US Regional Pilot Pay - 6 fold increases

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What Can New Pilots Make? Near Minimum Wage

Starting pilot salaries at 14 U.S. regional carriers average $22,400 a year

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424 ... 1586540284

Buffalo crash probe focuses on pilot fatigue, low pay

The co-pilot of a deadly commuter airplane crash near Buffalo, N.Y., earlier this year took a cross-country red-eye flight the night before to get to her $16,000 US-a-year  job in Newark, a public hearing into the crash was told Wednesday.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/buffalo-c ... y-1.788169


Congress Stunned by Flight 3407 Pilots' Pay

NTSB investigators calculated Shaw was paid just over $16,000. Colgan officials testified that captains such as Renslow earn about $55,000 a year.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/c ... y/1895708/



Pilot starting pay similar to fast food workers

Fly a multimillion dollar complex piece of machinery, where you are responsible for dozens of lives including your own, and the average guaranteed starting salary at a regional airline is, according to the Government Accountability Office, $21,600 a year. That's for first officers, the co-pilot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP5bmRrm9hE

What Do Entry Level Regional Pilots and McDonald’s Workers Have In Common?

https://pointmetotheplane.boardingarea. ... in-common/


How the high-flying job of a pilot lost its glamour

Wages, length of training, cost of school among reasons the profession struggles to attract new recruits

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/pilot- ... -1.4471354







2024


lowest
Commute air $90k US $121k canadian

highest
Republic $120k US $164 canadian

Year 1 FO
US dollars

Regional Airline/ First Year Pay + First Year Bonus = Total Pilot Salary (US $)

Air Wisconsin / $99,000 + $5,000 = $104,000
Commute air / $85,386 + $5,000 = $90,386
Endeavor / $105,810 + $0 = $105,810
Envoy / $105,750 + $0 = $105,750
GoJet / $95,700 + $18,000 = $113,700
Horizon / $96,390 + $0 = $96,390
Mesa / $114,150 + $0 = $114,150
Piedmont / $105,000 + $0 = $105,000
PSA / $105,150 + $0 = $105,150
Republic / $95,730 + $25,000 = $120,730
Sky West / $102,120 + $0 = $102,120



https://atpflightschool.com/become-a-pi ... t-pay.html

Don't look to USA, look at what they just achieved in Australia.

Australia and Canada are very similar.

Property in YVR, YYC, YYZ or YUL are just as unaffordable as Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne or Perth.

New Virgin Australia TA is $183,137 for a 1st year FO





https://australianaviation.com.au/2024/ ... onditions/

https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/vir ... -agreement

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Pay cut to join AC from Canadian regional

Wasaya starting at +$124,000



Fleet types: ATR 42 & 72

Competitive Salary as per the CBA

2024 rates: $112K- $160K annually based on experience
2025 rates: $118K- $168K annually based on experience
PLUS $30 per airtime hour!! (400 hrs a year = $12K)




2025 - Wasaya starting at +$130,000

pc-12 captain

MARCH 1, 2023

Step 1 114,174.96
Step 2 116,505.06
Step 3 118,882.72
Step 4 122,559.50
Step 5 126,350.00
Step 6 133,000.00



KingAir 200 Medevac Captain Salaries:

1500 hrs TTL, 500 PIC $120,000 - year
500 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $130,000 - year
1000 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $140,000 - year
1500 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $150,000 - year
2000 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $160,000 - year
2500 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $170,000 - year
3000 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $180,000 - year
3500 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $190,000 - year
4000 hrs PIC w/ Missinippi $200,000 - year

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“I would be kind of pissed that I have to work until year three and year four to get some recognition of differentiation by aircraft type,” said John Gradek, who teaches aviation management at McGill University.

“You’re still discriminating against the junior pilots,” he said. “The rank and file appear to be upset that it’s still there.”

“The onus is now on the bargaining committee who negotiated this deal to explain themselves to their membership to justify how they were able to come to this deal.”

https://www.oakbaynews.com/national-new ... al-7541876

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WJ pilots actually make more than rates you posted above. FO's receive an additional $605/month as a lump sum payment. Captains receive $858/month.

So come Jan 01, a Westjet FO with just 2 years of service (Pay step 3) will be making the following:

120.16 x 77.5 x 12 = $111,758 + $7400 = $119,148.

So as a paystep 3 FO I will be making $119,148 base pay + 10% that goes into our new DB pension (+ per diems I guess).

Based on the DB pension calculator, I will retire with a guaranteed pension of around $260k/year (Will vary slightly depending on upgrade time - I used 8 YOS with no time on the 787)

For October I was scheduled to work 9 days
For August I was scheduled to work 10 days
For July I was scheduled to work 11 days
For June I was scheduled to only work 3 days (I used 2 weeks of vacation). Because of FLICA I was able to drop the other 3 days and have the full month off.

With my time off, I also try and pick up some easy opentime. I aim for 16 hours of OT a month, so that adds $35k/year without really trying. When I am only working 10 days a month on average, adding in 3 days of extra work doesn't feel like much. I also live in base though, so that makes things easier.

Some months I really whore myself out to the opentime though. In August I made an additional $9800 in overtime alone by working an additional 8 days (some of it was 2.0x OT). Still had 13 days off.....

Is Air Canada allowed to bid stats? Since we can bid stats it basically adds in an extra 2 weeks of biddable vacation each year.

So for vacation:

Year 1-3 = 4 Weeks
Year 4-6 = 5 Weeks
Year 7+ = 6 Weeks

Our vacation is 4.5 credits/day

I was convinced you guys would shoot miles ahead of us with your new contract. I was really surprised to see the outcome.

I really hope you guys go back to the table and get what you guys deserve. A stronger AC contract is good for the entire industry.