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pilotjack
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INRAT Question

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Does anybody know the validity of the inrat? Like how long do I have to complete the flight test after writing it? Is it 2 years like the other exams?
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Re: INRAT Question

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All TC written exams are valid for 2 years including the INRAT. There is a weird work-around on ATPL exams but that still requires getting a PPC within 2 years.

TLDR, 2 years, yes.
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Re: INRAT Question

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I wrote my INRAT last year. IIRC, there is an odd quirk with it.

It's valid for 2 years from date of writing.

UNLESS

You attempt a flight test before the 2 years expires. That increases the validity to indefinite.

So as long as you attempt an IFR flight test within 2 years of writing it ( attempt, not pass), you're fine.
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Re: INRAT Question

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bwgilchrist wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm It's valid for 2 years from date of writing.
Yep, two years, per CAR 400.03:
CAR 400.03 wrote: Time Limits

400.03 (1) Subject to subsection (3), written examinations, including all sections of a sectionalized examination, that are required for the issuance of a permit or licence or for the endorsement of a permit or licence with a rating shall be completed during the 24-month period preceding the date of the application for the permit, licence or rating.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply in respect of examinations that are required for the issuance of
(a) a student pilot permit; or
(b) an airline transport pilot licence if examinations were previously written
(i) for the endorsement of a type rating, a mark of 70 per cent or higher was obtained on the examination and the type rating was issued;
(ii) for the issuance of the former senior commercial pilot licence, a mark of 70 per cent or higher was obtained on the examination and the senior commercial pilot licence was issued; or
(iii) for the issuance of an airline transport pilot licence — aeroplane, an airline transport pilot licence — aeroplane integrated course was successfully completed during the 5-year period preceding the date of the application for the licence and a course completion certificate was issued.
bwgilchrist wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm You attempt a flight test before the 2 years expires. That increases the validity to indefinite.

So as long as you attempt an IFR flight test within 2 years of writing it ( attempt, not pass), you're fine.
There may be an exemption in place that I don't know about, but otherwise this is not correct. You don't have to re-write the exam after the rating is issued because the emphasized portion in the CARs quote above no longer applies (because the instrument rating doesn't expire, you just lose recency). However, if the rating is not issued (e.g. - you do the flight test and fail it), the exam expires.
praveen4143 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:13 pm There is a weird work-around on ATPL exams but that still requires getting a PPC within 2 years.
It's not a weird work-around. It's exactly what's written in the regulation quoted above.
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Re: INRAT Question

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Conflicting Traffic wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:00 pm

There may be an exemption in place that I don't know about, but otherwise this is not correct. You don't have to re-write the exam after the rating is issued because the emphasized portion in the CARs quote above no longer applies (because the instrument rating doesn't expire, you just lose recency). However, if the rating is not issued (e.g. - you do the flight test and fail it), the exam expires.
I'll have to look through my materials on it. I know there was a lot of discussion around it during the prep course because it seemed quite odd. Perhaps it was stated with the assumption that you take a flight test within two years ( and obviously pass it), and if you lose recency, you no longer have to re-write the INRAT.
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bwgilchrist wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:31 am Perhaps it was stated with the assumption that you take a flight test within two years ( and obviously pass it), and if you lose recency, you no longer have to re-write the INRAT.
That sounds more like it. Failing (or skipping) an IPC doesn't invalidate the rating, so you don't have to re-write the exam.
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Re: INRAT Question

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Sorry for the long delay before responding.

I think I found the answer - as long as you take a flight test within 24 months of writing, then the INRAT validity doesn't expire as long as it's a partial re-test.

Explain?

The flight test guide states that for an initial flight test, a candidate must provide proof of successful completion of the INRAT within the previous 24 months. There is no such criteria for a partial flight test, but for a complete retest, the criteria for an initial flight test apply.

So,

You do a flight test 23 months and 28 days after passing the INRAT.

You not successful and have to do a partial retest, which you schedule 2 weeks later. No worries about INRAT.

You not successful and have to do a completeretest, which you schedule 2 weeks later. You need a new INRAT.
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Re: INRAT Question

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the licence/rating has to be applied for within 2 years of the written exam
the flight test has to be within 1 year of application
partials do not extend the validity dates, it based on the original partial pass date

ATPL exams don't expire if someone obtains their first 2 crew rating within 2 years of writing them, if someone gets their first 2 crew with IATRA then does sARON/SAMRA and still doesn't have 1500 etc 2 years later, they expire.
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