Adverse Reactions Poll

[J Roc]

OMFG.

Planes don't work. I know someone who crashed their plane. They don't work.

Was it an experimental plane?

[Inverted2]

Vaccines don’t work. I know a woman who’s had more jabs than a junkie in the Byward Market who has covid. I also know unvaxxed purebloods who have had covid and the severity was no worse for one another.

OMFG.

Planes don't work. I know someone who crashed their plane. They don't work.

Let me correct that, most vaccines work like polio, smallpox, malaria etc. You do not get those diseases if you get those vaccines. This one however does not stop you from getting the vid or transmitting it so is it really a vaccine?

[CpnCrunch]

Let me correct that, most vaccines work like polio, smallpox, malaria etc. You do not get those diseases if you get those vaccines. This one however does not stop you from getting the vid or transmitting it so is it really a vaccine?

Those viruses you listed don't mutate. The covid vaccine is similar to flu, which is about 50% effective at stopping transmission because it mutates so quickly and there are so many variants. Which is better: 50% protection or 0%?

[Inverted2]

Well it’s basically a cold now so if you’re all that concerned about it, vax yourself to the max but be respectful of those who chose not to take it. That’s been my stance all along. I don’t care if anyone takes it but it should not have been forced upon us like it was.

[JustaCanadian]

Vaccines don’t work. I know a woman who’s had more jabs than a junkie in the Byward Market who has covid. I also know unvaxxed purebloods who have had covid and the severity was no worse for one another.

OMFG.

Planes don't work. I know someone who crashed their plane. They don't work.

Let me correct that, most vaccines work like polio, smallpox, malaria etc. You do not get those diseases if you get those vaccines. This one however does not stop you from getting the vid or transmitting it so is it really a vaccine?

I am actually curious something.

Is the polio vaccine very effective because it has incredible efficacy, or is a large part of how effective it is just that the disease is virtually eradicated where we live. If 20 percent of our population had polio, and everyone else was vaccinated, how many vaccinated people would catch polio?

The covid vaccine would “feel” so much more effective if there was just way less covid going around. Seems rather difficult to measure the covid vaccine efficacy when many people with the vaccine, experience similar severity and symptoms of those without it. Almost like genetics, age, overall health etc are a larger factor in determining covid outcomes rather than vaccine status. This is why I thought it was ridiculous to demand college an uni students who are so young take this vaccine.

[JustaCanadian]

Well it’s basically a cold now so if you’re all that concerned about it, vax yourself to the max but be respectful of those who chose not to take it. That’s been my stance all along. I don’t care if anyone takes it but it should not have been forced upon us like it was.

Such a rational thought. No space for this in todays world… you need to pick a side and take it to the next level

How many people today are more vaccine hesitant? I know new parents who don’t want their kids to take the “traditional” rounds of vaccines because the nuts who demanded vax passports. It’s not rational, but this is a consequence of government actions. Maybe it’s their goal to make things worse… good job!

[JustaCanadian]

Those viruses you listed don't mutate. The covid vaccine is similar to flu, which is about 50% effective at stopping transmission because it mutates so quickly and there are so many variants. Which is better: 50% protection or 0%?

You need to answer three questions, it’s not only about how effective a vaccine is.

How safe is the vaccine
How effective is the vaccine
How dangerous is the disease

“Which is better” depends on the answer of the three points above. Unfortunately our government just said “safe, effective and dangerous! You must take it!!!” Which was not necessarily accurate for everyone. We know some people got injured from the vaccine, we know some people took the vaccine and still died from Covid, and we know some people, covid was like a mild cold. I think this stresses the importance of having personal choice and a strong medical community of doctors to support us on these decisions. Rather than tyrant politicians who likely had motives that had nothing to do with the health of our nation.

[JerryRig]

Each to their own. It's too bad unbiased moderation has become an oxymoron. Thank you for not locking me out like another moderator did of whom I've yet to receive an apology for.

A recent photo of JerryRig

Does this make you feel better about yourself? Do you feel superior now that you think you have ridiculed me? Did your copilot hurt you that bad? Jeepers, and to think they thought you were mature . I don’t remember ridiculing you.

