Ground school dates

[ethernet123]

Any updates on ground school dates ?

[rkaur]

I am in the same boat, waiting in the pool. Have you heard anything since? @ethernet123

[dontcallmeshirley]

I am in the same boat, waiting in the pool. Have you heard anything since? @ethernet123

There are no ground school dates. There are too many FOs and not enough captains. First officers aren't upgrading because they don't want to give up having a life to work 18 days a month and deal with the inexperienced new FOs.

There are many captains who have left recently and several more who are interviewing elsewhere.

It might be several months before Encore starts hiring first officers again.

[GetAGripen]

We got an email from the DFO the other day that FO hiring will resume in 'early fall'.

[pilot8558]

I’m in the same boat. HR said there will be GS in Fall, but I’ve heard that they are overstaffed, so not sure how things will turn out. I will wait until September. If not, I will go up north to build some hours. No other option

[dontcallmeshirley]

I’m in the same boat. HR said there will be GS in Fall, but I’ve heard that they are overstaffed, so not sure how things will turn out. I will wait until September. If not, I will go up north to build some hours. No other option

They are seriously understaffed in captains which causes a relative overstaffing in the right seat. Realistically, there is a first officer shortage at Encore as well, but the captain shortage is causing first officers not to be able to fly anywhere near their capability.

After reading this, you should be asking yourself "why is there such a captain shortage?"

[pilot8558]

Anyone got offer for the Fall GS?

[KN84]

I’m in the same boat. HR said there will be GS in Fall, but I’ve heard that they are overstaffed, so not sure how things will turn out. I will wait until September. If not, I will go up north to build some hours. No other option

They are seriously understaffed in captains which causes a relative overstaffing in the right seat. Realistically, there is a first officer shortage at Encore as well, but the captain shortage is causing first officers not to be able to fly anywhere near their capability.

After reading this, you should be asking yourself "why is there such a captain shortage?"

Hi, the 500 hours 705 ops experience requirement is likely causing the shortage.

[cdnavater]

I’m in the same boat. HR said there will be GS in Fall, but I’ve heard that they are overstaffed, so not sure how things will turn out. I will wait until September. If not, I will go up north to build some hours. No other option

They are seriously understaffed in captains which causes a relative overstaffing in the right seat. Realistically, there is a first officer shortage at Encore as well, but the captain shortage is causing first officers not to be able to fly anywhere near their capability.

After reading this, you should be asking yourself "why is there such a captain shortage?"

Hi, the 500 hours 705 ops experience requirement is likely causing the shortage.

What are you talking about?
You keep going on about this 500 hours of 705 experience, I went to the WJ group application portal, 750 TT for FO and 2000TT for DEC at Encore and 2000TT for FO at mainline, it does not mention anything about 500 hours 705.
I guarantee just about every FO hired at Encore did not have that, maybe the odd quick upgrade potential maybe but if they were already build time in an airline, I doubt they would be moving to Encore.
You are really starting to sound like, NickyNick, Happyflyer and all the rest of the aliases he/she/they has used in the past

[KN84]

They are seriously understaffed in captains which causes a relative overstaffing in the right seat. Realistically, there is a first officer shortage at Encore as well, but the captain shortage is causing first officers not to be able to fly anywhere near their capability.

After reading this, you should be asking yourself "why is there such a captain shortage?"

Hi, the 500 hours 705 ops experience requirement is likely causing the shortage.

What are you talking about?
You keep going on about this 500 hours of 705 experience, I went to the WJ group application portal, 750 TT for FO and 2000TT for DEC at Encore and 2000TT for FO at mainline, it does not mention anything about 500 hours 705.
I guarantee just about every FO hired at Encore did not have that, maybe the odd quick upgrade potential maybe but if they were already build time in an airline, I doubt they would be moving to Encore.
You are really starting to sound like, NickyNick, Happyflyer and all the rest of the aliases he/she/they has used in the past

Hi, my colleague said the 500 hours 705 experience requirement was reason their application was rejected immediately. The job postings 4th requirement listed says 500 hours under CARS 705 or equivalent.

[cdnavater]

Hi, the 500 hours 705 ops experience requirement is likely causing the shortage.

What are you talking about?
You keep going on about this 500 hours of 705 experience, I went to the WJ group application portal, 750 TT for FO and 2000TT for DEC at Encore and 2000TT for FO at mainline, it does not mention anything about 500 hours 705.
I guarantee just about every FO hired at Encore did not have that, maybe the odd quick upgrade potential maybe but if they were already build time in an airline, I doubt they would be moving to Encore.
You are really starting to sound like, NickyNick, Happyflyer and all the rest of the aliases he/she/they has used in the past

Hi, my colleague said the 500 hours 705 experience requirement was reason their application was rejected immediately. The job postings 4th requirement listed says 500 hours under CARS 705 or equivalent.

I literally just looked, I don’t see that and if they were rejected for that, I assume it was DEC they were applying for?
There is a long time training Captain on. King Air 200 who has been flagged at every airline in Canada, same person?
Edit;
I see that requirement of kitjob(whatever the @#$! that is), as far as I know the WJ jobs are through the WJ website to one of their links, tell you “colleague” to apply through WJ and see if they are rejected!

