Whoa! Now THIS is a hardcore job opening...

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Whoa! Now THIS is a hardcore job opening...

Post by complexintentions »

Not trying to slam Holland Canada, they're at least being upfront about the risks, but wow...keep an eye out for those zeppelins...20k US for 25 days...where's that guy who was paying $150/day?! (Just kidding buddy, don't flame me.)



REF: 04TEE-B762/200601

We require ONE Captain - B767 Command Experienced between:
23DEC-03JAN (phase 1), and
13JAN-25JAN (phase 2).

Client: Teebah - Amman Jordan.

It is HIGH RISK - flying the Hajj out of Northern Iraq.
-BASE is in N. Iraq
-Pay is $800USD/Day - flat (inclusive) - at 25 days = $20,000USD.
-We are negotiating 4 extra days at $800/Day for Xmas/New Year.
-We are negotiating a retainer between phase 1 & 2 at $300/day.

-Travel J-Class provided - to/from and between phase 1 & 2.
-Per Diems included in the above.
-Accommodations provided - however may not be the greatest in N. Iraq.
-Operational Expenses reimbursed.



HCL has previously engaged with this client into Iraq and have found security to fine.
There are zeppelins around the Baghdad airport to counter low flying aircraft - THIS MAY NOT BE IN ANY NOTAMS. Client will brief you as they frequently charter into Iraq from Amman.

The aircraft is a B767-200 former Air Canada. It is in fair condition.

ULTIMITLY we are advising you with a 'straight approach' - this is flying into a war zone with an aircraft that is in fair condition.
Should you commit we expect you to fulfill the above term.


NOTE;
(Captains with LESS than 2000hrs COMMAND B767 - rate at $750/day)
(Pay commences per the above date(s))
(This job is NOT POSTED on our website.)


QUALIFICATION:
-Current B767.
-At least 1500 hrs COMMAND B767.
-Last flown within 24 Months.
-All Licenses accepted.
-Age 65 Okay.


APPLICATION / DISPATCH
-Make sure your online record is UP TO DATE and your MEDICAL is valid for the duration of the above dates!
-Be ready to submit the "PAPERWORK ITEMS" per instructions on our website.
-EMAIL US at: office@hollandcanadaline.com | SUBJECT: 04TEE/P1, advise us of your DEPARTURE City.
-Should you qualify - we will contact you. (Please do not send any paperwork unless advised by HCL)


Be ready to dispatch on the 21st or 22nd DEC.


Regards,

Andrew R.
Proj Mngr
HCL/YVR OPS - Vancouver BC
http://WWW.HOLLANDCANADALINE.COM
OFFICE@HOLLANDCANADALINE.COM
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Post by buck82 »

ahhh....

Suuuure..... sign me up.....

Oh by the way, I'll need a full flack jacket, body armour, parachute, chaf system installed on the plane, air to ground missles, fighter escort, and gunships on the airport ramp to help with security... oh and hopefully they aren't some of those trigger happy yanks.

heck.... maybe we could just just drop the passengers in from flt level 30

I have no intention of becoming hostage material.
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complexintentions wrote:Should you commit we expect you to fulfill the above term.
How lucky do you feel today?

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Post by Rockie »

$20,000 for 25 days? I wouldn't do it for $20,000 PER DAY.

How much is it worth to you to get beheaded on Al Jazeera TV?
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What I don't get is that they require such high times...

I'm sure we have 200hr pilots around here that would gladly, "learn on the job"
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QUALIFICATION:
-Current B767.
-At least 1500 hrs COMMAND B767.
-Last flown within 24 Months.
-All Licenses accepted.
-Age 65 Okay.
Retirement got you down? Sick of peanuckle at the old timer's lodge? The grandkids really don't come to visit that often anyway eh... :lol:
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complexintentions wrote: -Age 65 Okay.


Sure if you make it that long!
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"valid medical" if you're insane to take the job, you'll lose it after...
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Post by TorontoGuy »

Oddly enough, this might be a relatively safe mission (relatively!) since the job is to fly muslims to Mecca for the Hajj, the annual great pilgrimmage. So it's (probably) Iraqi Airways carrying all muslims on a sacred pilgrimmage from Northern Iraq, one of the quieter parts of the country. The airline's onyl two northern cities, Arbil and Sulaymaniyah are both in the Kurdish area, which is pretty much violence-free. The plane might fall apart before getting shot down.