[dontcallmeshirley]

Does this make you feel better about yourself? Do you feel superior now that you think you have ridiculed me? Did your copilot hurt you that bad? Jeepers, and to think they thought you were mature . I don’t remember ridiculing you.

This has nothing to do with myself. I am making fun of you like a schoolyard bully makes fun of the stupid kid.

We've tried correcting you with evidence from doctors and scientists. We tried ignoring you. I've decided that neither are working well for me, so I'm going to laugh at you.

And just in case you didn't get it... it's Snowflake Jerry wearing his tin foil hat.

[kgb531]

Those viruses you listed don't mutate. The covid vaccine is similar to flu, which is about 50% effective at stopping transmission because it mutates so quickly and there are so many variants. Which is better: 50% protection or 0%?

You need to answer three questions, it’s not only about how effective a vaccine is.

How safe is the vaccine
How effective is the vaccine
How dangerous is the disease

“Which is better” depends on the answer of the three points above. Unfortunately our government just said “safe, effective and dangerous! You must take it!!!” Which was not necessarily accurate for everyone. We know some people got injured from the vaccine, we know some people took the vaccine and still died from Covid, and we know some people, covid was like a mild cold. I think this stresses the importance of having personal choice and a strong medical community of doctors to support us on these decisions. Rather than tyrant politicians who likely had motives that had nothing to do with the health of our nation.

You always had personal choice. You just didn't like the consequences of those choices.
The strong medical community does not exist to support your decisions. It exists to support the populous in regards to healthcare.
When a general practitioner does not possess the requisite, expert educational background and expertise, how does the layman? Studies and papers on virology/immunology/epidemiology/pharmacology are not written for non-experts. They are written for peers (not family physicians or English nurses with a YouTube channel).

105M+ doses given thus far in Canada.

Safety: 0.01% chance of an adverse reaction greater than mild. 1 in 1.296M chance of death (including deaths that occured up to 113 days after vaccination that could not be causily linked to the actual vaccination).
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... NonSerious)

Effectiveness: Ontario Ministry of Health's Public Health Office website showed ICU bed rates for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated made it quite clear that the unvaccinated were overpresented in ICU's and hospital beds by a factor of 2.5-4x.
(https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario ... tionstatus)

Danger: >55K deaths where covid was the cause or a contributing factor.
>250K hospitalizations for covid.
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... ation.html)

[JerryRig]

Those viruses you listed don't mutate. The covid vaccine is similar to flu, which is about 50% effective at stopping transmission because it mutates so quickly and there are so many variants. Which is better: 50% protection or 0%?

You need to answer three questions, it’s not only about how effective a vaccine is.

How safe is the vaccine
How effective is the vaccine
How dangerous is the disease

“Which is better” depends on the answer of the three points above. Unfortunately our government just said “safe, effective and dangerous! You must take it!!!” Which was not necessarily accurate for everyone. We know some people got injured from the vaccine, we know some people took the vaccine and still died from Covid, and we know some people, covid was like a mild cold. I think this stresses the importance of having personal choice and a strong medical community of doctors to support us on these decisions. Rather than tyrant politicians who likely had motives that had nothing to do with the health of our nation.

You always had personal choice. You just didn't like the consequences of those choices.
The strong medical community does not exist to support your decisions. It exists to support the populous in regards to healthcare.
When a general practitioner does not possess the requisite, expert educational background and expertise, how does the layman? Studies and papers on virology/immunology/epidemiology/pharmacology are not written for non-experts. They are written for peers (not family physicians or English nurses with a YouTube channel).

105M+ doses given thus far in Canada.

Safety: 0.01% chance of an adverse reaction greater than mild. 1 in 1.296M chance of death (including deaths that occured up to 113 days after vaccination that could not be causily linked to the actual vaccination).
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... NonSerious)

Effectiveness: Ontario Ministry of Health's Public Health Office website showed ICU bed rates for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated made it quite clear that the unvaccinated were overpresented in ICU's and hospital beds by a factor of 2.5-4x.
(https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario ... tionstatus)

Danger: >55K deaths where covid was the cause or a contributing factor.
>250K hospitalizations for covid.
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... ation.html)

There was a time that you could trust statistics posted on a government website. But the data on these in this scamdemic are erroneous. There will be consequences for that government. It's happening now. There will be cognitive dissonance.

