747SP YQT

GPISucks · Post by **GPISucks** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:22 am

Let's see, is that plane going to leave Thunder Bay? Still has no Airworthiness Certificate, still needs to have a DAR go over all the maintenance records, still has an ongoing investigation as to chartering the plane when it was FAA Part 91. Guessing that if it moves it will be in the early morning hours with foreign pilots. Count on the fact that the FAA and Transport Canada are watching this plane CLOSELY. Am doubtful that it will ferry to anywhere in the USA. Owner is trying to reregister this bird in a third world country where no one cares about maintenance. This guy wanted to take this plane on a long trip with no evacuation slides...and rumor has it that there are no O2 drop down masks in the forward zone..... Maybe the person working on the plane can confirm this... Also beware of the Mexican guy..

Highflyinpilot · Post by **Highflyinpilot** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:57 am

That's just phacking retarded

Redneck_pilot86 · Post by **Redneck_pilot86** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:39 pm

Well...shes moving..any details?

195psi · Post by **195psi** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:58 pm

A few companies here in the East have been contacted about doing mntc and taking care of the AD's that have not been done.
I was asked to do an estimate on manhours equipment ect.. Lot's of work nd not many hangars that can hold that Bird. Wouldn't mind the work though.

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:12 pm

Well....they taxied to the button of 30 to do engine runs. Man that thing kicks up a ton of snow. It's now back on the main apron...not sure what's next.

Probes Down · Post by **Probes Down** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:48 pm

Just picked up the latest edition of Smithsonian Air & Space and they have an article about Thunder Bays newest and largest lawn ornament. Not too much new written about it other than the owner seems to have some financial trouble. According to the article the aircraft was moved out of Cincinnati to "flee a stack of unpaid bills".

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

fingersmac · Post by **fingersmac** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:14 pm

she's parked on apron 1 right by taxiway bravo.

one of the flight instructors here called the tower and they said she was leaving tomorrow.

cyqt is gonna look bare without that beast.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:22 pm

Probes Down wrote: According to the article the aircraft was moved out of Cincinnati to "flee a stack of unpaid bills".

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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Sad to say, for those of us who love flying machines... but things really don't look good for that particular potential gold mine of beer cans.

I guess it'll depend who winds up controlling it's disposition... airplane lover, or lost money recovery artist?

The only sure thing is that she needs some serious coin to get her fit to fly!

GPISucks · Post by **GPISucks** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:10 pm

Let's see, Universal has a lien on the plane for about 450k, the owner took 850k from the Friends of The Israeli Defence Force for a charter that HE canceled the day of the trip to Poland and Israel....oh, he kept the money! Gee why did he cancel it? Seems the Israeli government would not give him THE OWNER a multiple entry visa...so he got pissed and canceled the trip. He left people stranded in LAX and EWR. He used that money to take the plane to Syria, Libya and India with only him onboard!

You can read all this stuff on the web..the owner is K.A. Paul a self-proclaimed Evangelist!!

They use Skyplan in Canada for flight planning.. Oh wait, I forgot they owe Pan Am Academy for PC's for a cockpit crew (3 crews ago)..

fingersmac · Post by **fingersmac** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:05 pm

regardless of who they owe money to, she is at present no longer occupying her old parking space. she's parked right off bravo and looks ready to leave; where to? who knows, but i'm sure it won't be too far.

YQT_AvGuy · Post by **YQT_AvGuy** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:07 am

Apparently they are waiting for a few final documents from the Feds and are planning a late afternoon departure on Wednesday (today).

As for going somewhere near I'm not to sure about that - the Capt has requested 15,000USG. Should be enough to get him to Mexico...

Hope hes got a good credit limit on the old gold card

Cheers

GPISucks · Post by **GPISucks** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:02 am

GPI had talked about taking the plane to Mexico to avoid the FAA so that sounds like a real possibility.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:02 pm

So what's the scoop?...
Has the bird flown?
Did they get their "final documents from the feds" (

) ?
Does "fit to fly" really have any meaning to those who could prevent it's departure?
Have they paid up for all fees incurred during their extended stay?
Did they pay cash for the gas?
How deep is Lake Superior?

fingersmac · Post by **fingersmac** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:20 pm

hahahha.

talkinghead · Post by **talkinghead** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:24 pm

The WXer is a little shitty so I don't think its going anywhere for a couple of days.

