AC vs Delta wages (CAD converted)

[Romain]

I haven't seen it done, so I've attached the table posted earlier this month where I wrote the real numbers (US converted to CAD for Delta wages).

I only calculated for NB. You can see that the TA is bringing the FO wages from 60% to 160% of Delta, when the Captains are around 60% of Delta everywhere.

I don't really see that as a North America contract, so how can it be a WC contrat one?

There's still hope.
United got their huge raise after rejecting their first TA.
WJ mechanics did the same, Transat FAs as well.

[wcpilot]

Hi Mr.Lettuce

[cdnavater]

I haven't seen it done, so I've attached the table posted earlier this month where I wrote the real numbers (US converted to CAD for Delta wages).

I only calculated for NB. You can see that the TA is bringing the FO wages from 60% to 160% of Delta, when the Captains are around 60% of Delta everywhere.

I don't really see that as a North America contract, so how can it be a WC contrat one?

There's still hope.
United got their huge raise after rejecting their first TA.
WJ mechanics did the same, Transat FAs as well.

Nice chart, however we pay our bills in CDN dollars, they pay their bills in American dollars, so it’s a faulty comparison.
If their hydro bill is 400 and our hydro is 400, 400 dollars is coming out of the account, I’m all for dollar for dollar but expecting 451 cdn because they make 334 US is out of touch with reality

[Canadaflyer46]

I haven't seen it done, so I've attached the table posted earlier this month where I wrote the real numbers (US converted to CAD for Delta wages).

I only calculated for NB. You can see that the TA is bringing the FO wages from 60% to 160% of Delta, when the Captains are around 60% of Delta everywhere.

I don't really see that as a North America contract, so how can it be a WC contrat one?

There's still hope.
United got their huge raise after rejecting their first TA.
WJ mechanics did the same, Transat FAs as well.

Nice chart, however we pay our bills in CDN dollars, they pay their bills in American dollars, so it’s a faulty comparison.
If their hydro bill is 400 and our hydro is 400, 400 dollars is coming out of the account, I’m all for dollar for dollar but expecting 451 cdn because they make 334 US is out of touch with reality

The point is the MEC posted the original "dollar for dollar" chart to pretend they got within a few percent of Delta's rates. The OP has corrected the currency conversion to cut the bullshit, and show how far apart the new wages still are from being close to US legacy rates.

[cdnavater]

I haven't seen it done, so I've attached the table posted earlier this month where I wrote the real numbers (US converted to CAD for Delta wages).

I only calculated for NB. You can see that the TA is bringing the FO wages from 60% to 160% of Delta, when the Captains are around 60% of Delta everywhere.

I don't really see that as a North America contract, so how can it be a WC contrat one?

There's still hope.
United got their huge raise after rejecting their first TA.
WJ mechanics did the same, Transat FAs as well.

Nice chart, however we pay our bills in CDN dollars, they pay their bills in American dollars, so it’s a faulty comparison.
If their hydro bill is 400 and our hydro is 400, 400 dollars is coming out of the account, I’m all for dollar for dollar but expecting 451 cdn because they make 334 US is out of touch with reality

The point is the MEC posted the original "dollar for dollar" chart to pretend they got within a few percent of Delta's rates. The OP has corrected the currency conversion to cut the bullshit, and show how far apart the new wages still are from being close to US legacy rates.

You are NOT far apart based on actual wages, they are in the US and you are in Canada, all Canadians get paid in cdn currency and US workers get paid in US currency, that’s how it works.
334 hour there and 334 hour here are equivalent, other than our taxes are far more than most states.
If you buy a house here for a million or there for a million, you are paying a million in your currency, you’re not paying 1.3 million cdn for the same house. If you want to be paid in US equivalent wages, you should go to the US

[Canpilot7]

I haven't seen it done, so I've attached the table posted earlier this month where I wrote the real numbers (US converted to CAD for Delta wages).

I only calculated for NB. You can see that the TA is bringing the FO wages from 60% to 160% of Delta, when the Captains are around 60% of Delta everywhere.

I don't really see that as a North America contract, so how can it be a WC contrat one?

There's still hope.
United got their huge raise after rejecting their first TA.
WJ mechanics did the same, Transat FAs as well.

Nice chart, however we pay our bills in CDN dollars, they pay their bills in American dollars, so it’s a faulty comparison.
If their hydro bill is 400 and our hydro is 400, 400 dollars is coming out of the account, I’m all for dollar for dollar but expecting 451 cdn because they make 334 US is out of touch with reality

It's not, hence people wanting some conversion. Canadian dollar prices aren't the same or less.