[JerryRig]

Pascal Najadi, the son of WEF co-founder Hussain Najadi, is calling for the arrests of Bill Gates, WHO leadership, the WEF, Klaus Schwab, Big Tech and Pfizer.

He says he and his mother are now dying from the vaccine, which he calls “poison”.

https://x.com/BenSwann_/status/1717978443747328129?s=20

[TG]

Well it's a fact that at one point, zero Canadians were wearing seat belts and 100 percent of road accident people in hospital were not wearing seat belt, and then at some point the majority of people were wearing seat belts, and eventually most people were. The along this timeline eventually the majority of people in hospitals were also people wearing seat belts.

Funny how that works.

Corrected that for you...Although I do not expect you to comprehend why.

This weird fear monger of vaccination would be called witchcraft or heresy during Medieval time.
With the crowd yelling "burn them at the stake!"



I'll stick to the 21st century thanks!

[JustaCanadian]

Oh wow. Sorry to hear you are just as outraged about people not wearing seatbelts TG. Should we freeze thier bank accounts? I know a nurse in ICU and he said the ICU is full of people who don't wear seatbelts, and because of that everyone's surgery is delayed!

[Aviatard]

Oh wow. Sorry to hear you are just as outraged about people not wearing seatbelts TG. Should we freeze thier bank accounts? I know a nurse in ICU and he said the ICU is full of people who don't wear seatbelts, and because of that everyone's surgery is delayed!

Whoosh

[Big Pistons Forever]

You need to answer three questions, it’s not only about how effective a vaccine is.

How safe is the vaccine
How effective is the vaccine
How dangerous is the disease

“Which is better” depends on the answer of the three points above. Unfortunately our government just said “safe, effective and dangerous! You must take it!!!” Which was not necessarily accurate for everyone. We know some people got injured from the vaccine, we know some people took the vaccine and still died from Covid, and we know some people, covid was like a mild cold. I think this stresses the importance of having personal choice and a strong medical community of doctors to support us on these decisions. Rather than tyrant politicians who likely had motives that had nothing to do with the health of our nation.

You always had personal choice. You just didn't like the consequences of those choices.
The strong medical community does not exist to support your decisions. It exists to support the populous in regards to healthcare.
When a general practitioner does not possess the requisite, expert educational background and expertise, how does the layman? Studies and papers on virology/immunology/epidemiology/pharmacology are not written for non-experts. They are written for peers (not family physicians or English nurses with a YouTube channel).

105M+ doses given thus far in Canada.

Safety: 0.01% chance of an adverse reaction greater than mild. 1 in 1.296M chance of death (including deaths that occured up to 113 days after vaccination that could not be causily linked to the actual vaccination).
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... NonSerious)

Effectiveness: Ontario Ministry of Health's Public Health Office website showed ICU bed rates for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated made it quite clear that the unvaccinated were overpresented in ICU's and hospital beds by a factor of 2.5-4x.
(https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario ... tionstatus)

Danger: >55K deaths where covid was the cause or a contributing factor.
>250K hospitalizations for covid.
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... ation.html)

There was a time that you could trust statistics posted on a government website. But the data on these in this scamdemic are erroneous. There will be consequences for that government. It's happening now. There will be cognitive dissonance.

There is lots of cognitive dissonance out there, starting with basically everything you write.....

[JerryRig]

Well it's a fact that at one point, zero Canadians were wearing seat belts and 100 percent of road accident people in hospital were not wearing seat belt, and then at some point the majority of people were wearing seat belts, and eventually most people were. The along this timeline eventually the majority of people in hospitals were also people wearing seat belts.

Funny how that works.

Corrected that for you...Although I do not expect you to comprehend why.

This weird fear monger of vaccination would be called witchcraft or heresy during Medieval time.
With the crowd yelling "burn them at the stake!"



