Adverse Reactions Poll

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Do you, or know anyone who:

took 1 or more c-jabs and suffered injury or death, with or without correlation and causality since 2021?
10
11%
suffered mild adverse reaction
11
12%
suffered major adverse reaction
9
10%
Took 4 shots and feel fine
32
36%
died (If YOU died and are still replying to avcanada polls....well...:shock:)
6
7%
lost your or their aviation medical since 2021
5
6%
did not inject
17
19%
 
Total votes: 90

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I was demonized by users and moderators alike for my knowledge on the C-mandates and experimental mRNA injections. Unfortunately some, if not many, have had to come to realize the unlawful and subsequently illegal nature of the corporate policies that were rammed down our throats. I am interested how many on this forum have been directly or indirectly affected by these.
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JerryRig wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:36 pm I was demonized by users and moderators alike for my knowledge on the C-mandates and experimental mRNA injections.
I didn’t see an any “knowledge” of C mandates or mRNA injections on any of your numerous posts. Knowledge implies that you can state and defend a fact based opinion. I saw lots of opinions but no facts.

Before getting my first shot I did a lot of research. As someone who holds a University Biology degree I felt I could evaluate the raw data and reach an informed opinion. Like most rapidly evolving situations there was some conflicting data and changes in public health recommendations as the COVID virus became better understood.

No vaccine will be perfectly safe as human variability will cause some adverse reactions on edge of the bell curve subjects when millions of doses are being given. Indeed the lack of any adverse effects is a powerful indicator the vaccine is ineffective.

However there was overwhelming consensus on several issues. Any person was much more likely to suffer severe adverse medical events from COVID than from the vaccine. The FACT was that ICU admissions from the effects of COVID were overwhelmingly (90%) comprised of unvaccinated patients even though they represented a small and decreasing proportion of the population.

There was also early understanding that the vaccine would not necessarily stop you from getting COVID but it was very effective at stopping you from getting so sick you needed to go to hospital.

Jerry, I fully realize you are so invested I your conspiracy theories that nothing I can say will change your mind, but I do ask other readers to look at both sides of the argument which includes in equal measure supporters and detractors of the COVID vaccine before making up your mind. I looked at a what a lot of the vaccine deniers were saying and found all of it unconvincing.
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Where is the option for I took 4 shots and feel fine?
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Big Pistons Forever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:25 pm
JerryRig wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:36 pm I was demonized by users and moderators alike for my knowledge on the C-mandates and experimental mRNA injections.
I didn’t see an any “knowledge” of C mandates or mRNA injections on any of your numerous posts. Knowledge implies that you can state and defend a fact based opinion. I saw lots of opinions but no facts.

Before getting my first shot I did a lot of research. As someone who holds a University Biology degree I felt I could evaluate the raw data and reach an informed opinion. Like most rapidly evolving situations there was some conflicting data and changes in public health recommendations as the COVID virus became better understood.

No vaccine will be perfectly safe as human variability will cause some adverse reactions on edge of the bell curve subjects when millions of doses are being given. Indeed the lack of any adverse effects is a powerful indicator the vaccine is ineffective.

However there was overwhelming consensus on several issues. Any person was much more likely to suffer severe adverse medical events from COVID than from the vaccine. The FACT was that ICU admissions from the effects of COVID were overwhelmingly (90%) comprised of unvaccinated patients even though they represented a small and decreasing proportion of the population.

There was also early understanding that the vaccine would not necessarily stop you from getting COVID but it was very effective at stopping you from getting so sick you needed to go to hospital.

Jerry, I fully realize you are so invested I your conspiracy theories that nothing I can say will change your mind, but I do ask other readers to look at both sides of the argument which includes in equal measure supporters and detractors of the COVID vaccine before making up your mind. I looked at a what a lot of the vaccine deniers were saying and found all of it unconvincing.
Horrible assessment, especially from someone with a "University Biology Degree." A fifth grader could easily tear this diatribe apart, especially now, 4 years after the jab roll out. The easiest target would be this one:

"There was also early understanding that the vaccine would not necessarily stop you from getting COVID but it was very effective at stopping you from getting so sick you needed to go to hospital."

