A couple of Jazz questions

metal overcast · Post by **metal overcast** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:11 pm

Just wondering if you are put up and fed while on groundschool and sim?
Also what is the deal with 6 month till you can commute on passes?
I understand travel privileges but commuting is not a pleasure trip.

Dockjock · Post by **Dockjock** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:42 pm

View commuting as a privilege, not a right.

If your job is in city X, but you choose to live in city Y, how you get to work is your business. Just because people get this notion of commuting in their head doesn't mean it takes on any more importance. I find it actually rather amazing that Jazz even allows you to miss work if you don't make a flight (sorry, 2 flights) that you're on standby for as a commuter. As if a person who lives in their base city would be extended the same leniency if they got caught in traffic! Suck it up for 6 months, its a huge perk in the long run.

metal overcast · Post by **metal overcast** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:52 pm

For starters I don't think I said anything out it being my right to commute.
I just asked why the wait. It really does not cost the company anything. I commuted with my last job and did so very responsibly thank you!
If you have a problem take it up with someone who gives a crap!

Dockjock · Post by **Dockjock** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:02 pm

Pass privileges, with the emphasis on privileges do not start right away...evidently you are aware of that.
The reason for the wait is probably to prevent people from getting a job for the express purpose of saving the airfare for an expensive trip. Granted this probably applies more to jobs that require no qualifications, not necessarily pilots. But, just because you call it commuting doesn't change what it is- pass travel. It would be impossible to police the reason for each and every employee's trip, and therefore the same policy is applied to everyone, even special superpilots who live away from base.

metal overcast · Post by **metal overcast** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:42 pm

I understand what you are saying and thanks for your response. My prior experience was different as were permitted to commute from base to home as a commuter and the program worked great.
Again I will say that I don't give a flying crap about you problem with people who live away from base. We all can't be as fortunate as you to live at base. Believe me commuting really sucks but everyone has circumstances.
Grow up sport.
cheers

flyer 1492 · Post by **flyer 1492** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:27 pm

Metal,

To answer your first question, Yes a hotel room is provided and you are paid per diems while on ground school and sim.

Hope that helps,

Flyer

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:22 pm

flyer 1492 wrote:To answer your first question, Yes a hotel room is provided and you are paid per diems while on ground school and sim.

/yes

bobcaygeon · Post by **bobcaygeon** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:37 pm

Hey overcast suck it up man. Being a commuter is a Choice Just like working at Jazz is your choice!! Plenty of Jazz guys have been given the PFO from AC cause they said they would commute!!

metal overcast · Post by **metal overcast** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:34 am

Listen!
I know it is a choice to commute and it is my choice if I get through the sim etc to work at JAZZ.
I never said it was my right to do so.
Get another hobby guys I just asked a simple f****n question!
Thanks for the response flyer and YYZ.

flyer 1492 · Post by **flyer 1492** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:10 pm

Metal,

One more thing your pay starts when you start groundschool. Which is a whole lot better than when I started.

Flyer

metal overcast · Post by **metal overcast** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:19 pm

Is it training pay or full salary?
thanks again

flyer 1492 · Post by **flyer 1492** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:15 pm

Full salary.

Flyer

2low · Post by **2low** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:20 pm

800 + perdiums every two weeks.

pauliewalnuts · Post by **pauliewalnuts** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:52 pm

800 every 2 weeks? That seems a little low or am I missing something?

2low · Post by **2low** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:12 pm

Your god damb right it's low

pauliewalnuts · Post by **pauliewalnuts** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:52 pm

How does 34700 workout to 800 every 2 weeks?
I realize there are taxes and what not, but even an F/O at a tier 3 airline takes home more than that (at the pay level that is the same as JAZZ).

DiscoDashSeven · Post by **DiscoDashSeven** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:19 pm

It's more than $800 every 2 weeks.

flyer 1492 · Post by **flyer 1492** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:53 pm

At 34,700 per year it should work out to around $2891.00 per month. That is before taxes.

Flyer

2low · Post by **2low** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:57 pm

I guess your right. It's 850 every two weeks

DiscoDashSeven · Post by **DiscoDashSeven** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:00 pm

toolow_flaps wrote:I guess your right. It's 850 every two weeks

Getting warmer...keep trying.

2low · Post by **2low** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:12 pm

groundtoflightdeck · Post by **groundtoflightdeck** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:54 am

800 + perdiums every two weeks.

Maybe means more than $800 in per diems every 2 weeks? Thats about $57/ day.

DiscoDashSeven · Post by **DiscoDashSeven** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:52 am

You're right, but you'd have to fly 14 days in a row to get that. So far from what I've seen, the average block holder flies 14-16 days per month.