Carson and pay

[rigpiggy]

Looking at Indeed, they show median pay as 74k is this captain? Or is it a blend of capt/fo pay. Ffs so hard to put an actual price, have turned down 3 other jobs after wasting time in an interview for low pay. Save us the bother and let us decide if we will even apply

[Canadaflyer46]

Pay there is garbage. A few years ago they were still paying $21k for an FO. There’s a reason they post the same job ads every week and refuse to disclose the pay.

[mmm...bacon]

Most guys seem to be coming into the right seat of the -350 medevac machines at about $60k, Citation ~$65k; Captains around $80K and $90K respectively. Probably negotiable, dependent upon your experience, and the level of management needs...

Metros - I have no clue.

This isn't the Carson Air of the last ~25 years. There's a recognition that there is a shortage of applicants and experience, and management seem to be taking steps to try to address that. Yes, we are always running ads for both seats, but in case you hadn't noticed, there's lots of hiring at AC, Flair, CargoJet, Sunwing, Corporate, and Jazz - and that's where the recent departees have gone.. The flip side of that is during the pandemic, we actually hired people, and none of us faced a layoff...

[C-GGGQ]

Earlier this year I was offered Metro Captain with Carson at 45k

[daedalusx]

Carson 350 YLW is probably the best lifestyle pilot job in Canada. Pay isn't the greatest but it has improved over the years.

[Canadaflyer46]

Earlier this year I was offered Metro Captain with Carson at 45k

Wow. Talk about leopards and spots. Even in 2023.

[digits_]

Earlier this year I was offered Metro Captain with Carson at 45k

Wow



I hope the chief pilot was at least somewhat ashamed when offering you that salary?

[C-GGGQ]

I’ll clarify. It was summer 2022 I was offered, and yes they talked up how great the schedule was, and how easy the run was, only downside is that the metro has no autopilot etc etc. then just kind of assumed I’d say yes and said to submjt my papers etc so they could get me processed for the groundschool in 2 weeks. Thats when I said “you haven’t mentioned pay” “oh well you know there’s a scale and it depends on etc etc etc”. “Ok and what is the year one pay for the captain on the metro?” “…… 45” which is already what I was getting as a King Air FO which is what I told them. Hoping maybe it has changed in the last 6-7 months but who knows?

[RockSalty]

Earlier this year I was offered Metro Captain with Carson at 45k

Jesus Christ. That definitely explains the repeat job postings lol

[JHR]

Carson 350 YLW is probably the best lifestyle pilot job in Canada.

Bwahahahahahaha this has got to be the funniest thing posted on AvCanada in years. Thanks for the laugh

[‘Bob’]

Well… there are a lot of higher lifestyle jobs in Canada.

Back east. Up north. On the west coast where COL precludes any lifestyle. Dealing with CATSA/TSA/any number of foreign peace officers. Flying at night. Away from home. Lots of hours.

Or after sacrificing the best years of your life on reserve and commuting and making nothing.

Anyone who flew medevac in AB, MB, ON, or points north… it’s not comparable. Anyone who’s looking at the out of date wages you can add half as much again to them for what EIC is offering.

YLW captain spots never come up. There’s a good reason for it.

[Airspeed Addict]

Carson just upped their pay scale for the Metro's significantly about 9 months after I left. Starting pay for FO now is 57k (which is what the Captain pay used to be) and Captain now starts at I believe ~ $85k). It is what it is - for most it's a good skill building job with quick upgrade time ( I went left seat in 6 months as most people do) With the new pay it's probably a more enticing job to many now, fly 2-3 days a week home every night and weekends off. To each their own, but I feel their retention rate will be much better now that they are paying decent salaries.

It can be fun and challenging, especially in bad weather in the mountains as it is all hand flying - but doing the milk run to Kelowna, Kamloops and Vancouver gets old after a while.