2 CREW restricted CAT 1 Medical

[PrairieWings]

I received my CAT 1 back with this restriction after a health issue;
It now states:

you must be accompanied by another pilot who holds an unrestricted, medically valid pilot licence with the appropriate category, class and rating for the intended flight;

My CAME is going to bat for me and wants the restriction lifted ASAP but says it could take 6+ months for our glorious federal bureaucracy to comply…

Question: I would really like to start applying for jobs now as the industry is fairly hot and would love to get on WJ if possible. Could this backfire as them seeing this and my file getting ‘red flagged’ in their HR system for the future or should I go ahead and apply now…?? 6000 TT (mostly turbine PIC)

[JBI]

If you're applying for Single Pilot jobs, then this is an issue. If you're applying for 2 crew airline jobs it's a non-issue. Airline only needs to know after you've been hired as it can effect their scheduling. I know for a fact the major 705 operators in Canada have dozens if not hundreds of pilots with the multi-crew restriction. I had such a restriction for a while. It's no issue at WJ.

The slight fuzzy area would be if you're applying to a corporate flight department that has only a few pilots. Maybe the senior guy already has a multi-crew restriction on his medical, so it would be an issue.

[Dronepiper]

What sorts of issues can cause someone to have a 2 crew restricted medical?

[NotDirty!]

What sorts of issues can cause someone to have a 2 crew restricted medical?

There are a variety of medical issues that fit into their risk matrix in such a way that they are a low enough risk to not disqualify completely from a licence, but the additional risk above a “normal, healthy” individual warrants a restriction against single pilot commercial operations. These restrictions may be temporary or permanent, depending on the underlying condition.

The CARs also do not allow two pilots with restricted medicals from flying together, even though the conditions that necessitated the issuance of restricted medicals may be completely unrelated (one may be an insulin dependent diabetic, one may have an increased risk of cardiac problems).

[futboler14]

I had a 2 Crew restriction years ago.

I wasn't applying for jobs at the time, but it wasn't an issue for me. I was already flying 705 machines though.

I don't have the restriction anymore, so keep the faith. It can come off.

[PrairieWings]

Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate your insight and time.

Never imagined not notifying employer until after getting hired…Was thinking probably would have to latest at the job-offer stage…

Can be frustrating to try and deal with RAMO and AMRB who see you as just another file # and chip in the armour of their butt covering, but I remain optimistic as my health improves daily and my CAME is fully onboard to achieve success.

[goldeneagle]

Never imagined not notifying employer until after getting hired…Was thinking probably would have to latest at the job-offer stage…

I cant imagine any airline will present a job offer before confirming your license and medical paperwork.

In the 20 years I spent as a CP, up to date photocopy of license and medical was required to be in everybody's training files, and they were checked by TC every time they came thru for an inspection. We usually put the first copies on file at initial interview.

If you get as far as a job offer without them realizing the restriction on your license/medical, then I'd start asking myself how sloppy are they with things like maintenance and dispatch paperwork? Do you really want to work there ?

[JBI]

Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate your insight and time.

Never imagined not notifying employer until after getting hired…Was thinking probably would have to latest at the job-offer stage…

Can be frustrating to try and deal with RAMO and AMRB who see you as just another file # and chip in the armour of their butt covering, but I remain optimistic as my health improves daily and my CAME is fully onboard to achieve success.

Just to clarify, I wasn’t suggesting withholding any information. More just that for major airlines it’s a non-issue and you shouldn’t feel the need to make a special case to bring it to their attention. If the application asks if you have a Cat I medical, the answer is yes. If they ask if there are any restrictions, then clarify. They will see you have a multi-crew restriction when you provide a copy of your licence and medical. I recall mostly showing those documents at interviews.

Keep in mind though, if you applied to a major airline and they said “oh, we’re not going to hire you because you have a multi-crew restriction” they are actually likely violating the Canadian Human Rights Act. Most airlines won’t give you a reason why they PFO’d you though.

[PrairieWings]

Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate your insight and time.

Never imagined not notifying employer until after getting hired…Was thinking probably would have to latest at the job-offer stage…

Can be frustrating to try and deal with RAMO and AMRB who see you as just another file # and chip in the armour of their butt covering, but I remain optimistic as my health improves daily and my CAME is fully onboard to achieve success.

Just to clarify, I wasn’t suggesting withholding any information. More just that for major airlines it’s a non-issue and you shouldn’t feel the need to make a special case to bring it to their attention. If the application asks if you have a Cat I medical, the answer is yes. If they ask if there are any restrictions, then clarify. They will see you have a multi-crew restriction when you provide a copy of your licence and medical. I recall mostly showing those documents at interviews.

Keep in mind though, if you applied to a major airline and they said “oh, we’re not going to hire you because you have a multi-crew restriction” they are actually likely violating the Canadian Human Rights Act. Most airlines won’t give you a reason why they PFO’d you though.

Excellent info: Thanks JBI !