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Jazz cancellations

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Speaking strictly from a travelling passenger prospective, is Jazz flight cancellations much higher as of late. We had the rug hauled out from under us on our NY trip couple of times. Most notably enroute YQM-YYZ I got text notification our leg from YYZ -EWR was cancelled. That added anxiety to the trip no doubt, lucky we got routed via United to ORD - SYC( our final destination) but scrambling was necessary. Now wx was shown as culprit however like all here access to TAF/METAR are readily accessible and nothing was significant as I saw it. Only reason I went AC/JAZZ was to unload 70k Aeroplan points, Jazz appears to be unreliable.
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Re: Jazz cancellations

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Old fella wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:42 am Speaking strictly from a travelling passenger prospective, is Jazz flight cancellations much higher as of late. We had the rug hauled out from under us on our NY trip couple of times. Most notably enroute YQM-YYZ I got text notification our leg from YYZ -EWR was cancelled. That added anxiety to the trip no doubt, lucky we got routed via United to ORD - SYC( our final destination) but scrambling was necessary. Now wx was shown as culprit however like all here access to TAF/METAR are readily accessible and nothing was significant as I saw it. Only reason I went AC/JAZZ was to unload 70k Aeroplan points, Jazz appears to be unreliable.
I believe Jazz cancellations rates higher than most airlines in the country. blaming WX as the reason, relieves them from all associated costs. The trouble with this though as a passenger, it doesn’t need necessarily be directly related to “your” flight. Weather can pose a problem early in the day and create rolling delays, which I think, can still be blamed on weather even tho it’s cleared up. Maybe someone can add to this.

I do think there was probably a multitude of reasons why it was cancelled or delayed, but the easiest one to blame, is the one that doesn’t cost the company money.
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Old fella wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:42 am Speaking strictly from a travelling passenger prospective, is Jazz flight cancellations much higher as of late. We had the rug hauled out from under us on our NY trip couple of times. Most notably enroute YQM-YYZ I got text notification our leg from YYZ -EWR was cancelled. That added anxiety to the trip no doubt, lucky we got routed via United to ORD - SYC( our final destination) but scrambling was necessary. Now wx was shown as culprit however like all here access to TAF/METAR are readily accessible and nothing was significant as I saw it. Only reason I went AC/JAZZ was to unload 70k Aeroplan points, Jazz appears to be unreliable.
Hey Old fella,
Sorry to hear this, as a Jazz pilot I am shocked how the upper management at AC and Jazz are slow to do anything and even then, seemingly too little to try and fix the situation.
To answer your question, there is quite a lot of uncovered flying for the next month, that doesn’t mean it won’t get covered it just means that pilots are still short. I hope it will stabilize but I’m not sure it will for the short term.
As for the weather, duke is correct, the weather in YYC could cause a cancellation out East. If a flight YYC-YYZ cancels and dead heading crew is delayed or simply doesn’t get to their pairing, it will have a down line effect. We are a Canada/U.S operations and literally any airport weather could affect whether your crew operates, I’ve started out in YYC and ended my day in Gander after 4 legs, so any weather across Canada could have affected those flights
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There were a lot of canceled flights this summer but in the last month or so there are fewer canceled flights. Our flying has been drastically cut back. EWR flights get canceled a lot due to ATC flow and weather as well. If there’s storms in the NYC area it will be a mess.
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Inverted2 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:58 pm There were a lot of canceled flights this summer but in the last month or so there are fewer canceled flights. Our flying has been drastically cut back. EWR flights get canceled a lot due to ATC flow and weather as well. If there’s storms in the NYC area it will be a mess.
FWIW Flightradar24 on the day of our cancellation indicated a much different picture of what was getting in and out of EWR. This isn’t a pot shot against the guys/gals working in the pointy end , needless to say y’all are a dedicated group of ordinary grunts trying to do your jobs , perhaps as suggested with indifferent management. Flying domestically as fare paying dudes just isn’t fun anymore.
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Re: Jazz cancellations

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I has a 2+ hour delay going to LGA a couple of weeks ago, because they instituted a ground stop for all YYZ departures to the NYC area… not because of weather or congestion in the NYC area, but because of airspace “saturation” in Cleveland’s airspace… the centre we spend the least time with on that flight delayed everything for everyone!
It isn’t always logical, but it also isn’t always within the airline’s control!
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