E2 new hires

[Fly101p]

Hey! Does anyone know what the experience level of people getting hired on the E2 currently look like? Any other information would help out too such us time from application to interview to offer letter etc.. THANKS

[bueno]

1700 hrs, 1100 pic, 1100 turbine, ATPL did the trick. Heard back to schedule an interview within 2 days of applying, job offer within 30 seconds of finishing the video interview

[CaptDukeNukem]

1700 hrs, 1100 pic, 1100 turbine, ATPL did the trick. Heard back to schedule an interview within 2 days of applying, job offer within 30 seconds of finishing the video interview

Sound about right. I think the 1100 PIC and turbine helped you out there. Not so easy with the same 1700 hours as instructor.

But I don’t do the hiring. Best anyone can do is send their resume. You’ll find out soon enough

[flyingpilot]

what does the schedule for a new hire look like (pairing length, reserve, chances of being called on reserve, days worked per month)? thanks

[Timetoflyagain]

..if you’re hired as a FO…we’re overweight in Captains currently, so your time on reserve will effectively be the rest of the month after you pass your linecheck, and with continual hiring, not more than a couple of months afterwards. Pairings run from 1-5 days, Jan’s mix was far (imho) better than the heavy 4+5 day Dec. lots more single and 2 day pairings. If on reserve, expect to fly. Previous months would see lots of open flying…almost nothing now, and when an email looking hits the inbox, more often than not it’s picked up within minutes. Might change with Xmas/NYE shortly. Direct entry captains will have a longer time on reserve as they are plentiful currently…expect right seat flying if qualified, and could delay the 100/300 hr PIC benchmarks for low vis/Cat2 ops.

[flyingpilot]

as a new hire FO, do you get reserve blocks the whole month or is it limited to one or two blocks per month?

[flyingpilot]

And is there a commuting policy?

[Chaxterium]

There is a commuting policy but I'm not terribly familiar with it so I'll let someone else answer. Regarding reserve it will most likely be a full block until you can hold a flying block. Good news is that it probably won't take long as an FO since we're so light on FOs. For the last 2 (maybe 3) months we've had to ask captains to bid as FOs to even things out.

[flyingpilot]

What is the max number of days worked per month? What is the maximum number of reserve blocks per month, and how many days is each reserve block? Thanks

[braaap Braap]

What is the max number of days worked per month? What is the maximum number of reserve blocks per month, and how many days is each reserve block? Thanks

18/19 days. We are only guaranteed 12 days off a month. You're either straight reserve (18/19 days) or a line holder (usually 13 or 14 days off) unless youre a brand new FO and need to reach consolidation, they'll give you a mixed block for a few months.

[streamlineflow]

Hi,

I was wondering if Porter are still actively recruiting DEC on the E2 or they've slowed down the process.
I still haven't had any feedback regarding my application.
I have all the pre-requisites and I applied during December.

[flyinhigh]

Hi,

I was wondering if Porter are still actively recruiting DEC on the E2 or they've slowed down the process.
I still haven't had any feedback regarding my application.
I have all the pre-requisites and I applied during December.

They are hiring. New class starts next week with 8 DECs I believe.

Just remember they are swamped. On average there is around 20 pilots per class per fleet type each month.

If your resume is what they are looking for, I am sure you will hear back soon, especially with the holidays finally behind us.

[streamlineflow]

Hi,

I was wondering if Porter are still actively recruiting DEC on the E2 or they've slowed down the process.
I still haven't had any feedback regarding my application.
I have all the pre-requisites and I applied during December.

They are hiring. New class starts next week with 8 DECs I believe.

Just remember they are swamped. On average there is around 20 pilots per class per fleet type each month.

If your resume is what they are looking for, I am sure you will hear back soon, especially with the holidays finally behind us.

Thank you very much for your answer!

I have around 6000TT with ~2500h PIC on heavy props...

I hope it's gonna cut it.

Wait and see..

[Chaxterium]

Thank you very much for your answer!

I have around 6000TT with ~2500h PIC on heavy props...

I hope it's gonna cut it.

Wait and see..

Do you have any jet PIC?

[streamlineflow]

Thank you very much for your answer!

I have around 6000TT with ~2500h PIC on heavy props...

I hope it's gonna cut it.

Wait and see..

Do you have any jet PIC?

No Jet PIC... But they ask for 1000h+ PIC heavy turboprop in excess of 44,000lbs MGTOW.

[cjp]

I think they are prioritizing DEC with jet PIC versus turboprop PIC only. They have lots of highly experienced internal turboprop qualified Captain's on the Dash ready to move over. It takes resources to familiarize them with jet operations, particularly if they have no high altitude experience. Everything else is easy for them. Learning the jet and its mannerisms is a little more challenging. That part of the matrix is designed for them.

To bring someone in from the outside who has equivalent experience as those currently on the Dash would be a hard sell, regardless if they meet the matrix, hence why it's been a bit since you've heard. I think most Dash pilots have been understanding as far as the DECs go, as they (the DECs) are generally well experienced jet Captains from various Canadian and international outfits.

My guess is - and keep in mind I do not hire - if you applied tomorrow right seat, no question. Left seat, you likely won't hear back, even with heavy turboprop PIC.

Best of luck, but truly I would not want to explain to the FO with the same or higher experience sitting in your right seat your story as it probably wouldn't be the most pleasant of pairings.

[streamlineflow]

I think they are prioritizing pilots with jet PIC versus truboprop. They have lots of highly experienced internal turboprop qualified Captain's on the Dash ready to move over. It takes resources to familiarize them with jet operations, particularly if they have no high altitude experience. Everything else is easy for them. Learning the jet and its maneurisms is a little more challenging.

