Delta collision on taxi - Sept 10 2024

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Delta collision on taxi - Sept 10 2024

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This one isn't going to buff out

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/delta-plane-c ... =113551143

Looks like the wing of the long haul caught the tail of the short haul, and took it right off.
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Re: Delta collision on taxi - Sept 10 2024

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I'm always terrified of this. Long planes maybe don't pull up quite enough. Maybe they can't with another plane in front of them, or short perpendicular taxiways. Many jets don't have the rearward visibility to see their own wingtip. Taxiing around big airports is a very dynamic environment.
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I love how A350 is no where in sight. He just kept taxiing and took off.
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Re: Delta collision on taxi - Sept 10 2024

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goingnowherefast wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:40 pm I'm always terrified of this. Long planes maybe don't pull up quite enough. Maybe they can't with another plane in front of them, or short perpendicular taxiways. Many jets don't have the rearward visibility to see their own wingtip. Taxiing around big airports is a very dynamic environment.
All the more reason to be very careful when taxiing imho.

I fly an aircraft with a 198' wingspan and the main wheels just over 100' behind me. One of the first things I did when I started flying this type was to look where the wingtips were relative to markings on the ground and then see how those markings looked from the cockpit window. Not exact - but it gives an idea where the wingtips are.

I'm frequently operating into unfamiliar airports with very different standards of operation. Recently we had a tight 150 degree turn onto a stand - there was some ground equipment parked close by. I stopped the aircraft and waited for this to be moved.

My understanding is that the A350 involved in this collision returned to the gate.
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Re: Delta collision on taxi - Sept 10 2024

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Bede wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:48 pm I love how A350 is no where in sight. He just kept taxiing and took off.
A new AVCANADA Gold Record for wtf is that you say?
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There's pictures of the A350 in the news taken of it on the taxiway. ATC quotes that the crew reported an issue to ground.
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SpyPilot wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:45 pm
Bede wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:48 pm I love how A350 is no where in sight. He just kept taxiing and took off.
A new AVCANADA Gold Record for wtf is that you say?
Sorry, I guess it wasn't obvious. I should have added [/s].
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Bede wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:53 am
SpyPilot wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:45 pm
Bede wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:48 pm I love how A350 is no where in sight. He just kept taxiing and took off.
A new AVCANADA Gold Record for wtf is that you say?
Sorry, I guess it wasn't obvious. I should have added [/s].
It was pretty damn obvious lol.
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Bede wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:48 pm I love how A350 is no where in sight. He just kept taxiing and took off.
Just like Flair pilots.
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Re: Delta collision on taxi - Sept 10 2024

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Eric Janson wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:27 pm
goingnowherefast wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:40 pm I'm always terrified of this. Long planes maybe don't pull up quite enough. Maybe they can't with another plane in front of them, or short perpendicular taxiways. Many jets don't have the rearward visibility to see their own wingtip. Taxiing around big airports is a very dynamic environment.
All the more reason to be very careful when taxiing imho.

I fly an aircraft with a 198' wingspan and the main wheels just over 100' behind me. One of the first things I did when I started flying this type was to look where the wingtips were relative to markings on the ground and then see how those markings looked from the cockpit window. Not exact - but it gives an idea where the wingtips are.
My company had a groundschool section for taxiing with pictures for reference points to use on the windshield for wingtip and main gear locations based on the pilot at the design eye reference point. The 4 pictures(taken while parked at the gate) for each piloting position in the groundshool package has a person standing in front of the aircraft in line with the item being referenced(such as wingtip) and notes the location of the person in the windshield(such as lower left corner for left main gear).

One of the reasons why you adjust the seat to this point(using those three balls, if you have them).
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