Still, better than doing the American Airlines Rummy Rumsfeld turkey and gravy run into Baghdad Dec. 25.
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Former Air Canada 767-200? Aren't those planes a little chapped out for continued flying nowadays?
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Post by Cat Driver »

We spent the whole time the Haj was being flown working on a Cat right beside the approach to 34C the usual active in Jeddah, we were close enough that with the proper x/wind we could hear the wing tip vortices of the heavys landing.

It was really facinating to see the junk that was carrying passengers to Mecca.

One 747 that was a regular did not need a radar return to identify it, there was so much smoke coming out of #3 engine we could identify it at fifty miles visual.

But the strange thing is it just kept flying and flying like an energiser bunny.

The risk on that job is less than some African countries.

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Here is one on the ramp in YYZ prior to delivery. They may be aging but but were very well maintained.

AC maintenance is well respected and anyone getting an airplane will be getting a good one.


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Post by Panama Jack »

Hajj contract aircraft are often the "rusty freighters" of the aviation world, and some of the characters that own and operate them are some of them are pretty shady characters. It is advisable to have your money paid in advance or check them out well before you sign on the dotted line.

A number of airlines were looking at restarting service back into Baghdad when this happened:

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These guys were very, very lucky. They lost all hydraulics (they did not even have Mechanical backup), and the only way they were able to control the aircraft was by altering engine thrust. Yet they managed to land (they landed, not crashed)!
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Panama

We studied that incident in our last recurrent. The ironic thing about that was the crew evacuated after coming to a stop, only to find themselves in a mine field!
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Post by Big Pistons Forever »

Jaques Strappe, you said

"We studied that incident in our last recurrent. The ironic thing about that was the crew evacuated after coming to a stop, only to find themselves in a mine field! "

Yikes... Even Churchill is starting to look good :wink:
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Jaques Strappe wrote:We studied that incident in our last recurrent. The ironic thing about that was the crew evacuated after coming to a stop, only to find themselves in a mine field!
Talk about a bad day!
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Jaques Strappe wrote:Here is one on the ramp in YYZ prior to delivery. They may be aging but but were very well maintained.

AC maintenance is well respected and anyone getting an airplane will be getting a good one.


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Take a look at the name of the photographer!!

Does this 767 have the new Boeing-designed AN-379 SPCD (Smell Proof Cockpit Door)? Is so, sign me up.

"For those of you in the first class cabin, our meal selection will be one large goat with infadel beans and the movie shall be the Iraqi comedy "Take my wives, PLEASE!", starring Don Knotts. For those of you in coach seating we have an assortment of finger Sadamwhiches to offer along with Dave's Memories of Mecca Spicey Texas-Style Hummus. Also, for our coach passengers, the inflight movie is "Eyes Wide Shut" with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, a movie which the Iraqi Inquisitor called "A real Jihad pleaser! - Don't walk but run to America to see this movie!".
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:smt043 :smt044 :smt003
You missed your calling, Bro.
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Good God it's called Fort McMoney people, and you dont have to get made famous on TV in an orange jumper. Just a working knowledge of Newfinesse, and you too could go from rags to riches. :wink:
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Jaques Strappe wrote:They may be aging but but were very well maintained.

AC maintenance is well respected and anyone getting an airplane will be getting a good one.
Thanks Jaques.... we do take some pride in our work. :)
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Post by golden hawk »

I think that the responses to this forum may well go down in AvCanada history as the funniest!

Keep it up, gang!

Don Knotts? lol, I was fit to be tied!
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I also like the fine print:
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(Captains with LESS than 2000hrs COMMAND B767 - rate at $750/day)
If you find a captain for this job. Why start splitting hairs?
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Good God it's called Fort McMoney people
A far more accurate play on words would be "Fort McMercenary". Mercenary being defined (from http://www.dictionary.com) thusly:

mer·ce·nar·y Pronunciation Key (mûrs-nr)
adj.

1. Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain.
2. Hired for service in a foreign country.


Both definitions fit nicely.
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Post by Panama Jack »

That is one of the three descriptions of ex-pats . . . mercenaries, missionaries and misfits.
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Post by W5 »

Yup, flying nuns and guns. 8)


Reminds me of the old Warren Zevon song:"Send lawyers, guns and money"
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