SHOW UNITY. VOTE NO!

[rudder]

I see you edited your post. I was going to reply to your comment that you'll never understand why someone might vote contrary t
It’s important to remember that peoples perception of risk is influenced by past experience and if you’ve been in this business for as long as the senior pilots, your risk tolerance will be very, if not extremely low.
I think it would be fair to say, the majority of the NOs are in the younger demographic, perhaps 25-30, while the majority of the YESes would be in the 45-60, leaving a gap of swing voters 31-44.
If you haven’t truly had to deal with the consequences of your actions for your whole life, you personally feel there are no consequences, hence the young crowd thinking a NO vote will simply send it back for massive improvements while unicorns and rainbows fill the skies.
This is where Duke likes to point out the Jazz 17 year deal and I respond it’s a direct result of SR pilots undercutting us, so we can skip that, ok, Duke?
It does however illustrate my point about consequences, so there is that!
The younger generation of pilots have not had to fail anything in their brief existence, they don’t deal well with failure. I’ve literally had pilots cry and say things like my career is over after a failure during initial training.
I know of pilots who showed up unprepared for the session and couldn’t answer the questions for the pre sim briefing, when it was time to go in the SIM, they told the instructor they needed 15 minutes to meditate, he responded well the slot is 4 hours and I’ll be in there waiting, but there will be consequences if we don’t get done, they were almost too upset to continue the session, they’re words!
This is just to say, the everyone gets a ribbon generation doesn’t really know what can happen, like Aerkavo said, it MIGHT get more or it MIGHT get arbitration and lose some of the things agreed to that no one else has got, it’s a gamble, that is a guarantee!
Good luck to the AC pilots!

Lol your lack of self awareness is disturbing boomer. It's really pathetic that you think you're the only ones that ever faced any adversity in your lives or careers.

Let me ask you a few things: Did you get laid off during covid? What about during the 2008 recession? How much did you pay for your first home?

Your whining is worse than any millennial or gen z. You are the most spoiled and entitled generation in the history of mankind. Gifted everything by the golden generation of your parents and all you've ever done is make it worse for everyone else since. You've only gotten to where you are by stepping on those beneath you. Seriously, go away. The world will be a much better place when the last of you are rotting away in nursing homes.

I feel sorry for those first time home buyers in YYZ/YVR. Basically unaffordable. However, there are lots of post-boomer generation pilots that will earn 3-4 times more than their predecessors and accumulate a pension equally valuable. So what they are penalized in real estate cost they will recover in career earnings and post-retirement earnings.

I think that the current and future year 1-4 year pilots got screwed in pay in the TA. I think that every AC pilot other than the top 10-20% of the WB pilot rosters got screwed in QOL.

But nobody other than an eligible AC pilot gets to vote on the TA. Everything else is just opinion. The result will be borne by the group and will manifest in the cockpit environment of every AC flight for the next 4 years.

If anybody at AC feels screwed by the ultimate outcome of the TA ratification, they weren't screwed by a generation. They were screwed by their peers. There aren’t enough boomer votes to add up to 50%+1.

[CaptDukeNukem]

I see you edited your post. I was going to reply to your comment that you'll never understand why someone might vote contrary t
It’s important to remember that peoples perception of risk is influenced by past experience and if you’ve been in this business for as long as the senior pilots, your risk tolerance will be very, if not extremely low.
I think it would be fair to say, the majority of the NOs are in the younger demographic, perhaps 25-30, while the majority of the YESes would be in the 45-60, leaving a gap of swing voters 31-44.
If you haven’t truly had to deal with the consequences of your actions for your whole life, you personally feel there are no consequences, hence the young crowd thinking a NO vote will simply send it back for massive improvements while unicorns and rainbows fill the skies.
This is where Duke likes to point out the Jazz 17 year deal and I respond it’s a direct result of SR pilots undercutting us, so we can skip that, ok, Duke?
It does however illustrate my point about consequences, so there is that!
The younger generation of pilots have not had to fail anything in their brief existence, they don’t deal well with failure. I’ve literally had pilots cry and say things like my career is over after a failure during initial training.
I know of pilots who showed up unprepared for the session and couldn’t answer the questions for the pre sim briefing, when it was time to go in the SIM, they told the instructor they needed 15 minutes to meditate, he responded well the slot is 4 hours and I’ll be in there waiting, but there will be consequences if we don’t get done, they were almost too upset to continue the session, they’re words!
This is just to say, the everyone gets a ribbon generation doesn’t really know what can happen, like Aerkavo said, it MIGHT get more or it MIGHT get arbitration and lose some of the things agreed to that no one else has got, it’s a gamble, that is a guarantee!
Good luck to the AC pilots!

