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Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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Hi All,
Two years ago, I was terminated from my airline job during my probationary period after I did not pass the check ride.

Since then I worked for smaller companies. and now I want to get back to airlines.

Would the airline employers deny me because of me getting fired 2 years ago?
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No,
Just be honnest about it, why you failed, what you learned and how you bounced back.
Failing a check ride is not the end of the world, it doesn't make you a bad pilot.
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Re: Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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AvioBlue wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:26 pm Hi All,
Two years ago, I was terminated from my airline job during my probationary period after I did not pass the check ride.

Since then I worked for smaller companies. and now I want to get back to airlines.

Would the airline employers deny me because of me getting fired 2 years ago?
Definitely not an airline represented by ALPA was it? They would never allow it
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JungleRiot wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:45 pm
AvioBlue wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:26 pm Hi All,
Two years ago, I was terminated from my airline job during my probationary period after I did not pass the check ride.

Since then I worked for smaller companies. and now I want to get back to airlines.

Would the airline employers deny me because of me getting fired 2 years ago?
Definitely not an airline represented by ALPA was it? They would never allow it
I would think there is more to this, failing a single check ride does not usually end in being fired, not that I’ve ever seen.
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Re: Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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JungleRiot wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:45 pm
AvioBlue wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:26 pm Hi All,
Two years ago, I was terminated from my airline job during my probationary period after I did not pass the check ride.

Since then I worked for smaller companies. and now I want to get back to airlines.

Would the airline employers deny me because of me getting fired 2 years ago?
Definitely not an airline represented by ALPA was it? They would never allow it
Yes they will. You're on probation during training. Check your CA (and the Canada Labour Code). You have no job protection during probation.
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I guess it depends. Are you weak on piloting skills or was it just a bad day for a competent pilot? Be honest with us. Was there anything else in your general behavior that made a bad day the excuse they were looking for to fire you(ie. do you have a problem personality that tends to piss people off)? Be honest with us at least.
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Re: Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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The OP doesn’t need to divulge anymore info than he/she posted. As mentioned above Avio, it doesn’t hinder you, be honest in interviews. They like to hear during interview questions a setback and how you overcame, what you learned from past mistakes etc. Don’t let past failure lessen your confidence, study hard! Lose any ego. You’re still flying so that skill set is there. Good luck.
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Re: Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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330heavy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:12 am The OP doesn’t need to divulge anymore info than he/she posted. As mentioned above Avio, it doesn’t hinder you, be honest in interviews. They like to hear during interview questions a setback and how you overcame, what you learned from past mistakes etc. Don’t let past failure lessen your confidence, study hard! Lose any ego. You’re still flying so that skill set is there. Good luck.
Your post sums up a convo I recently had with a friend who was let go from a 705 regional. In his case he admitted being weak and told me he had studied hard before his training events. (I know the feeling as I too have always had to put in twice the effort while studying in order to achieve the same result of my fellow colleagues)

Of particular concern was “wth will I say/how will I answer THAT question”.

-Tell them the truth, your not super human, you’ve realized errors committed/training deficiencies and that ever since then you’ve really committed yourself to being the best you and your future colleagues can and expect you to be”.

Poor guy…. It was a lightbulb moment for him.

To the OP, the moral of this story is:

Don’t let adversity hold you down, but you better damn learn from it!

TPC
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Re: Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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TeePeeCreeper wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:10 pm
330heavy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:12 am The OP doesn’t need to divulge anymore info than he/she posted. As mentioned above Avio, it doesn’t hinder you, be honest in interviews. They like to hear during interview questions a setback and how you overcame, what you learned from past mistakes etc. Don’t let past failure lessen your confidence, study hard! Lose any ego. You’re still flying so that skill set is there. Good luck.
Your post sums up a convo I recently had with a friend who was let go from a 705 regional. In his case he admitted being weak and told me he had studied hard before his training events. (I know the feeling as I too have always had to put in twice the effort while studying in order to achieve the same result of my fellow colleagues)

Of particular concern was “wth will I say/how will I answer THAT question”.

-Tell them the truth, your not super human, you’ve realized errors committed/training deficiencies and that ever since then you’ve really committed yourself to being the best you and your future colleagues can and expect you to be”.

Poor guy…. It was a lightbulb moment for him.

To the OP, the moral of this story is:

Don’t let adversity hold you down, but you better damn learn from it!

TPC
You'll still need to address the elephant in the room though. "You failed the training at our competitor, what makes you think you'll pass our training program?"
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Re: Getting Back to Airlines after Being Fired

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digits_ wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:28 pm
TeePeeCreeper wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:10 pm
330heavy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:12 am The OP doesn’t need to divulge anymore info than he/she posted. As mentioned above Avio, it doesn’t hinder you, be honest in interviews. They like to hear during interview questions a setback and how you overcame, what you learned from past mistakes etc. Don’t let past failure lessen your confidence, study hard! Lose any ego. You’re still flying so that skill set is there. Good luck.
Your post sums up a convo I recently had with a friend who was let go from a 705 regional. In his case he admitted being weak and told me he had studied hard before his training events. (I know the feeling as I too have always had to put in twice the effort while studying in order to achieve the same result of my fellow colleagues)

Of particular concern was “wth will I say/how will I answer THAT question”.

-Tell them the truth, your not super human, you’ve realized errors committed/training deficiencies and that ever since then you’ve really committed yourself to being the best you and your future colleagues can and expect you to be”.

Poor guy…. It was a lightbulb moment for him.

To the OP, the moral of this story is:

Don’t let adversity hold you down, but you better damn learn from it!

TPC
You'll still need to address the elephant in the room though. "You failed the training at our competitor, what makes you think you'll pass our training program?"
Wholeheartedly agree with you.
AND that was my misgiving… I never thought I got “the whole story”… Will admit that I was wee bit sceptic.

Neither here or there Digits…


The goal of what I originally posted was simply:

“Study your ass off, admit to mistakes, turn it to
Your advantage. You once fucked up and now you’ve found yourself and learnt from it kinda spiel”
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