I'll stick to the 21st century thanks!

Actually, this DID happen. The TV AND your "prime minister" ACTUALLY said we are to fear the unvaccinated. That's how this all got started.
Then the people said: "NO!"

[JerryRig]

There is lots of cognitive dissonance out there, starting with basically everything you write.....

It's ok. Eventually you will come to see and seek the truth. I know it's difficult to come to terms with.

[Bingo Fuel]

105M+ doses given thus far in Canada.

Safety: 0.01% chance of an adverse reaction greater than mild. 1 in 1.296M chance of death (including deaths that occured up to 113 days after vaccination that could not be causily linked to the actual vaccination).
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... NonSerious)

Effectiveness: Ontario Ministry of Health's Public Health Office website showed ICU bed rates for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated made it quite clear that the unvaccinated were overpresented in ICU's and hospital beds by a factor of 2.5-4x.
(https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario ... tionstatus)

Danger: >55K deaths where covid was the cause or a contributing factor.
>250K hospitalizations for covid.
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... ation.html)

That's one reality. In the other reality, COVID had a "99.97% survival rate", and was "just a cold". We're all likely going to catch it, but it's nothing to be afraid of, they said.

The vaccine had no benefit in this alternate information bubble, and apparently will kill 1 in 800. Which, if true, is a 99.875% survival rate. Supposedly we should be afraid of the vaccine, but not of the disease.

Everyone made up their minds years ago. You can't convince someone to switch realities.

[JerryRig]

105M+ doses given thus far in Canada.

Safety: 0.01% chance of an adverse reaction greater than mild. 1 in 1.296M chance of death (including deaths that occured up to 113 days after vaccination that could not be causily linked to the actual vaccination).
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... NonSerious)

Effectiveness: Ontario Ministry of Health's Public Health Office website showed ICU bed rates for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated made it quite clear that the unvaccinated were overpresented in ICU's and hospital beds by a factor of 2.5-4x.
(https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario ... tionstatus)

Danger: >55K deaths where covid was the cause or a contributing factor.
>250K hospitalizations for covid.
(https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... ation.html)

That's one reality. In the other reality, COVID had a "99.97% survival rate", and was "just a cold". We're all likely going to catch it, but it's nothing to be afraid of, they said.

The vaccine had no benefit in this alternate information bubble, and apparently will kill 1 in 800. Which, if true, is a 99.875% survival rate. Supposedly we should be afraid of the vaccine, but not of the disease.

Everyone made up their minds years ago. You can't convince someone to switch realities.

This is all true, but the inference is incorrect. The virus (if there was a virus, and not something else), is survivable if you have a healthy immune system. Those who life at hight latitudes and are Vitamin D deficient are more susceptible, not absolutely, but statistically greater. There are known remedies that are proven to reduce or prevent an infection. On top of this is the erroneous belief that one can be asymptomatic.

The 1 in 800 is incorrectly assessed, which is how untrained public reps spun this lie. It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die. So are you willing to take that chance? The reason why it's not drawing enough attention is that in a large room of 400 to 800 people, one dying is to easily written off as "oh that was going to happen anyway. Until the person dying started becoming younger and younger and athletes and doctors and teenagers and now babies and pre-born are being affected. Eventually you have to start asking WTF? Over? Mothers are aborting more, and sterilization is becoming more prevalent. One has to ask oneself what is really going on. BTW Bill Gates is the largest contributor to the World Health Organization and his father was a eugenist. He is also founder of GAVI and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. These are facts. look it up. There is also a Ted Talk he gave telling the world of his intention to do a real good job on vaccination to reduce the worlds population by 10-15%. You can't make this stuff up.

[Sulako]

You're literally making things up in your post.

It vexes me when people use words like 'exponentially' without knowing what the word means.

For example, this little brown runny gem: "It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die."

You do yourself a real disservice by saying stuff like that.

Then again, you literally think every country in the world has decided to operate in perfect harmony on this issue.

Are you telling me that the governing bodies of every country in the world are together on this? That doesn't sound correct. Covid vaccines are made and available in every country in the world. Last time I checked, lots of countries have really different political opinions and it defies belief that all the doctors in the world are being told to lie to keep their licences with no pushback.

