CEO throwing Mechanics/Union under the bus

[5degrees]

Appreciate the support for people like me with opposite views. I’ll exit this thread if it’s hurting the card carriers feelings that didn’t get their way. As it was said, you should have known this would happen…..the card doesn’t mate you invisible! Later.

More like "Justanidiot". Such edgy takes from you. You're free to have shitty opinions but don't be a snowflake when you purposely antagonize people with your invisible account.

[flyingcanuck]

Appreciate the support for people like me with opposite views. I’ll exit this thread if it’s hurting the card carriers feelings that didn’t get their way. As it was said, you should have known this would happen…..the card doesn’t mate you invisible! Later.

Says the guy on the anonymous forum

[DanWEC]

Just want to say to any mechs on here- Well fricken done boys!!!
You'll hopefully now get what you deserve, or at least a hell of a lot closer to it. Next time I run into one of you you've got beers on me.

[planenuts]

Just want to say to any mechs on here- Well fricken done boys!!!
You'll hopefully now get what you deserve, or at least a hell of a lot closer to it. Next time I run into one of you you've got beers on me.

Thank you for your support!

It may not change anything in the arbitration - but we are not going quietly. Westjet may have won the battle....but we are firing the last shot.

I can only hope this inspires others during their difficult negotiations. This completely enforces one's RIGHT TO STRIKE.

[GIVCE!]

Again, another show of support from others here in Canada at airlines that treat employees with dismal contracts an WAWCon while they reap the rewards of OUR backs and efforts. WELL DONE WESTJET AME’s ! The right to strike is a Right which must be maintained here or else the corps. Will always walk over us. The time to stand together, as a workforce, as a people and as a nation for better pay and working conditions FOR EVERYBODY is NOW. I support YOU.

[RippleRock]

Appreciate the support for people like me with opposite views. I’ll exit this thread if it’s hurting the card carriers feelings that didn’t get their way. As it was said, you should have known this would happen…..the card doesn’t mate you invisible! Later.

What a douche.

Here's a $30,000,000 July long weekend "cleanup bill" for attempting to usurp the legal rights of Union to negotiate freely.

You reap what you sow. I imagine you're a little too busy to respond.

LOL.



FWIW....Alexis and his team should be shit canned immediately.

[altiplano]

Just want to say to any mechs on here- Well fricken done boys!!!
You'll hopefully now get what you deserve, or at least a hell of a lot closer to it. Next time I run into one of you you've got beers on me.

Thank you for your support!

It may not change anything in the arbitration - but we are not going quietly. Westjet may have won the battle....but we are firing the last shot.

I can only hope this inspires others during their difficult negotiations. This completely enforces one's RIGHT TO STRIKE.

I don't think this will make it to arbitration. That will take weeks or months even to run it's course.

WJ won't give up summer, they can't, they will be back to the table and a negotiated settlement will be reached that achieves your goals. AMFA has ALL the leverage right now.

100% behind you.

[rookiepilot]

This is the only language a company like Onex understands.

If it was me on the union negotiating committee I would refuse to even answer the phone today. And Maybe tomorrow.

[Captain S itmagnet]

So the CEO, born in Germany, and the COO, born in the Netherlands claim the source of the problem is an international union based in the US.

[airway]

"The government has officially stepped in to provide binding arbitration and ensure we get to a resolution; the only reason for this union to continue with a strike action is to create damage, disrupt the travel plans of thousands of Canadians over the July long weekend and to inflict significant costs on our business," said company president Diederik Pen in a statement.
"Given arbitration has been ordered, a strike has no leverage on the arbitration's outcome, so it is pure retaliation of a disappointed union."


The only reason for this union to continue with a strike action is they won't have to wait weeks or months to get the resolution they deserve.

Given arbitration has been ordered, a strike has no leverage on the arbitration's outcome, because there will probably be no arbitration once the company agrees with the unions modest proposals and end the legal strike.



Actually, if I remember correctly, several years ago, the pilots at an airline in Canada (can't remember which) were prevented from striking by the Government, and were forced into binding arbitration. The arbitrator was told to take into account what the pilots could have got if they were able to strike.




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[truecolours]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

[daedalusx]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

They got completely caught off-guard.

[planenuts]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

They got completely caught off-guard.

They did indeed. Our (AMFA) legal team reviewed the laws for hours and then reconfirmed them with the CIRB that the right to strike is a charter right and once confirmed we were out the door with litterally minutes to spare in our strike mandate.

Because Westjet assumed - like many others - that it was not allowed, they are getting a serious schooling. They have started calling the strike illegal and threatening us with termination. Funny thing though....they consider this illegal but have also quietly issued a lockout to us as well.

[TheLastonetoknow]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

They got completely caught off-guard.

They did indeed. Our (AMFA) legal team reviewed the laws for hours and then reconfirmed them with the CIRB that the right to strike is a charter right and once confirmed we were out the door with litterally minutes to spare in our strike mandate.