Lol your lack of self awareness is disturbing boomer. It's really pathetic that you think you're the only ones that ever faced any adversity in your lives or careers.

Let me ask you a few things: Did you get laid off during covid? What about during the 2008 recession? How much did you pay for your first home?

Your whining is worse than any millennial or gen z. You are the most spoiled and entitled generation in the history of mankind. Gifted everything by the golden generation of your parents and all you've ever done is make it worse for everyone else since. You've only gotten to where you are by stepping on those beneath you. Seriously, go away. The world will be a much better place when the last of you are rotting away in nursing homes.

I feel sorry for those first time home buyers in YYZ/YVR. Basically unaffordable. However, there are lots of post-boomer generation pilots that will earn 3-4 times more than their predecessors and accumulate a pension equally valuable. So what they are penalized in real estate cost they will recover in career earnings and post-retirement earnings.

I think that the current and future year 1-4 year pilots got screwed in pay in the TA. I think that every AC pilot other than the top 10-20% of the WB pilot rosters got screwed in QOL.

But nobody other than an eligible AC pilot gets to vote on the TA. Everything else is just opinion. The result will be borne by the group and will manifest in the cockpit environment of every AC flight for the next 4 years.

If anybody at AC feels screwed by the ultimate outcome of the TA ratification, they weren't screwed by a generation. They were screwed by their peers. There aren’t enough boomer votes to add up to 50%+1.

Yet the company knows exactly how to send a 98% united union scrambling for the crumbs at 50/50%, or maybe 66%\34%
Boomers still here making up a percentage of the vote
Terrifying.

[freighter27]

Boomers?
The youngest of the baby boomer generation is approximately 57 years old.
How large a proportion of the Air Canada pilot group fits into this demographic?
How well represented is this generation in the union executive and negotiating committee?
As has been stated before, it is most likely that if this deal passes, "boomers" will have little to do with it.
Does blaming boomers make you feel better? Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you are attacking those who were just lucky enough to have been born and hired before you?
The boomers will soon be gone, will you start insulting and attacking Gen X? Then Y.
What happens when its your turn to be attacked, or by then will you have fixed all the problems that the boomers are causing?

[cdnavater]

I see you edited your post. I was going to reply to your comment that you'll never understand why someone might vote contrary t
It’s important to remember that peoples perception of risk is influenced by past experience and if you’ve been in this business for as long as the senior pilots, your risk tolerance will be very, if not extremely low.
I think it would be fair to say, the majority of the NOs are in the younger demographic, perhaps 25-30, while the majority of the YESes would be in the 45-60, leaving a gap of swing voters 31-44.
If you haven’t truly had to deal with the consequences of your actions for your whole life, you personally feel there are no consequences, hence the young crowd thinking a NO vote will simply send it back for massive improvements while unicorns and rainbows fill the skies.
This is where Duke likes to point out the Jazz 17 year deal and I respond it’s a direct result of SR pilots undercutting us, so we can skip that, ok, Duke?
It does however illustrate my point about consequences, so there is that!
The younger generation of pilots have not had to fail anything in their brief existence, they don’t deal well with failure. I’ve literally had pilots cry and say things like my career is over after a failure during initial training.
I know of pilots who showed up unprepared for the session and couldn’t answer the questions for the pre sim briefing, when it was time to go in the SIM, they told the instructor they needed 15 minutes to meditate, he responded well the slot is 4 hours and I’ll be in there waiting, but there will be consequences if we don’t get done, they were almost too upset to continue the session, they’re words!
This is just to say, the everyone gets a ribbon generation doesn’t really know what can happen, like Aerkavo said, it MIGHT get more or it MIGHT get arbitration and lose some of the things agreed to that no one else has got, it’s a gamble, that is a guarantee!
Good luck to the AC pilots!

Lol your lack of self awareness is disturbing boomer. It's really pathetic that you think you're the only ones that ever faced any adversity in your lives or careers.