That is just patently false. An absolute re-write of history. Pzifer's own EUA application to the FDA proves that to be incorrect, and you don't have to tune into InfoWars to get that information; it's on the FDA website where Pfizer boasts "stopping transmission" and "being >99.5% effective." So in Pfizer and the FDA's own assessment, you get an F on your research. Not to mention Fauci, Tam, and every politician and public health official publicly stating that the vaccine would "stop transmission ." This isn't fringe conspiracy either. It's well-documented and in the public domain.

But then again, I don't have a "University Biology Degree." 😆

I know, you may find it shocking that a multi-billion dollar corporation, such as Pfizer, and the government lied to you. It's shocking. This has never happened before....no, wait. Yes, it has. The only difference, you fell for it this time. Don't beat yourself up though, a lot of people fell for it.

Look up Purdue Pharma and the OxyContin criminal conspiracy. You'll notice similarities that would enrage anyone who fell for this scam. Corporate and FDA collision, capture of the medical institutions, and media influence. Purdue Pharma language such as "breakthrough pain" and "double the dose" became Pfizer language, like, "breakthrough infection" and "booster shots." It's a formula that worked then and worked again. You were scammed.
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JustaCanadian wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:57 pm Where is the option for I took 4 shots and feel fine?
So you're the one. 😁
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J Roc wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:26 pm
JustaCanadian wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:57 pm Where is the option for I took 4 shots and feel fine?
So you're the one. 😁
No, it's most of the population. We look at the evidence, see that it's effective, get the vaccination, and then pretty much forget about covid and get on with our lives. It's only people like you who are eternally ranting on about it.
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4 shots. Feeling fine, and so are my kids. Don't know anyone who has had an adverse reaction beyond a sore arm.
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Don’t feed the trolls, Covid happened nearly a decade ago. I still can’t seem to get my 5G working correctly from the chip in my arm. Did they not push the needle in far enough? Or maybe I got a faulty needle (4 times) and the tip never broke off? I had a lot of great info Bill and Melinda could have utilized. Guess I’ll settle on my LTE signal.


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CpnCrunch wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:50 pm
J Roc wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:26 pm
JustaCanadian wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:57 pm Where is the option for I took 4 shots and feel fine?
So you're the one. 😁
No, it's most of the population. We look at the evidence, see that it's effective, get the vaccination, and then pretty much forget about covid and get on with our lives. It's only people like you who are eternally ranting on about it.
"Most of the population" have 4 shots??? My lord...

Your Math isn't much better than Mr. "University Biology Degrees" research. 😆
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:21 pm 4 shots. Feeling fine, and so are my kids. Don't know anyone who has had an adverse reaction beyond a sore arm.
All jokes aside, I am truly happy that you and your family are feeling fine. Truly, I am; only a psychopath would wish harm on another human traveler.

Someone very close to me experienced a horrible neurological side effect from one shot. So bad that it was reported to the VAERS by their GP. To this day, this person has flare-ups. Wild neurological issues; lost speech, lost mobility, searing burning sensations throughout their body. It's very real. In like a lion, out like a lamb kind of flare-ups. It makes this person very scared. I sat with this person and watched them weep over what had happened, and the fear of what may come.

I understand that people have suffered from COVID, and I don't make light of that, but to suggest that people haven't suffered from the shot, or the mandates, is boldly ignorant.
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FND? You know that has nothing to do with the vaccine itself?
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J Roc wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:20 pm
Bingo Fuel wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:21 pm 4 shots. Feeling fine, and so are my kids. Don't know anyone who has had an adverse reaction beyond a sore arm.
All jokes aside, I am truly happy that you and your family are feeling fine. Truly, I am; only a psychopath would wish harm on another human traveler.

Someone very close to me experienced a horrible neurological side effect from one shot. So bad that it was reported to the VAERS by their GP. To this day, this person has flare-ups. Wild neurological issues; lost speech, lost mobility, searing burning sensations throughout their body. It's very real. In like a lion, out like a lamb kind of flare-ups. It makes this person very scared. I sat with this person and watched them weep over what had happened, and the fear of what may come.