[KN84]

What are you talking about?
You keep going on about this 500 hours of 705 experience, I went to the WJ group application portal, 750 TT for FO and 2000TT for DEC at Encore and 2000TT for FO at mainline, it does not mention anything about 500 hours 705.
I guarantee just about every FO hired at Encore did not have that, maybe the odd quick upgrade potential maybe but if they were already build time in an airline, I doubt they would be moving to Encore.
You are really starting to sound like, NickyNick, Happyflyer and all the rest of the aliases he/she/they has used in the past

Hi, my colleague said the 500 hours 705 experience requirement was reason their application was rejected immediately. The job postings 4th requirement listed says 500 hours under CARS 705 or equivalent.

I literally just looked, I don’t see that and if they were rejected for that, I assume it was DEC they were applying for?
There is a long time training Captain on. King Air 200 who has been flagged at every airline in Canada, same person?
Edit;
I see that requirement of kitjob(whatever the @#$! that is), as far as I know the WJ jobs are through the WJ website to one of their links, tell you “colleague” to apply through WJ and see if they are rejected!

Hi, they applied for the captain position. I have no knowledge about them being flagged by every airline. Knowing them personally that seems very unlikely.

[cdnavater]

Hi, my colleague said the 500 hours 705 experience requirement was reason their application was rejected immediately. The job postings 4th requirement listed says 500 hours under CARS 705 or equivalent.

I literally just looked, I don’t see that and if they were rejected for that, I assume it was DEC they were applying for?
There is a long time training Captain on. King Air 200 who has been flagged at every airline in Canada, same person?
Edit;
I see that requirement of kitjob(whatever the @#$! that is), as far as I know the WJ jobs are through the WJ website to one of their links, tell you “colleague” to apply through WJ and see if they are rejected!

Hi, they applied for the captain position. I have no knowledge about them being flagged by every airline. Knowing them personally that seems very unlikely.

Tell them to apply through the actual WJ website, they only list 2000 hours for the DEC position, I can speak to applying through the wrong portal. I applied incorrectly for Jazz years ago, found out after two year, Jazz didn’t even know I existed, when I applied through the correct site, I was interviewed 3 days after application and in ground school 5 weeks after interviewing.

[KN84]

I literally just looked, I don’t see that and if they were rejected for that, I assume it was DEC they were applying for?
There is a long time training Captain on. King Air 200 who has been flagged at every airline in Canada, same person?
Edit;
I see that requirement of kitjob(whatever the @#$! that is), as far as I know the WJ jobs are through the WJ website to one of their links, tell you “colleague” to apply through WJ and see if they are rejected!

Hi, they applied for the captain position. I have no knowledge about them being flagged by every airline. Knowing them personally that seems very unlikely.

Tell them to apply through the actual WJ website, they only list 2000 hours for the DEC position, I can speak to applying through the wrong portal. I applied incorrectly for Jazz years ago, found out after two year, Jazz didn’t even know I existed, when I applied through the correct site, I was interviewed 3 days after application and in ground school 5 weeks after interviewing.

The westjet careers posting for captain dash 8 says 500 hours 705 experience. It’s the 4th item listed in the requirements.

Also says same in the listing on pilot career center.
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore

[cdnavater]

Hi, they applied for the captain position. I have no knowledge about them being flagged by every airline. Knowing them personally that seems very unlikely.

Tell them to apply through the actual WJ website, they only list 2000 hours for the DEC position, I can speak to applying through the wrong portal. I applied incorrectly for Jazz years ago, found out after two year, Jazz didn’t even know I existed, when I applied through the correct site, I was interviewed 3 days after application and in ground school 5 weeks after interviewing.

The westjet careers posting for captain dash 8 says 500 hours 705 experience. It’s the 4th item listed in the requirements.

Also says same in the listing on pilot career center.
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore

Ok, I’ll take your word for it, I am assuming you have to log I. Under an account to see that because the WJ website only says 2000, I could post a screenshot if I truly cared but I don’t.
Do you think any amount of King Air PIC entitles you or your colleague to a direct entry capatain spot at Encore, those requirements are based on past experience.
I can tell you at Jazz, I have not seen any successful DEC with only king air(703), they even struggle when they come back 6 months after they join as FO because they don’t get any real amount of experience 6 months in the right seat, some only have 100 hours on type after 6 months and attempt the left seat, no easy task.
Your colleague, rightfully should be excluded from a DEC position on a Q400, join as an FO and upgrade after 500 hours, otherwise Encore will continue to reject your colleague until they meet their requirements

[KN84]

Tell them to apply through the actual WJ website, they only list 2000 hours for the DEC position, I can speak to applying through the wrong portal. I applied incorrectly for Jazz years ago, found out after two year, Jazz didn’t even know I existed, when I applied through the correct site, I was interviewed 3 days after application and in ground school 5 weeks after interviewing.

The westjet careers posting for captain dash 8 says 500 hours 705 experience. It’s the 4th item listed in the requirements.