[cdnavater]

This is from last year and does mention the cost of buying a house in Canada has risen so much but other than that depending on where you live in both countries, they have their cost advantages and disadvantages.
I also found many other articles that basically say the same thing, the wages are generally higher in the US owing to the cost of living generally being higher.
Of course part of that is healthcare insurance which if your company pays, you have an advantage but when you retire, who pays then?
I also found an income tax comparison and in most states at the income level of 300k or more they will pay more tax, I just don’t see the argument here, you live and work in Canada, you are paid in CDN currency and you pay your bills in Canadaian currency.
https://www.springfinancial.ca/blog/lif ... -expensive

Scenerio Cost in the US Cost in Canada
Rent $1,702 $1,774
Utilities $429.33 $348
annual cost of food$5,259 $3,564
Annual car insurance $2,014 $2,000
Health insurance monthly $600 $0

Conclusion

Overall, both Canada and the US are fairly expensive to live in. Canada has much higher housing costs but healthcare costs are much more expensive in the US. While US salaries are slightly higher, Canadians have a much easier time making a higher salary with less education. Honestly, both of the countries have positive and negative aspects when it comes to being affordable. Overall though, the Canada cost parameters are lower. This means overall the cost of living and consumer prices are higher in the US, which justifies the higher wages. The affordability of these places is hard to base on an average because it all depends on the career that you choose as well. While the US has more startup companies and educated positions, a lot of Canadian careers are in other fields like trades. These things also make a big difference in which country is better.

[digits_]

This is from last year and does mention the cost of buying a house in Canada has risen so much but other than that depending on where you live in both countries, they have their cost advantages and disadvantages.
I also found many other articles that basically say the same thing, the wages are generally higher in the US owing to the cost of living generally being higher.
Of course part of that is healthcare insurance which if your company pays, you have an advantage but when you retire, who pays then?
I also found an income tax comparison and in most states at the income level of 300k or more they will pay more tax, I just don’t see the argument here, you live and work in Canada, you are paid in CDN currency and you pay your bills in Canadaian currency.

The argument is that that's not how currency works. If, and that's a big if, it's true that on average a 4000 CAD monthly budget in Canada equates to a similar standard of living of a 4000 USD monthly budget, then that's nothing more than pure luck.

If you want to correctly compare two countries financially, you pick one currency to do all your calculations in. The argument "we're in Canada paying Canadian currency and thus we will compare to USD currency in the US" is silly, and comes very close to "a broken clock is right twice a day" territory.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/c ... ted+States

This source is slightly more detailed. And while the US seems to be more expensive, there does seem to be a significant difference to the exchange rate.

[phenix]

Amen.

If you see a phone at 1000USD, try to go to a Canadian store explaining that you want it at 1000CAD instead of 1350 because we are in Canada, and a dollar is a dollar.

[Whatsagambit?]

This is from last year and does mention the cost of buying a house in Canada has risen so much but other than that depending on where you live in both countries, they have their cost advantages and disadvantages.
I also found many other articles that basically say the same thing, the wages are generally higher in the US owing to the cost of living generally being higher.
Of course part of that is healthcare insurance which if your company pays, you have an advantage but when you retire, who pays then?
I also found an income tax comparison and in most states at the income level of 300k or more they will pay more tax, I just don’t see the argument here, you live and work in Canada, you are paid in CDN currency and you pay your bills in Canadaian currency.
https://www.springfinancial.ca/blog/lif ... -expensive

Scenerio Cost in the US Cost in Canada
Rent $1,702 $1,774
Utilities $429.33 $348
annual cost of food$5,259 $3,564
Annual car insurance $2,014 $2,000
Health insurance monthly $600 $0

Conclusion

Overall, both Canada and the US are fairly expensive to live in. Canada has much higher housing costs but healthcare costs are much more expensive in the US. While US salaries are slightly higher, Canadians have a much easier time making a higher salary with less education. Honestly, both of the countries have positive and negative aspects when it comes to being affordable. Overall though, the Canada cost parameters are lower. This means overall the cost of living and consumer prices are higher in the US, which justifies the higher wages. The affordability of these places is hard to base on an average because it all depends on the career that you choose as well. While the US has more startup companies and educated positions, a lot of Canadian careers are in other fields like trades. These things also make a big difference in which country is better.