Let me ask you a few things: Did you get laid off during covid? What about during the 2008 recession? How much did you pay for your first home?

Your whining is worse than any millennial or gen z. You are the most spoiled and entitled generation in the history of mankind. Gifted everything by the golden generation of your parents and all you've ever done is make it worse for everyone else since. You've only gotten to where you are by stepping on those beneath you. Seriously, go away. The world will be a much better place when the last of you are rotting away in nursing homes.

Oh no, you got laid off during Covid, boo friggen hoo!
I’ve been through exactly four downturns and a few minor, 1990-1992, 9/11, 2008, Covid, I’ve started over more times than I care to remember, I also lived through 9 years in the right seat because there was zero movement, so screw off with this poor is me bullshit! Whining, hah my generation just tells you whiny friggen lazy fucktards to shut the hell up and do some work, off course you wouldn’t know what that is!

[CaptDukeNukem]

I see you edited your post. I was going to reply to your comment that you'll never understand why someone might vote contrary t
It’s important to remember that peoples perception of risk is influenced by past experience and if you’ve been in this business for as long as the senior pilots, your risk tolerance will be very, if not extremely low.
I think it would be fair to say, the majority of the NOs are in the younger demographic, perhaps 25-30, while the majority of the YESes would be in the 45-60, leaving a gap of swing voters 31-44.
If you haven’t truly had to deal with the consequences of your actions for your whole life, you personally feel there are no consequences, hence the young crowd thinking a NO vote will simply send it back for massive improvements while unicorns and rainbows fill the skies.
This is where Duke likes to point out the Jazz 17 year deal and I respond it’s a direct result of SR pilots undercutting us, so we can skip that, ok, Duke?
It does however illustrate my point about consequences, so there is that!
The younger generation of pilots have not had to fail anything in their brief existence, they don’t deal well with failure. I’ve literally had pilots cry and say things like my career is over after a failure during initial training.
I know of pilots who showed up unprepared for the session and couldn’t answer the questions for the pre sim briefing, when it was time to go in the SIM, they told the instructor they needed 15 minutes to meditate, he responded well the slot is 4 hours and I’ll be in there waiting, but there will be consequences if we don’t get done, they were almost too upset to continue the session, they’re words!
This is just to say, the everyone gets a ribbon generation doesn’t really know what can happen, like Aerkavo said, it MIGHT get more or it MIGHT get arbitration and lose some of the things agreed to that no one else has got, it’s a gamble, that is a guarantee!
Good luck to the AC pilots!

Lol your lack of self awareness is disturbing boomer. It's really pathetic that you think you're the only ones that ever faced any adversity in your lives or careers.

Let me ask you a few things: Did you get laid off during covid? What about during the 2008 recession? How much did you pay for your first home?

Your whining is worse than any millennial or gen z. You are the most spoiled and entitled generation in the history of mankind. Gifted everything by the golden generation of your parents and all you've ever done is make it worse for everyone else since. You've only gotten to where you are by stepping on those beneath you. Seriously, go away. The world will be a much better place when the last of you are rotting away in nursing homes.

Oh no, you got laid off during Covid, boo friggen hoo!
I’ve been through exactly four downturns and a few minor, 1990-1992, 9/11, 2008, Covid, I’ve started over more times than I care to remember, I also lived through 9 years in the right seat because there was zero movement, so screw off with this poor is me bullshit! Whining, hah my generation just tells you whiny friggen lazy fucktards to shut the hell up and do some work, off course you wouldn’t know what that is!

Is that why you voted in a B scale? Come on you “fucktard”. Quit bitching about how we ruined your shit and own up to yours

[CaptDukeNukem]

All you give a crap about is watching your own trainees suffer. If you even cared a shred as to their success you would immediately stop this anger towards the “new generation”. You’re a cancer, mentour pilot gonna feature you for hours on his channel and make 100x what you ever made at jazz

[CaptDukeNukem]

This guy making so much bank he stopped flying. Something need to be said about that

[short bus]

calm down

[CaptDukeNukem]

Wear your orange lanyard.