Also says same in the listing on pilot career center.
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore

Ok, I’ll take your word for it, I am assuming you have to log I. Under an account to see that because the WJ website only says 2000, I could post a screenshot if I truly cared but I don’t.
Do you think any amount of King Air PIC entitles you or your colleague to a direct entry capatain spot at Encore, those requirements are based on past experience.
I can tell you at Jazz, I have not seen any successful DEC with only king air(703), they even struggle when they come back 6 months after they join as FO because they don’t get any real amount of experience 6 months in the right seat, some only have 100 hours on type after 6 months and attempt the left seat, no easy task.
Your colleague, rightfully should be excluded from a DEC position on a Q400, join as an FO and upgrade after 500 hours, otherwise Encore will continue to reject your colleague until they meet their requirements

The standards aren’t the same for captain and FO? That’s kind of scary for the flying public, if the captain becomes unable to do their duties the FO should be able to safely complete an emergency landing.

[cdnavater]

The westjet careers posting for captain dash 8 says 500 hours 705 experience. It’s the 4th item listed in the requirements.

Also says same in the listing on pilot career center.
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore

Ok, I’ll take your word for it, I am assuming you have to log I. Under an account to see that because the WJ website only says 2000, I could post a screenshot if I truly cared but I don’t.
Do you think any amount of King Air PIC entitles you or your colleague to a direct entry capatain spot at Encore, those requirements are based on past experience.
I can tell you at Jazz, I have not seen any successful DEC with only king air(703), they even struggle when they come back 6 months after they join as FO because they don’t get any real amount of experience 6 months in the right seat, some only have 100 hours on type after 6 months and attempt the left seat, no easy task.
Your colleague, rightfully should be excluded from a DEC position on a Q400, join as an FO and upgrade after 500 hours, otherwise Encore will continue to reject your colleague until they meet their requirements

The standards aren’t the same for captain and FO? That’s kind of scary for the flying public, if the captain becomes unable to do their duties the FO should be able to safely complete an emergency landing.

Are you friggin kidding, there is no way you’re not a troll, of course the FO can take over and land, that’s the whole point but they are not regularly making command decisions, that’s where the experience “requirements” differ.
If you and your “colleague” don’t understand the difference between Captain requirements and FO requirements, I have news for you both, you’ll be flying 703 for a long time.

[BTD]

Ok, I’ll take your word for it, I am assuming you have to log I. Under an account to see that because the WJ website only says 2000, I could post a screenshot if I truly cared but I don’t.
Do you think any amount of King Air PIC entitles you or your colleague to a direct entry capatain spot at Encore, those requirements are based on past experience.
I can tell you at Jazz, I have not seen any successful DEC with only king air(703), they even struggle when they come back 6 months after they join as FO because they don’t get any real amount of experience 6 months in the right seat, some only have 100 hours on type after 6 months and attempt the left seat, no easy task.
Your colleague, rightfully should be excluded from a DEC position on a Q400, join as an FO and upgrade after 500 hours, otherwise Encore will continue to reject your colleague until they meet their requirements

The standards aren’t the same for captain and FO? That’s kind of scary for the flying public, if the captain becomes unable to do their duties the FO should be able to safely complete an emergency landing.

Are you friggin kidding, there is no way you’re not a troll, of course the FO can take over and land, that’s the whole point but they are not regularly making command decisions, that’s where the experience “requirements” differ.
If you and your “colleague” don’t understand the difference between Captain requirements and FO requirements, I have news for you both, you’ll be flying 703 for a long time.

It ain’t rocket surgery, but seeing all 4 seasons from the right seat is just a good idea.

[CaptDukeNukem]

I once clicked no by mistake on the “are you eligible to work in canada” line. Got auto PFO.

Technology. Old people. History.

[Cheeseburger]

I heard a rumour of a February FO ground school. Can anyone confirm or deny?

[GetAGripen]

I heard a rumour of a February FO ground school. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Should be? The classrooms are booked, anyway.

[ethernet123]

I heard a rumour of a February FO ground school. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Should be? The classrooms are booked, anyway.

that's great news, thank you for your input! any more info on the hiring like the experience level they are looking for and the number of FOs they are looking to hire?

[GetAGripen]

I heard a rumour of a February FO ground school. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Should be? The classrooms are booked, anyway.

that's great news, thank you for your input! any more info on the hiring like the experience level they are looking for and the number of FOs they are looking to hire?

That I don't know, sorry. ATPL is definitely preferred. Also multi-engine, multi-crew turbine PIC at or above 12,500lbs is now eligible for the minimum 500 hours 705 equivalency required for upgrading. They will prioritize folks who can upgrade quickly since we're still short Captains.

[Me262]

Should be? The classrooms are booked, anyway.

that's great news, thank you for your input! any more info on the hiring like the experience level they are looking for and the number of FOs they are looking to hire?

since we're still short Captains.

Encore will ALWAYS be short Captains just like Jazz will. The compensation is miles away for any Capt to stay

[GetAGripen]

that's great news, thank you for your input! any more info on the hiring like the experience level they are looking for and the number of FOs they are looking to hire?

since we're still short Captains.

Encore will ALWAYS be short Captains just like Jazz will. The compensation is miles away for any Capt to stay

Water is wet, sky is blue, etc.