If you want to do this accurately why not also calculate in the cost to taxes that each person is expected to pay? Then also include the added increase to starting salary and how those affect compounding gains throughout ones life? More money upfront means more buying power early on which means a higher quality of living. Also higher contributions to pension or any other investments those pilots can then make. Also being able to start a family sooner or getting into the housing market sooner. These simple comparisons don't really accommodate for every factor.

I illustrated this in another post about how simply taking off 20k to the senior pilots pay and increasing the starting FO pay by that much would reduce the take home pay of those senior captains by only 5.5%. About 10k due to taxes. The whole 100k raise that senior captains stand to gain only increases their take home pay by about 45k annually in Ontario.l due to taxes. I'll admit I used a simple tax calculator for this. Wealthsimple to be exact. And I know it is more nuanced than this.

Whereas increasing the starting pay for FOs by 20k would increase their take home pay by 26.5%. About 12.5k or so. That is a substantial amount of gains for someone starting off early in their career.

My point simply is that no one really has done the actual math to correctly illustrate the differences between US pay and Canadian pay. For that you'd need someone who is a wizz at excel to put in all the new and old payacales. Compare the old average working hours per month vs the new ones that supposedly increase the blocking average by 9 hours.

Then you'd have to allow for people to select what YOS they are in and what aircraft they are on. Which province they live in. Adjust for the different tax rates in those provinces. What the average cost of housing is in those provinces. The cost of living in those provinces. Accommodate the increase in pension contributions, while averaging out the return rates over the years. Then do the same with expected investment contributions each person could make. Factor in rrsp contributions and tax returns. TFSAs, FHSAs. Commuting costs. Variable other factors I can't even think of.

Then you'd have to do the exact same thing with the US dollars and each state those pilots could be living in while factoring in their payacales.

I get that would be a pain in the ass. But when I hear senior captains saying how the FO gains are getting the most significant gains in terms of a 34% raise it kind of makes my blood boil because that's an incomplete answer. There are so many other factors that need to be taken into account.

Not to mention the opportunity cost that I don't really see mentioned here. That being how by raising the starting wages as well as the rest of the payacales above what all the other carriers in Canada are offering. It means they have to compete for pilots again. Meaning they will have to increase starting wages and their payacales to attract pilots to keep their operations from bleeding. Which could lead to exactly what happened in the states where you saw ALPA getting much better deals for their pilots and significant signing bonuses.

This is why I suggested maybe everyone start focusing on the QOL improvements everyone wanted that no one seems to be receiving with this contract. I think that brings everyone to common ground. I'm sure everyone is pissed about that.

[PA-18]

I haven't seen it done, so I've attached the table posted earlier this month where I wrote the real numbers (US converted to CAD for Delta wages).

I only calculated for NB. You can see that the TA is bringing the FO wages from 60% to 160% of Delta, when the Captains are around 60% of Delta everywhere.

I don't really see that as a North America contract, so how can it be a WC contrat one?

There's still hope.
United got their huge raise after rejecting their first TA.
WJ mechanics did the same, Transat FAs as well.

Nice chart, however we pay our bills in CDN dollars, they pay their bills in American dollars, so it’s a faulty comparison.
If their hydro bill is 400 and our hydro is 400, 400 dollars is coming out of the account, I’m all for dollar for dollar but expecting 451 cdn because they make 334 US is out of touch with reality

It’s not out of touch at all. I think you’ve been brain washed. I actually learned this when I was a youngster buying magazines and comic books. Next time you look at one go look at the price on the back cover and you’ll see 4.99US/7.99 CAD. Because our CAD is worth less, we need to spend more of it to get the same return. So se have to make up for it. Now if you want to look at wages, It works the same way. You can start with minimum wage. Minimum wage has always being greater in Canada vs USA until recent years when some states are actually catching up in purchasing power. There is no good reason to not compare our dollar value when relating it directly to work performed. You mentioned buying a million $ house. You’ll also get far more house for a million in the USA than Canada. Here’s an easy comparison. Go price out a vehicle between the 2 countries. It’s really getting old this whole Canadian contract, Canadian wages and CAD$ BS. Let’s see it for what it really is. Do our employers buy airplanes and fuel in CAD and expect the same amount that 1 USD would return?

[CaptDukeNukem]

Nice chart, however we pay our bills in CDN dollars, they pay their bills in American dollars, so it’s a faulty comparison.
If their hydro bill is 400 and our hydro is 400, 400 dollars is coming out of the account, I’m all for dollar for dollar but expecting 451 cdn because they make 334 US is out of touch with reality

The point is the MEC posted the original "dollar for dollar" chart to pretend they got within a few percent of Delta's rates. The OP has corrected the currency conversion to cut the bullshit, and show how far apart the new wages still are from being close to US legacy rates.