[rudder]

Boomers?
The youngest of the baby boomer generation is approximately 57 years old.
How large a proportion of the Air Canada pilot group fits into this demographic?
How well represented is this generation in the union executive and negotiating committee?
As has been stated before, it is most likely that if this deal passes, "boomers" will have little to do with it.
Does blaming boomers make you feel better? Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you are attacking those who were just lucky enough to have been born and hired before you?
The boomers will soon be gone, will you start insulting and attacking Gen X? Then Y.
What happens when its your turn to be attacked, or by then will you have fixed all the problems that the boomers are causing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

Youngest boomer is 60 this year.

[khedrei]

Boomers?
The youngest of the baby boomer generation is approximately 57 years old.
How large a proportion of the Air Canada pilot group fits into this demographic?
How well represented is this generation in the union executive and negotiating committee?
As has been stated before, it is most likely that if this deal passes, "boomers" will have little to do with it.
Does blaming boomers make you feel better? Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you are attacking those who were just lucky enough to have been born and hired before you?
The boomers will soon be gone, will you start insulting and attacking Gen X? Then Y.
What happens when its your turn to be attacked, or by then will you have fixed all the problems that the boomers are causing?

Are you acknowledging that the boomers caused lots of problems and were the most entitled generation in history?

[Aerkavo]

Is that why you voted in a B scale? Come on you “fucktard”. Quit bitching about how we ruined your shit and own up to yours

Obviously unclear of basic definitions - AC does not have, and will not have after this TA gets passed, a "B" scale.

[Aerkavo]

Boomers?
The youngest of the baby boomer generation is approximately 57 years old.
How large a proportion of the Air Canada pilot group fits into this demographic?
How well represented is this generation in the union executive and negotiating committee?
As has been stated before, it is most likely that if this deal passes, "boomers" will have little to do with it.
Does blaming boomers make you feel better? Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you are attacking those who were just lucky enough to have been born and hired before you?
The boomers will soon be gone, will you start insulting and attacking Gen X? Then Y.
What happens when its your turn to be attacked, or by then will you have fixed all the problems that the boomers are causing?

Are you acknowledging that the boomers caused lots of problems and were the most entitled generation in history?

Do you have a reading problem? I know, lots of big words there. Take your time, sound it out. Here's a link to a dictionary: https://www.dictionary.com/

[Aerkavo]

This guy making so much bank he stopped flying. Something need to be said about that

I would say that based on the multiple angry posts within a short time on a Saturday night that these were done while under the influence? I could be wrong - no accusation. Kinda sad that someone would spend their Saturday night sitting at home, drinking and posting on an anonymous internet forum but it would explain the anger. Well, if that's what happened, of course.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Is that why you voted in a B scale? Come on you “fucktard”. Quit bitching about how we ruined your shit and own up to yours

Obviously unclear of basic definitions - AC does not have, and will not have after this TA gets passed, a "B" scale.

I was yelling at Cdnavater. He’s not AC, he’s jazz and he absolutely voted in a B scale

[cdnavater]

Is that why you voted in a B scale? Come on you “fucktard”. Quit bitching about how we ruined your shit and own up to yours

Obviously unclear of basic definitions - AC does not have, and will not have after this TA gets passed, a "B" scale.

I was yelling at Cdnavater. He’s not AC, he’s jazz and he absolutely voted in a B scale

Lolz

[khedrei]

Boomers?
The youngest of the baby boomer generation is approximately 57 years old.
How large a proportion of the Air Canada pilot group fits into this demographic?
How well represented is this generation in the union executive and negotiating committee?
As has been stated before, it is most likely that if this deal passes, "boomers" will have little to do with it.
Does blaming boomers make you feel better? Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you are attacking those who were just lucky enough to have been born and hired before you?
The boomers will soon be gone, will you start insulting and attacking Gen X? Then Y.
What happens when its your turn to be attacked, or by then will you have fixed all the problems that the boomers are causing?

Are you acknowledging that the boomers caused lots of problems and were the most entitled generation in history?

Do you have a reading problem? I know, lots of big words there. Take your time, sound it out. Here's a link to a dictionary: https://www.dictionary.com/

Not at all. Your post clearly states that the boomers are unlikely to represent enough of the AC pilot group to influence the vote in any major way. I would agree with that. You didn't appear to disagree that they were the most entitled generation in history who had it easier than everyone coming after them (fact). So I asked a simple question. It's the "?" That got you wasn't it? You don't know what that means? I wanted to know if you thought that boomers were in fact a generation that had higher paying, more easily obtained, reliable jobs requiring less education than anyone coming after them. It's called a question. If you plug in the word "question" into that link you sent, it will explain what it is.

