]

Log 66.6% for 3 crew. Log 50% for 4 crew.

That's how they did it during your Indoc. So continue that.

AB

[Man_in_the_sky]

How about when CA in the bunk? Does he log time when he's sleeping? Or the FO. They are not flying when sleeping. But they still do. Therefore, I believe you still log your time at least when RP on seat during cruise. What's the difference between FO/CA on seat and RP on the seat?

I wouldn't log it. It's not recognized by anyone as flight time. It's your log book though and you can put anything you want in it.

Well, don't they have a ppc on type.. wich the RP doesn't ?

[smooth]

Yes they do, it says 777CRP 787CRP 330CRP. It's a type rating restricted for cruise only.

How about when CA in the bunk? Does he log time when he's sleeping? Or the FO. They are not flying when sleeping. But they still do. Therefore, I believe you still log your time at least when RP on seat during cruise. What's the difference between FO/CA on seat and RP on the seat?

I wouldn't log it. It's not recognized by anyone as flight time. It's your log book though and you can put anything you want in it.

Well, don't they have a ppc on type.. wich the RP doesn't ?

[smooth]

Yes they do, it says 777CRP 787CRP 330CRP on their booklet. It's a type rating restricted for cruise only. RP go through the same training as FO. Plus the left seat emergency during cruise.

How about when CA in the bunk? Does he log time when he's sleeping? Or the FO. They are not flying when sleeping. But they still do. Therefore, I believe you still log your time at least when RP on seat during cruise. What's the difference between FO/CA on seat and RP on the seat?

Well, don't they have a ppc on type.. wich the RP doesn't ?

[Dias]

RP go through the same training as FO.

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[smooth]

They do the same IPT and SIM. But obviously not takeoff and landing part during IOE. You’re right, It used to be different course, RP used to go through a much quicker and shorter course. Many RP rushing through and had to book IPT/SIM in their spare time. So when MS came in he changed that to what we have now

The reason I know RP and FO go through the same IPT/SIM training, because I’m looking at the training script right now

Nodoubt.jpg

RP go through the same training as FO.

doubt.jpg

[Alkasultzer]

What do you call a RP south of the border?

[Chateau]

What do you call a RP south of the border?

A highly paid Widebody First Officer

[flyingcanuck]

What do you call a RP south of the border?

im sure if they could get US wages to do the RP job theyd do it

[CPU2000]

Relief Pilots are just a way for Air Canada to save a few dimes

It's an absolute joke

Canuckistan...hanging with the likes of Asian carriers & Qantas!

Keep that bar...low

[Inverted2]

If you’re not involved in the takeoff or landing of the flight, don’t see why you should log any of it, but if you’re at AC why do you care? If you’re interested in going to the US or overseas? Yes I would care because they won’t view it as legitimate time on type.

[Freshredmeat]

If you’re not involved in the takeoff or landing of the flight, don’t see why you should log any of it, but if you’re at AC why do you care? If you’re interested in going to the US or overseas? Yes I would care because they won’t view it as legitimate time on type.

What Korean Air CRM school did you attend?

All pilots in the flight deck are involved in the takeoff & landing

Yikes!!

[Victory]

They do the same IPT and SIM. But obviously not takeoff and landing part during IOE. You’re right, It used to be different course, RP used to go through a much quicker and shorter course. Many RP rushing through and had to book IPT/SIM in their spare time. So when MS came in he changed that to what we have now

The reason I know RP and FO go through the same IPT/SIM training, because I’m looking at the training script right now

Nodoubt.jpg

RP go through the same training as FO.

doubt.jpg

Line indoc is part of training under the CARs. If an RP is not taking off and landing a real airplane they haven't completed the same training as an FO.

[CaptDukeNukem]

They do the same IPT and SIM. But obviously not takeoff and landing part during IOE. You’re right, It used to be different course, RP used to go through a much quicker and shorter course. Many RP rushing through and had to book IPT/SIM in their spare time. So when MS came in he changed that to what we have now

The reason I know RP and FO go through the same IPT/SIM training, because I’m looking at the training script right now

Nodoubt.jpg

doubt.jpg

Line indoc is part of training under the CARs. If an RP is not taking off and landing a real airplane they haven't completed the same training as an FO.

Is there such thing as an “non-real” airplane? I guess you probably shouldn’t log VATSIM flight sim FSX hours.

[Dry Guy]

If you have the option, get a full type rating and start logging widebody FO time right now. Given the current job market and what could happen if more real airlines start hiring Canadian FOs you don't want to be fighting for the time later. The RP type rating is the equivalent of a training bond and everyone is going to want out of it at once if that happens.

Because that airline, that airline is NOT real.