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Bidding for base is only after getting hired?

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Does Jazz hire people with only one base choice? Or all hires have to bid on the base?

Basically, due to some personal reasons, is there a way to know if you can start at the base you prefer before commencing training?
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Me262 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:25 pm Does Jazz hire people with only one base choice? Or all hires have to bid on the base?

Basically, due to some personal reasons, is there a way to know if you can start at the base you prefer before commencing training?
Base and aircraft is picked during the first week of training. You do not know what will be available for your groundschool before you show up. You might be able to get the desired base right away, if not, most new hires have been able to transfer within a few months, often before finishing training.
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If we unfortunately are assigned to a base far away from home, is there any way to be put back into the talent pool for the next batch of training? If we do get assigned away, how long does it roughly take to transfer back to YVR?
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icetouch wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:03 pm If we unfortunately are assigned to a base far away from home, is there any way to be put back into the talent pool for the next batch of training? If we do get assigned away, how long does it roughly take to transfer back to YVR?
Once you're hired and assigned an aircraft and base, there's no way to be put back into the talent pool to retry for the next class, but not to worry, it should only take a couple months before you're able to transfer to your base of preference. That is assuming you're assigned Q400 or CRJ as they have western bases. If you're assigned the Embraer, you'll be frozen for 2 years on type and be forced to commute from out west but as of now, they're no longer doing any initials on the Embraer as Porter scooped up most of the Jazz training department for that aircraft. You could also apply to other companies with western operations such as Flair, Westjet, Cargojet, Morningstar, Porter(yvr base coming soon?) and if you don't get your preferred western base at Jazz, just resign and go to one of those companies as that has happened a few times recently during Jazz PIT courses.
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icetouch wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:03 pm If we unfortunately are assigned to a base far away from home, is there any way to be put back into the talent pool for the next batch of training? If we do get assigned away, how long does it roughly take to transfer back to YVR?
At that point you’d be better off staying at Jazz. You’ll get a new base assignment before a new hire would get that base, and for the first few months until you finish your PPC you’ll have confirmed flights to and from training and a paid hotel while you’re in training.
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goleafsgo wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:47 am
icetouch wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:03 pm If we unfortunately are assigned to a base far away from home, is there any way to be put back into the talent pool for the next batch of training? If we do get assigned away, how long does it roughly take to transfer back to YVR?
At that point you’d be better off staying at Jazz. You’ll get a new base assignment before a new hire would get that base, and for the first few months until you finish your PPC you’ll have confirmed flights to and from training and a paid hotel while you’re in training.
So you have a few months time to apply at other companies to get another base if the base selection doesn't work out at Jazz :mrgreen:
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goleafsgo wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:47 am
icetouch wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:03 pm If we unfortunately are assigned to a base far away from home, is there any way to be put back into the talent pool for the next batch of training? If we do get assigned away, how long does it roughly take to transfer back to YVR?
At that point you’d be better off staying at Jazz. You’ll get a new base assignment before a new hire would get that base, and for the first few months until you finish your PPC you’ll have confirmed flights to and from training and a paid hotel while you’re in training.
My class in September had all YYC and YVR assignments. Sounds like lots of movement to the eastern bases and spots opening up in the west.
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Do you get a couple weeks of paid accomodation at your new base to give you time to sort out accomodations or do you have to find a place while in ground school? If it's the latter, do you get some free time during training to deal with that?
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superbilly24 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:55 am
Me262 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:25 pm Does Jazz hire people with only one base choice? Or all hires have to bid on the base?

Basically, due to some personal reasons, is there a way to know if you can start at the base you prefer before commencing training?
Base and aircraft is picked during the first week of training. You do not know what will be available for your groundschool before you show up. You might be able to get the desired base right away, if not, most new hires have been able to transfer within a few months, often before finishing training.
Good day,

How long is the process today from first sending a resume to starting ground school, interview, sim eval?
Thank you
fly safe
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lidi wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:49 am
superbilly24 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:55 am
Me262 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:25 pm Does Jazz hire people with only one base choice? Or all hires have to bid on the base?

Basically, due to some personal reasons, is there a way to know if you can start at the base you prefer before commencing training?
Base and aircraft is picked during the first week of training. You do not know what will be available for your groundschool before you show up. You might be able to get the desired base right away, if not, most new hires have been able to transfer within a few months, often before finishing training.
Good day,

How long is the process today from first sending a resume to starting ground school, interview, sim eval?
Thank you
fly safe
3-4 months from first contact to job offer
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yowflyer23 wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:04 pm Do you get a couple weeks of paid accomodation at your new base to give you time to sort out accomodations or do you have to find a place while in ground school? If it's the latter, do you get some free time during training to deal with that?
The short answer to both is No.