[altiplano]

Millennials hate Boomers.

Boomers victimized Millennials.

Blah fucking blah.

You're both the most entitled.

Gen X still hates you all.

[Aerkavo]

Are you acknowledging that the boomers caused lots of problems and were the most entitled generation in history?

Do you have a reading problem? I know, lots of big words there. Take your time, sound it out. Here's a link to a dictionary: https://www.dictionary.com/

Not at all. Your post clearly states that the boomers are unlikely to represent enough of the AC pilot group to influence the vote in any major way. I would agree with that. You didn't appear to disagree that they were the most entitled generation in history who had it easier than everyone coming after them (fact). So I asked a simple question. It's the "?" That got you wasn't it? You don't know what that means? I wanted to know if you thought that boomers were in fact a generation that had higher paying, more easily obtained, reliable jobs requiring less education than anyone coming after them. It's called a question. If you plug in the word "question" into that link you sent, it will explain what it is.

I think you do have a reading problem;

1.) It wasn't my post.
2.) You didn't reply to any of the very specific points the poster made.
3.) You replied with a non sequitor and attempted to change the discussion to "Boomers Bad" rather than moving the discussion forward on the original topic.

Numerous posters have tried to show you that the high level "Boomers Bad" misses huge swathes of people who did not benefit from the population bubble - in particular pilots who although they may have been in the boomer cohort did not benefit to the degree you imagine.

Look, I get it, housing prices are crazy. I have two kids who are facing this but your anger at the few hundred pilots out of 5400 who happen to fall in this group is misplaced. I've written on these threads about the very real challenges and setbacks I've had in my career as have others and all I get in return is "SHUTUP BOOMER!"

I don't know how much clearer I can be. I'm in my last 5 years before retirement and still have a mortgage and it's no mansion either. I live in a normal house in a secondary city and commute because I can't afford Toronto either. I didn't have a senior schedule and when my kids were young had to balance it against making more money and suffering even more. Many people of my age and seniority are in the same situation. This idea that everyone in the boomer cohort is rich and living a life with sports cars and sailboats is simply wrong. Blaming the senior guys for your hardships is wrong.

If you're looking for someone to blame look at the government for their open-door immigration policy or their monetary policy - there's your problem.

[rookiepilot]

Do you have a reading problem? I know, lots of big words there. Take your time, sound it out. Here's a link to a dictionary: https://www.dictionary.com/

Not at all. Your post clearly states that the boomers are unlikely to represent enough of the AC pilot group to influence the vote in any major way. I would agree with that. You didn't appear to disagree that they were the most entitled generation in history who had it easier than everyone coming after them (fact). So I asked a simple question. It's the "?" That got you wasn't it? You don't know what that means? I wanted to know if you thought that boomers were in fact a generation that had higher paying, more easily obtained, reliable jobs requiring less education than anyone coming after them. It's called a question. If you plug in the word "question" into that link you sent, it will explain what it is.

I think you do have a reading problem;

1.) It wasn't my post.
2.) You didn't reply to any of the very specific points the poster made.
3.) You replied with a non sequitor and attempted to change the discussion to "Boomers Bad" rather than moving the discussion forward on the original topic.

Numerous posters have tried to show you that the high level "Boomers Bad" misses huge swathes of people who did not benefit from the population bubble - in particular pilots who although they may have been in the boomer cohort did not benefit to the degree you imagine.

Look, I get it, housing prices are crazy. I have two kids who are facing this but your anger at the few hundred pilots out of 5400 who happen to fall in this group is misplaced. I've written on these threads about the very real challenges and setbacks I've had in my career as have others and all I get in return is "SHUTUP BOOMER!"

I don't know how much clearer I can be. I'm in my last 5 years before retirement and still have a mortgage and it's no mansion either. I live in a normal house in a secondary city and commute because I can't afford Toronto either. I didn't have a senior schedule and when my kids were young had to balance it against making more money and suffering even more. Many people of my age and seniority are in the same situation. This idea that everyone in the boomer cohort is rich and living a life with sports cars and sailboats is simply wrong. Blaming the senior guys for your hardships is wrong.

If you're looking for someone to blame look at the government for their open-door immigration policy or their monetary policy - there's your problem.

Let’s be honest here.