Yes. The narrative was in unison. I watched it real time. "We are all in this together" wasn't an encouragement to the viewers, it was an admition of the perpetrators.

I still can't get over this post; it haunts me that someone who might have access to an aircraft thinks this way.

[cdnavater]

You're literally making things up in your post.

It vexes me when people use words like 'exponentially' without knowing what the word means.

For example, this little brown runny gem: "It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die."

You do yourself a real disservice by saying stuff like that.

Then again, you literally think every country in the world has decided to operate in perfect harmony on this issue.

Are you telling me that the governing bodies of every country in the world are together on this? That doesn't sound correct. Covid vaccines are made and available in every country in the world. Last time I checked, lots of countries have really different political opinions and it defies belief that all the doctors in the world are being told to lie to keep their licences with no pushback.

Yes. The narrative was in unison. I watched it real time. "We are all in this together" wasn't an encouragement to the viewers, it was an admition of the perpetrators.

I still can't get over this post; it haunts me that someone who might have access to an aircraft thinks this way.

I’m willing to bet JerryRig also thinks September 11 was an inside job and the Maui fires were from space lasers

[JerryRig]

You're literally making things up in your post.

It vexes me when people use words like 'exponentially' without knowing what the word means.

For example, this little brown runny gem: "It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die."

You do yourself a real disservice by saying stuff like that.

Then again, you literally think every country in the world has decided to operate in perfect harmony on this issue.

Yes. The narrative was in unison. I watched it real time. "We are all in this together" wasn't an encouragement to the viewers, it was an admition of the perpetrators.

I still can't get over this post; it haunts me that someone who might have access to an aircraft thinks this way.

I’m willing to bet JerryRig also thinks September 11 was an inside job and the Maui fires were from space lasers

Yes to the former (building seven)

Not sure or Unlikely to the latter, but I don’t have enough knowledge to ascertain.

And. No there are no such thing as “chemtrails”, BUT cloud seeding DOES happen using silver iodide applied INSIDE developing TCU and cumulonimbus so you never see that activity.

Any other questions?

[cdnavater]

You're literally making things up in your post.

It vexes me when people use words like 'exponentially' without knowing what the word means.

For example, this little brown runny gem: "It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die."

You do yourself a real disservice by saying stuff like that.

Then again, you literally think every country in the world has decided to operate in perfect harmony on this issue.



I still can't get over this post; it haunts me that someone who might have access to an aircraft thinks this way.

I’m willing to bet JerryRig also thinks September 11 was an inside job and the Maui fires were from space lasers

Yes to the former (building seven)

Not sure or Unlikely to the latter, but I don’t have enough knowledge to ascertain.

And. No there are no such thing as “chemtrails”, BUT cloud seeding DOES happen using silver iodide applied INSIDE developing TCU and cumulonimbus so you never see that activity.

Any other questions?

Yep

[Bingo Fuel]

That's one reality. In the other reality, COVID had a "99.97% survival rate", and was "just a cold". We're all likely going to catch it, but it's nothing to be afraid of, they said.

The vaccine had no benefit in this alternate information bubble, and apparently will kill 1 in 800. Which, if true, is a 99.875% survival rate. Supposedly we should be afraid of the vaccine, but not of the disease.

Everyone made up their minds years ago. You can't convince someone to switch realities.

The 1 in 800 is incorrectly assessed, which is how untrained public reps spun this lie. It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die. So are you willing to take that chance? The reason why it's not drawing enough attention is that in a large room of 400 to 800 people, one dying is to easily written off as "oh that was going to happen anyway. Until the person dying started becoming younger and younger and athletes and doctors and teenagers and now babies and pre-born are being affected.

Jerry's COVID survival rate: 99.97%
1 dose: 1 in 800 = 99.875%
2 doses: 1 in 600 = 99.83%
3 doses: 1 in 400 = 99.75%

Jerry's two dose fatality figures are only 0.13% different from his own COVID death figure.

FYI, infants and pregnant mothers are also considered high risk for COVID.