Is the ACPA Motto: "We will get'em next time" gone?

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Re: Is the ACPA Motto: "We will get'em next time" gone?

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Transition9er2 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 am I’ve been struggling with understanding “why” the company agreed to this mediation piece. It seemed like things were going as per their playbook and they were getting what they wanted, but then agreed to mediation… why?

The only thing I can think of is they played their hand too aggressively and too early in order to save “summer”.

When ALPA presented the option of bringing in Kaplan they essentially hit the reset button in a way. IF the company refused mediation and continued to push us towards an impasse, they would look incredibly bad in the eyes of government when they inevitably would be brought in. They would essentially remove all credibility when they try to push govt into forcing us into an agreement or back to work. So in essence they theoretically had to accept mediation.

The table has been completely reset now, and it’s heavily favoured towards the pilots. The company really only has 3 options:

- Negotiate without delay and get a deal done by June (great option for the pilot group)
- Do the bare minimum to delay a deal post June (significant risk of Kaplan calling them out and declaring an impasse earlier than June. HUGE RISK to damaging summer sched due to strike… great for pilot group)
- Do just enough to keep everyone happy and extend negots beyond June. (Great for pilot group as this would mean changes to the sh!tty contract are likely being made)

As I said, I really struggled with understanding this announcement, but I think I’m looking at this correctly… I think.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m beginning to see more and more signs that the company has been completely caught off guard by ALPA and ALPA is now playing the company’s game back at them, and playing it much better.
It’s a bit more deep than the superficial “Shark Tank” negotiation…yet some people want the negotiations done in 5 minutes…
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Re: Is the ACPA Motto: "We will get'em next time" gone?

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Blueontop wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:24 pm
PostmasterGeneral wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:58 am
Transition9er2 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 am I’ve been struggling with understanding “why” the company agreed to this mediation piece. It seemed like things were going as per their playbook and they were getting what they wanted, but then agreed to mediation… why?

The only thing I can think of is they played their hand too aggressively and too early in order to save “summer”.

When ALPA presented the option of bringing in Kaplan they essentially hit the reset button in a way. IF the company refused mediation and continued to push us towards an impasse, they would look incredibly bad in the eyes of government when they inevitably would be brought in. They would essentially remove all credibility when they try to push govt into forcing us into an agreement or back to work. So in essence they theoretically had to accept mediation.

The table has been completely reset now, and it’s heavily favoured towards the pilots. The company really only has 3 options:

- Negotiate without delay and get a deal done by June (great option for the pilot group)
- Do the bare minimum to delay a deal post June (significant risk of Kaplan calling them out and declaring an impasse earlier than June. HUGE RISK to damaging summer sched due to strike… great for pilot group)
- Do just enough to keep everyone happy and extend negots beyond June. (Great for pilot group as this would mean changes to the sh!tty contract are likely being made)

As I said, I really struggled with understanding this announcement, but I think I’m looking at this correctly… I think.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m beginning to see more and more signs that the company has been completely caught off guard by ALPA and ALPA is now playing the company’s game back at them, and playing it much better.
There’s a really great explanation as to the “why” on the other forum.
+1 which other forum?
AC pilots forum.
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