You are NOT far apart based on actual wages, they are in the US and you are in Canada, all Canadians get paid in cdn currency and US workers get paid in US currency, that’s how it works.
334 hour there and 334 hour here are equivalent, other than our taxes are far more than most states.
If you buy a house here for a million or there for a million, you are paying a million in your currency, you’re not paying 1.3 million cdn for the same house. If you want to be paid in US equivalent wages, you should go to the US

Say what? You think 334$ USD is the same as 334 CDN? I don’t follow. Do you eat cats and dogs?

Half a week ago you were complaining about booking porter on myidtravel in USD. You’re a joke

[khedrei]

Since we should compare currencies equally because we pay our bills in those currencies, I guess we should be shooting for a Mexican pilots salary.

So if Mexican pilots want more than 400k pesos they are out to lunch because if a US pilot makes that.

Or wait... 400k Pesos is only like 50k USD...

OOPS.

Here is the money man showing again just how much he knows about money....

Actually I think I'll go for the Indonesian pilots salary. I think their dollar is like 1 million:1

[khedrei]

This is from last year and does mention the cost of buying a house in Canada has risen so much but other than that depending on where you live in both countries, they have their cost advantages and disadvantages.
I also found many other articles that basically say the same thing, the wages are generally higher in the US owing to the cost of living generally being higher.
Of course part of that is healthcare insurance which if your company pays, you have an advantage but when you retire, who pays then?
I also found an income tax comparison and in most states at the income level of 300k or more they will pay more tax, I just don’t see the argument here, you live and work in Canada, you are paid in CDN currency and you pay your bills in Canadaian currency.
https://www.springfinancial.ca/blog/lif ... -expensive

Scenerio Cost in the US Cost in Canada
Rent $1,702 $1,774
Utilities $429.33 $348
annual cost of food$5,259 $3,564
Annual car insurance $2,014 $2,000
Health insurance monthly $600 $0

Conclusion

Overall, both Canada and the US are fairly expensive to live in. Canada has much higher housing costs but healthcare costs are much more expensive in the US. While US salaries are slightly higher, Canadians have a much easier time making a higher salary with less education. Honestly, both of the countries have positive and negative aspects when it comes to being affordable. Overall though, the Canada cost parameters are lower. This means overall the cost of living and consumer prices are higher in the US, which justifies the higher wages. The affordability of these places is hard to base on an average because it all depends on the career that you choose as well. While the US has more startup companies and educated positions, a lot of Canadian careers are in other fields like trades. These things also make a big difference in which country is better.

I'm not sure what income tax calculator you're using but the State with the highest taxes (california) a 300k income would have you paying 113k. Same income in Ontario has you paying 121k.

If you lived in a state with no income tax like Florida, Texas Montana and many others, you'd have about 35k more money.

So tell me... how is 121k(ontario) less than 113k(california) or 87k(florida)

Waiting for more financial advice from the guy that thinks today's living wage isn't as important of a promise of a huge wage in 10 years...

[cdnavater]

Since we should compare currencies equally because we pay our bills in those currencies, I guess we should be shooting for a Mexican pilots salary.

So if Mexican pilots want more than 400k pesos they are out to lunch because if a US pilot makes that.

Or wait... 400k Pesos is only like 50k USD...

OOPS.

Here is the money man showing again just how much he knows about money....

Actually I think I'll go for the Indonesian pilots salary. I think their dollar is like 1 million:1

No, we don’t live in those countries, Jesus you guys are thick.
Of course if we import it from the US we will pay more for it, duh, our dollar is 70%ish.
334k in Canada buying Canadian shit is very much equivalent to 334k in the US buying US shit, if you want to avoid paying a premium on stuff made in the US buy more stuff made in Canada.
Anyhow, you keep telling yourself that you should be paid 451/hour because American pilots make 334/hr, guess you’ll just go through life extremely disappointed because there is zero chance of that ever happening!