METAR CYQT 142100Z 12012G17KT 1SM R07/5000FT/U -SHSNGS OVC015 M00/M01
A2991 RMK SN2SC6 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP138=
SPECI CYQT 142142Z 11013KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/D -SHSNGS OVC013 M00/
RMK SN4SC4 CVCTV CLD EMBD=

METAR CYQT 142200Z 12011G16KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/N -SHSNGS VV006
M01/M01 A2989 RMK SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP133=
SPECI CYQT 142218Z 12013G18KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/D -SHSNGS VV005 M01/
RMK SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD=
SPECI CYQT 142236Z 14015KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/D -SHSNGS VV004 M01/ RMK
SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD=

METAR CYQT 142300Z 13011KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/U -SHSNGS VV004 M01/M01
A2989 RMK SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP133=

TAF AMD CYQT 142106Z 142108 14015KT 6SM -SN OVC020 TEMPO 2108 1SM -SN
OVC008
BECMG 0305 10012KT
RMK NXT FCST BY 02Z=

They also showed a picture of it on the wheather channel.

Redneck_pilot86 · Post by **Redneck_pilot86** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:38 pm

Damn, I wanted to see that thing crash before I headed home for Christmas. Somebody make sure they get a video if it ever does get going.

Highflyinpilot · Post by **Highflyinpilot** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:59 pm

Do you really want to see a 747 crash?????????? I definetly don't. Oh ya by the way, how's college going?

Cargo Pilot · Post by **Cargo Pilot** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:12 pm

The WXer is a little shitty so I don't think its going anywhere for a couple of days.

METAR CYQT 142100Z 12012G17KT 1SM R07/5000FT/U -SHSNGS OVC015 M00/M01
A2991 RMK SN2SC6 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP138=
SPECI CYQT 142142Z 11013KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/D -SHSNGS OVC013 M00/
RMK SN4SC4 CVCTV CLD EMBD=

METAR CYQT 142200Z 12011G16KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/N -SHSNGS VV006
M01/M01 A2989 RMK SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP133=
SPECI CYQT 142218Z 12013G18KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/D -SHSNGS VV005 M01/
RMK SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD=
SPECI CYQT 142236Z 14015KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/D -SHSNGS VV004 M01/ RMK
SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD=

METAR CYQT 142300Z 13011KT 3/4SM R07/P6000FT/U -SHSNGS VV004 M01/M01
A2989 RMK SN8 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP133=

TAF AMD CYQT 142106Z 142108 14015KT 6SM -SN OVC020 TEMPO 2108 1SM -SN
OVC008
BECMG 0305 10012KT
RMK NXT FCST BY 02Z=

Couple of days huh? Ah, ya - OK...

They ain't goin to do circuits, that wx is a piece of cake for just about any IFR aircraft and competent crew.

talkinghead · Post by **talkinghead** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:29 pm

This ain't no bush plane/pc12 or something. Little things like trying to deice the thing and acc.-stop distance might (I say again might

) come into play.

And I hope its not going to do circuits. I for one don't want that thing hanging around yqt airspace longer then it needs to.

CYQT

000000 CYQT THUNDER BAY
CYQT RSC 07/25 CENTRE 100 FT 50 PERCENT 1/8 INS DRY SNOW, 50 PERCENT
FROST. REMAINDER 100 PERCENT 3 INS DRY SNOW. WINDROWS UP TO 6 INS
EDGE OF CLEARED AREA. CLEARING IN PROGRESS 0512142354
CYQT CRFI 07/25 -1 .22 0512142353

GPISucks · Post by **GPISucks** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:03 pm

Competent Crew....GPI had one...all from United....then they stiffed them. Next they had good guys with a lot of 747 time, they stiffed them too..now it seems they have someone who will do anything for money... but probably does not know that GPI is known for not paying crews..

rigpiggy · Post by **rigpiggy** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:58 am

quick somebody phone the feds. goodluck on an overflight permit.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:01 am

..So what?...We're hearing now a little snow is gonna keep this particualr 747 grounded?... What's next?.... VFR only? Unpressurized only?...

Hello Alcan?

Murphy · Post by **Murphy** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:37 pm

TC has issued a temporary flight authority to this aircraft. It is scheduled to leave YQT at 0030z Dec. 16.
Destination is MMTJ.
The FAA has given it authority to overfly the USA.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:08 pm

Murphy wrote:TC has issued a temporary flight authority to this aircraft. It is scheduled to leave YQT at 0030z Dec. 16.
Destination is MMTJ.
The FAA has given it authority to overfly the USA.

I wonder if TC did any kind of inspection of the aircraft (not the books, the aircraft?) prior to issuing that temporary flight authority?

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:23 pm

I wonder if anyone at TC has the expertise to do a visual examination to determine if the operation is safe.

As long as their ass is covered and nobody can come back and point a finger that may jepordise their pension, the airplane is good to go.

Just remember that shit flows downhill, don't let any splash on you.

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