To bring someone in from the outside who has equivalent experience as those currently on the Dash would be a hard sell, regardless if they meet the matrix, hence why it's been a bit since you've heard. I think most Dash pilots have been understanding as far as the DECs go, as they (the DECs) are generally well experienced jet Captains from various Canadian and international outfits.

My guess is - and keep in mind I do not hire - if you applied tomorrow right seat, no question. Left seat, you likely won't hear back, even with heavy turboprop PIC.

Best of luck, but truly I would not want to explain to the FO with the same or higher experience sitting in your right seat your story as it probably wouldn't be the most pleasant of pairings.

Fair enough...

Thanks for your insight.

The question now is why would they keep the door open for turboprop captains (>1000h PIC) on the job requirements?

Other companies simply add something like >500h JET PIC for their DEC job postings...

[CaptDukeNukem]

I think they are prioritizing pilots with jet PIC versus truboprop. They have lots of highly experienced internal turboprop qualified Captain's on the Dash ready to move over. It takes resources to familiarize them with jet operations, particularly if they have no high altitude experience. Everything else is easy for them. Learning the jet and its maneurisms is a little more challenging.

To bring someone in from the outside who has equivalent experience as those currently on the Dash would be a hard sell, regardless if they meet the matrix, hence why it's been a bit since you've heard. I think most Dash pilots have been understanding as far as the DECs go, as they (the DECs) are generally well experienced jet Captains from various Canadian and international outfits.

My guess is - and keep in mind I do not hire - if you applied tomorrow right seat, no question. Left seat, you likely won't hear back, even with heavy turboprop PIC.

Best of luck, but truly I would not want to explain to the FO with the same or higher experience sitting in your right seat your story as it probably wouldn't be the most pleasant of pairings.

Fair enough...

Thanks for your insight.

The question now is why you they keep the door open for turboprop captains (>1000h PIC) on the job requirements?

Other companies simply add something like >500h JET PIC for their DEC job postings...

Historically, companies have always posted minimums hiring levels. It’s two fold: 1) it makes it much easier to avoid several hundred people applying for a position they aren’t qualified for, and 2) it allows them to have a fresh stack of resumes when it is required.

Absolutely you should apply. Always keep yourself marketable. You may meet the matrix now, and they may be interested, if not today, then a few months from now.

You’re showing them you are interested at the very least, and you may even be surprised.

[Joe Blow Schmo]

Does Porter offer years of service credit for DECs from other airlines?

[braaap Braap]

Does Porter offer years of service credit for DECs from other airlines?

Not on the E2. Dash CAs (for the most part) don’t even get YOS when they transfer over from the D8.

As far as I know, Dash 8 DECs can still receive YOS for years spent in the left seat of the Q400.

[namngm]

Good afternoon fellow aviators, its my first time posting here and I tried earlier but for some reason I cant find it. Well perhaps this section will work.
I have recently gotten an email from the company and looks like some training may happen in europe.

My question is about the sim training, are the same SOP's done even if we do any training in europe? or do we come back and do some sort of Sop harmonization since the type rating out side may be done with regular instructors and NOT Porter instructors.

last question, once one gets thru the PPC check ride assuming with no major hiccups is that it for sim can we head back to get some needed rest or are they any additional sim sessions like LVOP etc etc?

its been about 5 years since my last full type but that was on a smaller jet guess im getting old lol.

any response is welcomed or perhaps a pm which ever is more suitable

[Timetoflyagain]

Hi..first..welcome…and second..yes, the E2 training in Europe is supposed to follow the Porter SOP’s however the instructors are not Porter and have varying levels of success following them. About 2/3rds of your sim will be in Europe, the last bit in YYZ with Porter instructors to clean up and recommend before the ride. The day after the PPC is LOFT day, non-jeopardy and then you should have anywhere between a few days to a few weeks off depending on how backed up training is. Sprinkle a jumpseat day or two in the mix.
Good luck!

[cjp]

Good afternoon fellow aviators, its my first time posting here and I tried earlier but for some reason I cant find it. Well perhaps this section will work.
I have recently gotten an email from the company and looks like some training may happen in europe.

My question is about the sim training, are the same SOP's done even if we do any training in europe? or do we come back and do some sort of Sop harmonization since the type rating out side may be done with regular instructors and NOT Porter instructors.

last question, once one gets thru the PPC check ride assuming with no major hiccups is that it for sim can we head back to get some needed rest or are they any additional sim sessions like LVOP etc etc?

its been about 5 years since my last full type but that was on a smaller jet guess im getting old lol.

any response is welcomed or perhaps a pm which ever is more suitable

Ground training, including the graphical flight sim is done either at home or in Toronto.

If you do sim in Europe, they have been refining who is teaching those sessions, which encompasses a stricter focus on SOPs. You do up to 6 sessions abroad, and come home for the last 3.

Then it's PPC and no jeapordy LOFT (which is actually a lot of fun).

No tricks.

[namngm]

Thank you for all your replies, so abit of a mixed scenario if Sim is done in Europe.

With ground training what is graphical sim? Is that some sort of fixed based sim or something?

[cjp]

Thank you for all your replies, so abit of a mixed scenario if Sim is done in Europe.

With ground training what is graphical sim? Is that some sort of fixed based sim or something?

IPT - procedures training. It's an all screen static trainer. 5 sessions IIRC. This is where your flows and SOPs are sharpened before sim. There are no physical controls except FMS, CCDs, and FGP, so it reinforces the FGP and FMA interaction.