Ideas and Suggestions Welcome.

[BuddyJay]

Relating to the commercial side of aviation and the formation of CAAP,

What changes would you like to see brought forth within the Canadian Aviation Industry?

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What areas could use improvement?

I will edit this message on a continious basis to list the suggestions/ideas posted below and to help keep track.

• 1)Flight duty times
  2)Pay scales for various types of aircraft and operations
  3)Training bonds
  4)PPC's
  5)Commercial and ATPL requirements (other than flight hours)
  6)Pilot lifestyle tips
  7)Training Costs
  8 )Licensing issuses

[RB211]

Flight & Duty time limitations would be a good place to start with TC.

[loopy]

Minimum acceptable pay scales for types of aircraft and operations.

[neiva]

Rules in trainning and bonds.
See the thread "do what you gotta do"

[TheCheez]

Restrictions on the # of commercial licenses issued each year.

[groo]

scrub the 1200/ year and base duty times on rest periods. 8 hours a day 200 days a year (what every one else does) is 1600/year.

Increase requirements for commercial licences (raise costs, fewer pilots)

Make it easier for expats to train in Canada. American training companies do training for tonns of overseas airlines and Canadian pilots are better trained. Our gov't won't let them in.

[CLguy]

Groo, what you are proposing is to increase the flight time to 1600/ year based on all other employee's working 200 days at 8 hours.

I think you had better give some thought to how many hours on the job a pilot now has to do in order to actually fly 1200 hours/ year.

Based on your rational the maximum annual flight time allowed should be reduced to 600 hours.

[cyyz]

Raise the work load
Raise the cost of training..

LOL..

Restrictions on the # of commercial licenses issued each year.

Good idea, but it's hard to implement. Do you have a bar type exam(flight and written) where the highest marks pass and recieve their CPL, but allowing everyone to "try out"? A tribunal selects the top 100??

Also are CPLs awarded at the provincial(ex, 10 ont, 10 que, 10 NB, etc) level or at the national level(100 total)?

[FA28 guy]

Minimum IQ requirements for pilots
Ethics training for pilots
Personel hygeine training guess for who?

[oldtimer]

I think flight duty times are ok as they are. Really, this give those of us who require it a chance to thumb our noses at authority and the "establishment" by flaunting the regulations. Gives some guys a big erection and all.

As far as Pay - If the good Lord had intended man to fly, he would have given him more money, so it is not an operational thing but a spiritual thing. Somebody must be looking after us, cause we shure aint. Ifn we had this lots of money thing, what would we bitch about and they say money will not buy happiness but it sure makes our misery more enjoyable and money won't buy true friends but it sure makes for a better class of enemies.

Training bonds for PPC's are a good thing. After all how is Joe Dumbass going to keep young birdmen down on the farm. Didn't they have the same problem in '14 to '18 in the Great War when the old farm boys saw Paree. (or was it Paris. Hard to tell when they sing it). And how do primitive people know if they are doing the dances correctly.

All pilots should have to wear a big watch. One that has lots of dials and numbers, just like the instrument panel. And lots of buttoms on the side. And glows in the dark and beeps when girls walk by. It is a mark of a real pilot when his watch is bigger than his dink. WOW!!! Should list to port in a calm wind. Or maybe better yet, drag his knuckles when he stands upright. And thats for the guys.

Gals. Keep your chin up. Your time will come. Right after supper dishes are done. Right. I notice that WJ and AC and CMA all let their flight attendants talk on the radio. Hear them all the time.

And aviator sunglasses. Even wear them at night. And a case on the belt to carry them in. Just like the truck drivers who have their double-clutching boots and chain drive wallets. Got to keep up appearances. And you can drop them down and look over the top, just like Tom Take-off, or is it Cruise. I forget.

And you can go to the southern universities that advertize in Popular Detective magazine and the like and get a degree by mail. Send money and in the return mail you will get your diploma. It is called LLP. Ba . Looks like pilot - but aint. Shure to impress all the chicks that hang out at the airport, hoping they can also talk on the radio.
And just remember. In the words of the great George Carlin. "When you sneeze, all the numbers in your hear go up by one". so be careful.

From the "oldtimer" because getting old is better than the alternative.

[twinpratts]

Not sure how any of this would achieve anything...

[Flying Low]

Groo...where'd you get 200 days a year???

52 weeks minus 2 weeks vacation times 5 days a week = 250 days

250 days times 8 hours a day = 2000 hours a year (minus stat holidays, sick days....whatever else).

Can't imagine how much duty time I'll accumulate getting 2000 hours flight time in a year. This is gonna cut in on my sleep I bet.

[BuddyJay]

bump

No more???

[Dockjock]

A bar type of certification exam with only two opportunities to write it each year. Capped at x number of CPL's issued annually relating to approximate 40% failure rate. Seems to me all other professionals have this type of system in place.

Also 100% tax deductibility for interest on flight training related loans and bonds.