Fatal helicopter crash Prince George

[Bede]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... ter-crash/

[J31]

https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/loc ... sh-7616920

[cncpc]

I did hear a bit on this last night from a good source.

Six people in a Long Ranger. Confined space vertical takeoff. On clearing canopy, wind change that put the wind on the tail. LTE and into the trees.

Apparently not a commercial operator. I'm surprised Canfor would put their contractors into a private helicopter.

[cncpc]

The helicopter was commercially registered, but the owner name does not show on TC list of approved organizations.

[North Shore]

I did hear a bit on this last night from a good source.

Six people in a Long Ranger. Confined space vertical takeoff. On clearing canopy, wind change that put the wind on the tail. LTE and into the trees.

Apparently not a commercial operator. I'm surprised Canfor would put their contractors into a private helicopter.

LTE? Whazzat, for us non-rotorheads, please?

[Squaretail]

Lost Torque Event?

Not rotorhead, just guessing.

[karmutzen]

LTE - loss of tailrotor effect. Lots of argument among pilots on what this means and what to do. Let it yaw into wind and drive it forward - if you can. Most experienced Canadian pilots (this one would be considered experienced) can feel the nibble of onset and reflexively adapt.

[goldeneagle]

I'm surprised Canfor would put their contractors into a private helicopter.

I read somewhere it was the contractor that owned the helicopter.

[cncpc]

I'm surprised Canfor would put their contractors into a private helicopter.

I read somewhere it was the contractor that owned the helicopter.

Yeah, I got that sense as well. The helicopter is registered to a company in the pilot's name. But, I think that one of the deceased was a contractor for Canfor. I also got the impression that there is some kind of soil remediation environmental company in the mix and the five others may have worked within that company.

But, I think Canfor was footing the bill.

Anyways, not the issue. Odds are it will come out as an LTE event.

[CpnCrunch]

So what's the deal with LTE? Is it an actual thing that can cause an accident, or just a failure to apply full pedal input until the aircraft is facing into wind again?

[karmutzen]

So what's the deal with LTE? Is it an actual thing that can cause an accident, or just a failure to apply full pedal input until the aircraft is facing into wind again?

Yeah, kind of a failure of the pilot to anticipate it and then not react positively. In media you will often see "LTE caused the accident", much the same as "weather caused the accident".

On a rainy day with a comfortable couch you can read this:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598- ... 20to%20LTE.

[daedalusx]

Bell 206L ?

LTE. Cased closed.

[J31]

A video example of loss of tail rotor effectiveness (LTE), sadly also fatal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wILGTInYE0U

[cncpc]

I read the comments in the YouTube video. Some sharp eyes have identified a tail rotor strike into the tree at 0:36. That's certainly in the mix for the causal chain.

I did most of my helicopter training in a Hughes 300 down at Carlsbad airport by Oceanside. Never a word about LTE at all.

[B206Fan]

I read the comments in the YouTube video. Some sharp eyes have identified a tail rotor strike into the tree at 0:36.

Have you got a link?

[cncpc]

It is the same link as J31 has posted above.