I understand that people have suffered from COVID, and I don't make light of that, but to suggest that people haven't suffered from the shot, or the mandates, is boldly ignorant.
I'm sorry for your friend. I hope they get the help they need. That must have been tough.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:36 pm FND? You know that has nothing to do with the vaccine itself?

The neurological issues were listed as an adverse event on the VAERS, by this persons GP. So yeah, it has everything to do with the vaccine. Also, neurological events were included, by Pfzier, in the 9 pages of side effects. That's a Pfizer document btw, not some fringe publication.

Would you be so bold to this persons face? When they're obviously suffering? Are you that bold? That much of a prick?? I mean, this didn't happen to me. I'm 100% healthy. 100% healthy after catching COVID, but would never mock a person who experienced a severe outcome from COVID. Also, 100% healthy after not getting a jab, and I wouldn't dare diminish a person suffering from a vaccine injury. That takes a special kind of cruelty that I don't possess.

Whether you like it or not, some people are injured from the shot, and some people are not. The point is, we were lied to about the efficacy and safety of the shot.

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Bingo Fuel wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:43 pm
J Roc wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:20 pm
Bingo Fuel wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:21 pm 4 shots. Feeling fine, and so are my kids. Don't know anyone who has had an adverse reaction beyond a sore arm.
All jokes aside, I am truly happy that you and your family are feeling fine. Truly, I am; only a psychopath would wish harm on another human traveler.

Someone very close to me experienced a horrible neurological side effect from one shot. So bad that it was reported to the VAERS by their GP. To this day, this person has flare-ups. Wild neurological issues; lost speech, lost mobility, searing burning sensations throughout their body. It's very real. In like a lion, out like a lamb kind of flare-ups. It makes this person very scared. I sat with this person and watched them weep over what had happened, and the fear of what may come.

I understand that people have suffered from COVID, and I don't make light of that, but to suggest that people haven't suffered from the shot, or the mandates, is boldly ignorant.
I'm sorry for your friend. I hope they get the help they need. That must have been tough.
A human response; thank you for your kind words. Like I said, this didn't happen to me, and I shouldn't say more than I have, especially on AvCanada. However, it's family, and hurts to see them suffer. The doctors don't seem to have any answers, which makes it worse.
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There is almost nothing in life that is totally risk free. The COVID shot is no exception. When you give hundreds of millions of people a vaccine it is sadly but realistically inevitable that some people will have adverse reactions including very serious ones.

So the question for me is what is the risk vs reward of getting any vaccine not just the COVID shot. Based on actual total population data it was clear to me the benefits of the COVID vaccine was overwhelmingly higher than the risks.

The problem with the anti vaxer approach is they cherry pick the exceptions and then extrapolate that across the whole population. The is exacerbated by inputting causation when the evidence is empirical at best.

The COVID vaccine literally saved millions of lives, but that doesn’t matter to the anti vaxers if it may have resulted in a serious adverse outcome to a handful of vaccine recipients.

My advice to the anti vaxers is to go talk to someone who is 90 years old and ask them what life was like before the widespread availability of vaccines. Be careful what you wish for you just may get us back to the time when people died or were permanently disabled by diseases that are not virtually wiped out by widespread population vaccinations.
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Zero adverse reactions, beyond the standard sore arm that every vaccination gives. Up to five doses now, and with zero reactions (albeit rather lacklustre 5G and telepathic ability) I'll carry on with my subscription for the time being. Hopefully the next update fixes the reception issues... :roll:

Having said all that, COVID caused multiple fatalities in my extended family as well as in families of friends and acquaintances. Same goes for long lasting adverse physical and psychological issues, which COVID infections caused. Not to mention the individuals with long COVID that are now on EI, or LTD due to their inability to work post-infection. Before the usual suspects jump in claiming the long COVID was an adverse reaction to the vaccine(s), they were infected prior to vaccine rollout.
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Big Pistons Forever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:27 pm

The problem with the anti vaxer approach is they cherry pick the exceptions and then extrapolate that across the whole population.
The same could be said for the COVID hysteria.
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Big Pistons Forever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:25 pm
JerryRig wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:36 pm I was demonized by users and moderators alike for my knowledge on the C-mandates and experimental mRNA injections.
I didn’t see an any “knowledge” of C mandates or mRNA injections on any of your numerous posts. Knowledge implies that you can state and defend a fact based opinion. I saw lots of opinions but no facts.