Initial grounschool and sim in YYZ does include hotel accommodation and per diems. There should be a few gaps in initial to allow you to go home or scout out stuff but it is not 'provided' per se
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Mobius_09 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:47 pm
lidi wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:49 am
superbilly24 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:55 am

Base and aircraft is picked during the first week of training. You do not know what will be available for your groundschool before you show up. You might be able to get the desired base right away, if not, most new hires have been able to transfer within a few months, often before finishing training.
Good day,

How long is the process today from first sending a resume to starting ground school, interview, sim eval?
Thank you
fly safe
3-4 months from first contact to job offer
Does Jazz generally take a few weeks after your references are contacted?

Was told that by 2 weeks after sim eval/drug screening/CRC we will get an answer. It's true that my last reference was contacted middle of 2nd week after the sim eval. Going now into the 3rd week is a good or bad sign? Can they take another week/2/3 after your references have been contacted?
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Me262 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:20 am
Mobius_09 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:47 pm
lidi wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:49 am
Good day,

How long is the process today from first sending a resume to starting ground school, interview, sim eval?
Thank you
fly safe
3-4 months from first contact to job offer
Does Jazz generally take a few weeks after your references are contacted?

Was told that by 2 weeks after sim eval/drug screening/CRC we will get an answer. It's true that my last reference was contacted middle of 2nd week after the sim eval. Going now into the 3rd week is a good or bad sign? Can they take another week/2/3 after your references have been contacted?
You completed the CRC and screening, that is almost always a given you'll get the offer at some point.

Edit** I should also add that PFOs don't drag on as long as a you're hired letter/phone call. They're quicker!
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QKZXKV wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:53 am
Me262 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:20 am
Mobius_09 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:47 pm

3-4 months from first contact to job offer
Does Jazz generally take a few weeks after your references are contacted?

Was told that by 2 weeks after sim eval/drug screening/CRC we will get an answer. It's true that my last reference was contacted middle of 2nd week after the sim eval. Going now into the 3rd week is a good or bad sign? Can they take another week/2/3 after your references have been contacted?
You completed the CRC and screening, that is almost always a given you'll get the offer at some point.

Edit** I should also add that PFOs don't drag on as long as a you're hired letter/phone call. They're quicker!
Thank you, this gives hope! I also assume an offer letter takes more steps/people involved to issue.
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Me262 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:55 am
QKZXKV wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:53 am
Me262 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:20 am

Does Jazz generally take a few weeks after your references are contacted?

Was told that by 2 weeks after sim eval/drug screening/CRC we will get an answer. It's true that my last reference was contacted middle of 2nd week after the sim eval. Going now into the 3rd week is a good or bad sign? Can they take another week/2/3 after your references have been contacted?
You completed the CRC and screening, that is almost always a given you'll get the offer at some point.

Edit** I should also add that PFOs don't drag on as long as a you're hired letter/phone call. They're quicker!
Thank you, this gives hope! I also assume an offer letter takes more steps/people involved to issue.
Jazz hiring is like molasses, you have to wait them out unfortunately. Idk what the people in Halifax do all day, sometimes it seems like very little productivity there.
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QKZXKV wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:38 am
Me262 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:55 am
QKZXKV wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:53 am

You completed the CRC and screening, that is almost always a given you'll get the offer at some point.

Edit** I should also add that PFOs don't drag on as long as a you're hired letter/phone call. They're quicker!
Thank you, this gives hope! I also assume an offer letter takes more steps/people involved to issue.
Jazz hiring is like molasses, you have to wait them out unfortunately. Idk what the people in Halifax do all day, sometimes it seems like very little productivity there.
It's just the unknown that's the worst part. If I had an answer (hopeful a positive one) I would have no problem waiting 6 months even to start :)
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Me262 wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:28 pm
QKZXKV wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:38 am
Me262 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:55 am

Thank you, this gives hope! I also assume an offer letter takes more steps/people involved to issue.
Jazz hiring is like molasses, you have to wait them out unfortunately. Idk what the people in Halifax do all day, sometimes it seems like very little productivity there.
It's just the unknown that's the worst part. If I had an answer (hopeful a positive one) I would have no problem waiting 6 months even to start :)
No news is usually good news (sorry for the cliche).
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QKZXKV wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:33 am
Me262 wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:28 pm
QKZXKV wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:38 am

Jazz hiring is like molasses, you have to wait them out unfortunately. Idk what the people in Halifax do all day, sometimes it seems like very little productivity there.
It's just the unknown that's the worst part. If I had an answer (hopeful a positive one) I would have no problem waiting 6 months even to start :)
No news is usually good news (sorry for the cliche).
Going to keep the fingers crossed, thank you.

Question, let's say I get an offer next week, what is the earliest GS date I could get? I assume the 30th Oct is out of the question so would the 20th be reasonable? Or there's a chance for even a later one (11th Dec)?

I'm seriously considering doing some traveling now before getting (finger crossed, knock on wood) hired. I have a feeling that once I start this journey, the first year will have very little opportunity to travel anymore, possibly at least until I finish with reserve shifts.
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