Because Westjet assumed - like many others - that it was not allowed, they are getting a serious schooling. They have started calling the strike illegal and threatening us with termination. Funny thing though....they consider this illegal but have also quietly issued a lockout to us as well.

It’s fine to get a schooling but this current management group is lost in space to understand “schooling” and have completely and totally believed their own noise..

They’re grasping and hold the line! Time to compensate AMEs justly and deservedly…

[29 ford]

Now if maintenance managers who are doing the work and no doubt will benefit from this contract as well had the guts to go home and twist the cap off a few beers to help the guys out would be nice.

[rudder]

It is priceless today watching the back-and-forth blame game, mostly involving WJ management and the Minister of Labour.

WJ management thought the ‘end run’ strategy worked. Wrong.

The Minister of Labour misunderstood both his authority and that of the CIRB. It appears the only party that understood the situation was the CIRB.

The only way for the Minister to expand his authority is by legislation. Parliament is out and good luck finding a majority of support.

Here is a suggestion to WJ management from an unaffected observer - leave the Minister and the CIRB out of it. Do your job and bargain to a settlement. Oh, and fire your team of lawyers and advisors.

[julcancro]

It is priceless today watching the back-and-forth blame game, mostly involving WJ management and the Minister of Labour.

WJ management thought the ‘end run’ strategy worked. Wrong.

The Minister of Labour misunderstood both his authority and that of the CIRB. It appears the only party that understood the situation was the CIRB.

The only way for the Minister to expand his authority is by legislation. Parliament is out and good luck finding a majority of support.

Here is a suggestion to WJ management from an unaffected observer - leave the Minister and the CIRB out of it. Do your job and bargain to a settlement. Oh, and fire your team of lawyers and advisors.

Start with Angela Avery

[Scantron]

Great job guys, I feel like everyone in aviation and industry is behind you. Stay strong and I hope you get what you deserve. The amount of skill and reponsibility you have needs to be valued! Enjoy your long weekend !

[goingnowherefast]

Great job guys, I feel like everyone in aviation and industry is behind you. Stay strong and I hope you get what you deserve. The amount of skill and reponsibility you have needs to be valued! Enjoy your long weekend !

The entire industry and other industries as well. We all thank WJ AMEs.

[Bendawrench]

As a long standing AME in the industry I can say this movement is long overdue!
I support this group 100 percent.

[lostaviator]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

I wonder if they’ve read the passenger bill of rights as thoroughly as they read the CIRB decision. If this is ruled within their control, and remember, the lockout was not rescinded either, that would hurt.

The compensation for this would be disastrous. And compared to the 8 million economic difference of opinion we are fighting over here, I wonder if the ex-astronomer CEO’s head is still stuck in space.

[digits_]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

I wonder if they’ve read the passenger bill of rights as thoroughly as they read the CIRB decision. If this is ruled within their control, and remember, the lockout was not rescinded either, that would hurt.

The compensation for this would be disastrous. And compared to the 8 million economic difference of opinion we are fighting over here, I wonder if the ex-astronomer CEO’s head is still stuck in space.

It's just personal, it's not business anymore at this point.

[lostaviator]

The translation app he (and our other executives) are using must be as old as our IT infrastructure because they clearly misunderstood the CIRB decision that highlights a strike was still allowed.

I wonder if they’ve read the passenger bill of rights as thoroughly as they read the CIRB decision. If this is ruled within their control, and remember, the lockout was not rescinded either, that would hurt.

The compensation for this would be disastrous. And compared to the 8 million economic difference of opinion we are fighting over here, I wonder if the ex-astronomer CEO’s head is still stuck in space.

It's just personal, it's not business anymore at this point.

Agree 100%.

My math has this costing 30-50 million in passenger comp so far(if not more).

They will be sure to highlight this in November and May for the next year or two on dates we were supposed to have profit share as a way to turn employee groups against one another.

[Fanblade]

Been on strike twice.

As a heads up. No one dies. It’s some humour if anyone is getting anxious.

Thank you for defending Canadians right to strike. Without that one thing. We have no leverage.

[cdnavater]

I wonder if they’ve read the passenger bill of rights as thoroughly as they read the CIRB decision. If this is ruled within their control, and remember, the lockout was not rescinded either, that would hurt.

The compensation for this would be disastrous. And compared to the 8 million economic difference of opinion we are fighting over here, I wonder if the ex-astronomer CEO’s head is still stuck in space.

It's just personal, it's not business anymore at this point.

Agree 100%.

My math has this costing 30-50 million in passenger comp so far(if not more).

They will be sure to highlight this in November and May for the next year or two on dates we were supposed to have profit share as a way to turn employee groups against one another.

In the article I just read, WJ plans to hold AMFA fully responsible for the damage they caused, lol.
If this management team still has their jobs after this, I would be completely dumbfounded!