[cdnavater]

This is from last year and does mention the cost of buying a house in Canada has risen so much but other than that depending on where you live in both countries, they have their cost advantages and disadvantages.
I also found many other articles that basically say the same thing, the wages are generally higher in the US owing to the cost of living generally being higher.
Of course part of that is healthcare insurance which if your company pays, you have an advantage but when you retire, who pays then?
I also found an income tax comparison and in most states at the income level of 300k or more they will pay more tax, I just don’t see the argument here, you live and work in Canada, you are paid in CDN currency and you pay your bills in Canadaian currency.
https://www.springfinancial.ca/blog/lif ... -expensive

Scenerio Cost in the US Cost in Canada
Rent $1,702 $1,774
Utilities $429.33 $348
annual cost of food$5,259 $3,564
Annual car insurance $2,014 $2,000
Health insurance monthly $600 $0

Conclusion

Overall, both Canada and the US are fairly expensive to live in. Canada has much higher housing costs but healthcare costs are much more expensive in the US. While US salaries are slightly higher, Canadians have a much easier time making a higher salary with less education. Honestly, both of the countries have positive and negative aspects when it comes to being affordable. Overall though, the Canada cost parameters are lower. This means overall the cost of living and consumer prices are higher in the US, which justifies the higher wages. The affordability of these places is hard to base on an average because it all depends on the career that you choose as well. While the US has more startup companies and educated positions, a lot of Canadian careers are in other fields like trades. These things also make a big difference in which country is better.

I'm not sure what income tax calculator you're using but the State with the highest taxes (california) a 300k income would have you paying 113k. Same income in Ontario has you paying 121k.

If you lived in a state with no income tax like Florida, Texas Montana and many others, you'd have about 35k more money.

So tell me... how is 121k(ontario) less than 113k(california) or 87k(florida)

Waiting for more financial advice from the guy that thinks today's living wage isn't as important of a promise of a huge wage in 10 years...

https://theaccountingandtax.com/taxes-i ... in-the-us/

In Canada, federal income tax rates for individuals in 2023 are as follows:

15% on the first $53,359 of taxable income
20.5% on income over $53,359 up to $106,717
26% on income over $106,717 up to $165,430
29% on income over $165,430 up to $235,675
33% on income over $235,675
United States

In the US, federal income tax rates for individuals in 2023 are:

10% on the first $11,000 of taxable income
12% on income over $11,000 up to $44,725
22% on income over $44,725 up to $95,375
24% on income over $95,375 up to $182,100
32% on income over $182,100 up to $231,250
35% on income over $231,250 up to $578,125
37% on income over $578,125

Each Canadian province has its own tax brackets and rates, which are added to the federal tax. For example, Ontario’s 2023 tax rates are:

5.05% on the first $47,630 of taxable income
9.15% on income over $47,630 up to $95,259
11.16% on income over $95,259 up to $150,000
12.16% on income over $150,000 up to $220,000
13.16% on income over $220,000
United States

US states have varied income tax policies. Some states, like Texas and Florida, have no state income tax, while others, like California and New York, have multiple tax brackets. California’s 2023 tax rates, for example, are:

1% on the first $10,099 of taxable income
2% on income over $10,099 up to $23,942
4% on income over $23,942 up to $37,788
6% on income over $37,788 up to $52,455
8% on income over $52,455 up to $66,295
9.3% on income over $66,295 up to $338,639
10.3% on income over $338,639 up to $406,364
11.3% on income over $406,364 up to $677,275
12.3% on income over $677,275

[cdnavater]

The point is the MEC posted the original "dollar for dollar" chart to pretend they got within a few percent of Delta's rates. The OP has corrected the currency conversion to cut the bullshit, and show how far apart the new wages still are from being close to US legacy rates.

You are NOT far apart based on actual wages, they are in the US and you are in Canada, all Canadians get paid in cdn currency and US workers get paid in US currency, that’s how it works.
334 hour there and 334 hour here are equivalent, other than our taxes are far more than most states.
If you buy a house here for a million or there for a million, you are paying a million in your currency, you’re not paying 1.3 million cdn for the same house. If you want to be paid in US equivalent wages, you should go to the US

Say what? You think 334$ USD is the same as 334 CDN? I don’t follow. Do you eat cats and dogs?

Half a week ago you were complaining about booking porter on myidtravel in USD. You’re a joke

Yes you fuc king dough head, I’m a Canadian buying a ticket on a Canadian airline, earning Canadian wages, I would expect to pay in fuc king Canadian currency. You should expect the same, idiot!

[Lt. Daniel Kaffee]

I love this discussion...

So riddle me this. Should the CDN peso rise in value (like in 2011 when the $CDN peso > $USD), in the future should the canadian pilots take a pay cut in their Collective Agreement?

[TPP]

One of the biggest problems in Canada is we are less productive than US and our dollar has taken a nose dive.

