Companies posting job ads online are faced with the time-consuming task of sifting through hundreds of resumes received via email to find qualified candidates.
Do you think Canadian operators would use a platform that enables them to view multiple job seekers' qualifications on a single screen, sort candidates based on preferences such as total time, PIC time, time on type, and filter out unqualified candidates, as well as send out job offers?
What other ways are there to simplify the hiring process?
Hiring problem
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It's actually quite simple, no need to sift through to find qualified candidates if everyone just payed more...howso wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 2:31 pm Companies posting job ads online are faced with the time-consuming task of sifting through hundreds of resumes received via email to find qualified candidates.
Do you think Canadian operators would use a platform that enables them to view multiple job seekers' qualifications on a single screen, sort candidates based on preferences such as total time, PIC time, time on type, and filter out unqualified candidates, as well as send out job offers?
What other ways are there to simplify the hiring process?
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Kennedy007
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Re: Hiring problem
It's definitely a challenge for both companies and job seekers to navigate the hiring process. I think any platform that simplifies the process and allows for easy sorting and filtering of candidates based on specific criteria would be welcomed by many. However, it's important to keep in mind that such a platform would need to be user-friendly and accessible to a wide range of users. It's interesting to see how companies are using social media platforms, even TikTok, to post job postings. Instagram stories with the caption "click here to apply for a job" seems like a creative way to attract potential candidates. I really don't know if using social media to find a candidate can really work well and bring a deserving employee into a company.
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I don't think any company is having a problem sifting through 'hundreds' of resumes to find qualified candidates.
Simple database programs have been able to do this for years. Like on the GOOD aviation hiring sites where you upload your resume and the fields autopopulate (vs the other way when after you fill out your entire life story they want a resume and cover letter too).
Pretty sure today you could get ChatGPT or whatever to go through and quickly eliminate all of the resumes where pilots are still using decimal points for hours and don't have an ATPL.
When you only get one or two resumes, the more difficult task is performing the financial and risk analysis of training an unqualified candidate, paying the extra training and insurance rates required, appeasing the customer or getting exemptions from contract/contrail/bars requirements, and hoping they pass their PPC and line indoctrination and don't generate too many incidents or accidents.
Simple database programs have been able to do this for years. Like on the GOOD aviation hiring sites where you upload your resume and the fields autopopulate (vs the other way when after you fill out your entire life story they want a resume and cover letter too).
Pretty sure today you could get ChatGPT or whatever to go through and quickly eliminate all of the resumes where pilots are still using decimal points for hours and don't have an ATPL.
When you only get one or two resumes, the more difficult task is performing the financial and risk analysis of training an unqualified candidate, paying the extra training and insurance rates required, appeasing the customer or getting exemptions from contract/contrail/bars requirements, and hoping they pass their PPC and line indoctrination and don't generate too many incidents or accidents.
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Thank you. This is exactly the feedback I was looking for.
Yes, simple database programs have been capable of organizing data for years, but why do operators still require applicants to submit resumes via email without providing an option to enter hours directly on their website? With email as the sole option, a company representative must manually click each email to open it, download the resume, and view it, only to find out that the applicant falls hundreds of hours short of the minimum requirement for the job or have zero hours on type. Imagine sifting through hundreds of these resumes from desperate pilots.
ChatGPT cannot accept external data. Even if it could, there are far too many types of flying hours to be categorized.
Yes, simple database programs have been capable of organizing data for years, but why do operators still require applicants to submit resumes via email without providing an option to enter hours directly on their website? With email as the sole option, a company representative must manually click each email to open it, download the resume, and view it, only to find out that the applicant falls hundreds of hours short of the minimum requirement for the job or have zero hours on type. Imagine sifting through hundreds of these resumes from desperate pilots.
ChatGPT cannot accept external data. Even if it could, there are far too many types of flying hours to be categorized.
‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:28 pm I don't think any company is having a problem sifting through 'hundreds' of resumes to find qualified candidates.
Simple database programs have been able to do this for years. Like on the GOOD aviation hiring sites where you upload your resume and the fields autopopulate (vs the other way when after you fill out your entire life story they want a resume and cover letter too).
Pretty sure today you could get ChatGPT or whatever to go through and quickly eliminate all of the resumes where pilots are still using decimal points for hours and don't have an ATPL.
When you only get one or two resumes, the more difficult task is performing the financial and risk analysis of training an unqualified candidate, paying the extra training and insurance rates required, appeasing the customer or getting exemptions from contract/contrail/bars requirements, and hoping they pass their PPC and line indoctrination and don't generate too many incidents or accidents.
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Yes, both parties are wasting a lot of time, as job seekers are going through ads they don't qualify for, and companies are going through applicants they can't hire.
Kennedy007 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 12:51 am It's definitely a challenge for both companies and job seekers to navigate the hiring process. I think any platform that simplifies the process and allows for easy sorting and filtering of candidates based on specific criteria would be welcomed by many. However, it's important to keep in mind that such a platform would need to be user-friendly and accessible to a wide range of users. It's interesting to see how companies are using social media platforms, even TikTok, to post job postings. Instagram stories with the caption "click here to apply for a job" seems like a creative way to attract potential candidates. I really don't know if using social media to find a candidate can really work well and bring a deserving employee into a company.
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Seems to me like some data-savvy individual could start up a national pilot pool. Charge companies to access it (they’re already paying for wasted time in HR or for their own IT departments to run crappy databases) and put a small subscription fee or something on the pilot end to cut down on fake applications.
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Yes, not precisely the same, but something similar.
Top_Gun wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 2:40 pm Kinda like Airline Apps that they have in the states?
https://www.airlineapps.com/
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RoAF-Mig21
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Re: Hiring problem
I'd say that companies should post in an add the following things:
1. Exact salary (and if a range is expected what will each "range" require, in terms of qualifications or time spent with the company)
2. Benefits
3. Schedule
The majority of those to apply to generic job adds "King Air F/O" are just blindly throwing in their resume, to see if something bites.
1. Exact salary (and if a range is expected what will each "range" require, in terms of qualifications or time spent with the company)
2. Benefits
3. Schedule
The majority of those to apply to generic job adds "King Air F/O" are just blindly throwing in their resume, to see if something bites.
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I can provide numerous pilot job opportunities that Canadians can apply for,
which are not posted here.
However, I'm uncertain if the pilots would enroll in the service, even if it were free.
which are not posted here.
However, I'm uncertain if the pilots would enroll in the service, even if it were free.
lownslow wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:17 am Seems to me like some data-savvy individual could start up a national pilot pool. Charge companies to access it (they’re already paying for wasted time in HR or for their own IT departments to run crappy databases) and put a small subscription fee or something on the pilot end to cut down on fake applications.
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Database? What kind of beepboop junk is that? Nerd!
Don't expect any significant technological jumps in this industry, I literally had to fax a resume to an operator only 10 years ago. Though I have heard some might grudgingly adapt BBM soon.
Don't expect any significant technological jumps in this industry, I literally had to fax a resume to an operator only 10 years ago. Though I have heard some might grudgingly adapt BBM soon.