Before getting my first shot I did a lot of research. As someone who holds a University Biology degree I felt I could evaluate the raw data and reach an informed opinion. Like most rapidly evolving situations there was some conflicting data and changes in public health recommendations as the COVID virus became better understood.

No vaccine will be perfectly safe as human variability will cause some adverse reactions on edge of the bell curve subjects when millions of doses are being given. Indeed the lack of any adverse effects is a powerful indicator the vaccine is ineffective.

However there was overwhelming consensus on several issues. Any person was much more likely to suffer severe adverse medical events from COVID than from the vaccine. The FACT was that ICU admissions from the effects of COVID were overwhelmingly (90%) comprised of unvaccinated patients even though they represented a small and decreasing proportion of the population.

There was also early understanding that the vaccine would not necessarily stop you from getting COVID but it was very effective at stopping you from getting so sick you needed to go to hospital.

Jerry, I fully realize you are so invested I your conspiracy theories that nothing I can say will change your mind, but I do ask other readers to look at both sides of the argument which includes in equal measure supporters and detractors of the COVID vaccine before making up your mind. I looked at a what a lot of the vaccine deniers were saying and found all of it unconvincing.
Why is dead due to “unknown” causes the the highest cause of death since 2021. Why are there so many adverse reactions. Heck even Pfizer admitted the product that was distributed is not the product that was approved even under emergency authorized use AND they maintain these don’t prevent infection or transmission. The government on the other hand were the parties via paid media that erroneously claimed they were. And I don’t understand what is a vaccine denier. I don’t deny vaccines but this ain’t one under the traditional definition of utilizing neutralized sample from a human. This stuff is synthetic.
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JustaCanadian wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:57 pm Where is the option for I took 4 shots and feel fine?
Added. 😃
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There seems to be many adverse reactions both on here and in the general public being erroneous identified as Covid. Part of this is due to testing that gives false positives. This has been realized now by health authorities and are discontinuing the procedure.
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J Roc wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:54 pm

The neurological issues were listed as an adverse event on the VAERS, by this persons GP. So yeah, it has everything to do with the vaccine. Also, neurological events were included, by Pfzier, in the 9 pages of side effects. That's a Pfizer document btw, not some fringe publication.

Would you be so bold to this persons face? When they're obviously suffering? Are you that bold? That much of a prick?? I mean, this didn't happen to me. I'm 100% healthy. 100% healthy after catching COVID, but would never mock a person who experienced a severe outcome from COVID. Also, 100% healthy after not getting a jab, and I wouldn't dare diminish a person suffering from a vaccine injury. That takes a special kind of cruelty that I don't possess.

Whether you like it or not, some people are injured from the shot, and some people are not. The point is, we were lied to about the efficacy and safety of the shot.

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No gp knows the exact cause of neurological symptoms. What is the breakdown of placebo vs vaccine for those symptoms?

You clearly have no clue about the seriousness of fnd. Please educate yourself.
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J Roc wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:26 pm
JustaCanadian wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:57 pm Where is the option for I took 4 shots and feel fine?
So you're the one. 😁
It’s lots of us.
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Just a note on “long covid”. This term didn’t exist until AFTER the shots rolled out, so is long covid due to the shots? This needs investigation. I propose this is adverse reaction.
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JerryRig wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:36 pm I was demonized by users and moderators alike for my knowledge on the C-mandates and experimental mRNA injections. Unfortunately some, if not many, have had to come to realize the unlawful and subsequently illegal nature of the corporate policies that were rammed down our throats. I am interested how many on this forum have been directly or indirectly affected by these.
Are you still hurting that people were annoyed with you for constantly spreading misinformation.

Congratulations for not getting vaccinated. Here is your medal:

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