The government has both of these policies because boomers, until now the largest, and certainly most activist voting block, and retiring in large numbers, want both of these policies to pay for exploding government funded, retirement and medical obligations, without losing any benefits.

The alternative which would be much, much better for the country in the long run, are policies that the grey vote would go ballistic over: Cutting costs.

Hard austerity : strict means testing (net worth testing) for all public pension / OAS payments, and significant user fees for the medical system and all public services.

20 bucks to see a doctor. 100 bucks for an ER visit.

No pharmacare, no dental, no nothing. Tax sale of primary residence. Raise property taxes. Remove all exemptions for sales taxes.

Cut income taxes.

[Aerkavo]

Let’s be honest here.

The government has both of these policies because boomers, until now the largest, and certainly most activist voting block, and retiring in large numbers, want both of these policies to pay for exploding government funded, retirement and medical obligations, without losing any benefits.

The alternative which would be much, much better for the country in the long run, are policies that the grey vote would go ballistic over: Cutting costs.

Hard austerity : strict means testing (net worth testing) for all public pension / OAS payments, and significant user fees for the medical system and all public services.

20 bucks to see a doctor. 100 bucks for an ER visit.

No pharmacare, no dental, no nothing. Tax sale of primary residence. Raise property taxes. Remove all exemptions for sales taxes.

Cut income taxes.

Awesome. And this has what to do with AC and the TA?

You want to drastically change the social contract and tax the hell out of the boomers? Fine. This has nothing to do with the TA but it almost makes me wish that we really had negotiated a "B" scale. A little parting gift from the boomers for the next generation.

In 10 or 20 years all the wealth with be transferred to your generation and then you'll be the bad guys. Probably won't like all the means testing then will you? Nothing changes, every generation blames the previous for all their problems. Your time will come.

[Dry Guy]

has nothing to do with the TA but it almost makes me wish that we really had negotiated a "B" scale.

I do not wish this for others.

[Aerkavo]

I do not wish this for others.

No, I don't either. It's simply to show that the desire to inflict hardship on others - means testing and reduction of benefits - can go both ways. The TA does not have a "B" scale but you wouldn't know it from the reaction of the junior pilots.

[rookiepilot]

You want to drastically change the social contract and tax the hell out of the boomers? Fine. This has nothing to do with the TA but it almost makes me wish that we really had negotiated a "B" scale. A little parting gift from the boomers for the next generation.

Ahhhhh… the truth comes out.

But you’d rather leave the debt problem in this country to your own kids , and those kids with parents much less fortunate than you and unable to leave an inheritance, than ever vote for modest , measured structural changes that help the nation long after you’re gone. Probably rooting for the Bloc’s proposal to go nuts on OAS too.

No worries. The kids can pay for it.

Its no wonder the best and brightest leave for the USA if they can. This country attracts no talent, no entrepreneurial spirit whatsoever.

You’re the problem. Pure selfishness.

Btw I am close in age to a Boomer myself. Such changes would cost me personally. But its “what can I do for my country”. A phrase totally foreign to the boomer generation.

[Aerkavo]

You want to drastically change the social contract and tax the hell out of the boomers? Fine. This has nothing to do with the TA but it almost makes me wish that we really had negotiated a "B" scale. A little parting gift from the boomers for the next generation.

Ahhhhh… the truth comes out.

But you’d rather leave the debt problem in this country to your own kids , and those kids with parents much less fortunate than you and unable to leave an inheritance, than ever vote for modest , measured structural changes that help the nation long after you’re gone. Probably rooting for the Bloc’s proposal to go nuts on OAS too.

No worries. The kids can pay for it.

Its no wonder the best and brightest leave for the USA if they can. This country attracts no talent, no entrepreneurial spirit whatsoever.

You’re the problem. Pure selfishness.

Btw I am close in age to a Boomer myself. Such changes would cost me personally. But its “what can I do for my country”. A phrase totally foreign to the boomer generation.

Again, what does this have to do with AC and the TA? You want to discuss macroeconomics? I'm sure there's a thread for that.

You're the one who stated that legislation should be brought to punish the boomers for their actions and accumulated wealth. If this is the game - majority rules - why are you so angry? You think you can, and should use, the majority against the minority why are you against it now? Same game.

Oh, I see, when the majority is against you it's evil but when you're in the majority and working against someone else it's fair and just.