I would LOVE this magic math to work where we get salaries converted from today's USD rates converted to Canadian.

Alot of the gripes with this TA are justified, this is not one of them.

Because AC Corp gets paid in Canadian dollars, and many expenses are in US dollars, like when they fuel up in US, or fuel up world wide with our weaker dollars, they do not extract US profit margins.

Same goes for current buying power for new aircraft.

So should we as an industry strive for dollar for dollar pay in CDN currency? Absolutely.

But this unjustified rage that we are not paid in US converted salaries unfortunately shows some people do not understand how business works on a global scale.

[rudder]

Didn’t get DL pay scale (non-currency adjusted) yet there is a debate about DL pay (currency adjusted)?

Seems odd.

[khedrei]

I'm still waiting for Mr Money to explain how taxes are higher in the US...

[cdnavater]

I'm still waiting for Mr Money to explain how taxes are higher in the US...

Go eat a bag of dicks, I’m done with you and your fuc king whining, what makes you think AC would even hire you!
You come across as a whiny bitch and I’m sure that would shine through, enjoy your modest retirement, and really who cares how much tax they pay in the US, you can’t work there anyway.
I’m doing alright, I’ll have at least 140k annually for my retirement, so I don’t really give a rats ass about AC not offering enough to entice you, I say it’s a good thing, I wouldn’t want to sit beside you for hours listening to how you were screwed!

[khedrei]

I'm still waiting for Mr Money to explain how taxes are higher in the US...

Go eat a bag of dicks, I’m done with you and your fuc king whining, what makes you think AC would even hire you!
You come across as a whiny bitch and I’m sure that would shine through, enjoy your modest retirement, and really who cares how much tax they pay in the US, you can’t work there anyway.
I’m doing alright, I’ll have at least 140k annually for my retirement, so I don’t really give a rats ass about AC not offering enough to entice you, I say it’s a good thing, I wouldn’t want to sit beside you for hours listening to how you were screwed!

Well that didn't really explain how taxes are higher in the US...

At no point did I say i wanted to work for AC. And that certainly isnt what we were talking about here. It's very likely I will be able to work in the US soon, but that wasn't the point.

Don't you think the name calling and vulgar language is getting a bit old....?

Also, i didn't realize you worked for AC

[cdnavater]

I'm still waiting for Mr Money to explain how taxes are higher in the US...

Go eat a bag of dicks, I’m done with you and your fuc king whining, what makes you think AC would even hire you!
You come across as a whiny bitch and I’m sure that would shine through, enjoy your modest retirement, and really who cares how much tax they pay in the US, you can’t work there anyway.
I’m doing alright, I’ll have at least 140k annually for my retirement, so I don’t really give a rats ass about AC not offering enough to entice you, I say it’s a good thing, I wouldn’t want to sit beside you for hours listening to how you were screwed!

Well that didn't really explain how taxes are higher in the US...

At no point did I say i wanted to work for AC. And that certainly isnt what we were talking about here. It's very likely I will be able to work in the US soon, but that wasn't the point.

Don't you think the name calling and vulgar language is getting a bit old....?

Also, i didn't realize you worked for AC

Last response to you, your passive aggressive insults are getting tiring, so I give you something that bothers you!
As for the taxes, maybe more was an exaggeration, it’s definitely close depending on province and state, it is very comparable but you have the added expense of healthcare insurance if your employer doesn’t cover it, I showed you the tax brackets, it’s not far off, 300k in California for a single pays just a hair over 96k in tax, worst case! In Canada worst case for 300k is Que 125k, Alberta 105k, I’ll concede you pay less tax in the US, umm k!
Overall, the cost of living in the US is higher, where I am, I get a lot of house for a million, so if you can’t afford to live where you are, move, many, many people leaving the great state of California for cheaper pastures
So, if you have the ability to go work in the US(yah right!) give er, get off your high horse about AC starting pay then, it doesn’t affect you
Also, I don’t work for AC, I was speaking in general terms, you sound whiny and you like to complain, quit your bitching, move on with your plan to work in the good old USA, buh bye!

[khedrei]

You were giving me something that bothers me? Totally missed it. Calling me childish names like you are still in high school doesn't phase me. I have lots of friends where I work, thanks.

If you think I'm the only one who is disappointed in starting pay rates at AC you have missed a lot in here. I genuinly believe it's sad for the whole industry.

I'm also not sure why I would lie about the US, but ok.

Thanks for acknowledging that you were wrong on the taxes at least.

I'm glad you are done responding to me. Thanks!