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Diamond Crash

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From Tsb.....

C-FRZG, a Cooking Lake Aviation Academy Diamond DA20-C1, was operating on a training flight
from the Cooking Lake Airport (CEZ3), AB for the private pilot license with a flight instructor and
student on board. While in the local training in the vicinity of Bearverhill Lake (20 NM east of
CEZ3), the aircraft collided with the lake. The aircraft came to rest in shallow water; the 406 MHz
ELT did not activate. The aircraft was declared missing at 2100 MDT and JRCC Trenton
commenced search activities. The aircraft was found shortly after midnight. One occupant was
deceased and the other was seriously injured and was transported to an Edmonton hospital. The
survivor subsequently died 2 days later from their injuries.
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Statement from Cooking Lake Aviation posted on their website:

ON FRIDAY AUGUST 11TH, ONE OF OUR AIRCRAFT WAS OUT ON A LOCAL TRAINING FLIGHT WITH A STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR ONBOARD. THE AIRCRAFT DID NOT RETURN AT IT’S EXPECTED TIME AND WAS REPORTED OVERDUE AT 8:30PM. SEARCH & RESCUE (SAR) WAS IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED AND CANADA’S JOINT RESCUE COORDINATION CENTRE (JRCC) DISPATCHED AIRCRAFT FROM BOTH CANADIAN FORCES BASE (CFB) COLD LAKE & CFB WINNIPEG TO INITIATE A SEARCH. THE AIRCRAFT WAS LOCATED AROUND 0130 AM ON THE MORNING OF AUGUST 12TH NEAR BEAVERHILL LAKE, NORTH OF TOFIELD. ONE OF THE OCCUPANTS OF THE AIRCRAFT WAS TRANSPORTED BY STARS AIR AMBULANCE TO HOSPITAL IN EDMONTON. WE WERE PROFOUNDLY SADDENED TO LEARN THAT OUR DEAR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, ALEX LANOVAZ, WHO WAS THE INSTRUCTOR ONBOARD, WAS PRONOUNCED DECEASED AT THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT. THE AIRCRAFT WAS A 2023 DIAMOND DA20. IT IS A VERY POPULAR, STATE OF THE ART, 2 SEAT TRAINING AIRCRAFT IN USE BY FLIGHT SCHOOLS AROUND THE WORLD. AUTHORITIES INCLUDING TRANSPORT CANADA AND THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD HAVE BEGUN THEIR INVESTIGATION AND WE ARE PROVIDING OUR FULLEST SUPPORT AND COOPERATION TO THEM. AT THIS TIME, THERE IS NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THE CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT. IT IS A VERY SAD TIME FOR THE STUDENTS AND STAFF OF COOKING LAKE AVIATION, WE ARE ALL HEARTBROKEN. WE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OF THOSE AFFECTED BY THIS TRAGEDY. OUT OF RESPECT TO THOSE INVOLVED, AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE INVESTIGATION, WE WILL NOT SPECULATE ON THE CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS INCLUDING THE CANADIAN FORCES AND STARS AIR AMBULANCE FOR THEIR QUICK RESPONSE AND EXEMPLARY SUPPORT THROUGHOUT. COOKING LAKE AVIATION HAS SUSPENDED ALL OPERATIONS UNTIL AUGUST 21ST, 2023 AS WE RECOVER FROM THE SHOCK AND SADNESS OF THIS TRAGEDY, AND TO GRIEVE THE LOSS OF OUR BELOVED FRIEND & FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR. – CLA MANAGEMENT
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I'll never tire of saying it, no excuse for all aircraft not to be satellite tracked. You can buy a $50 Spot, and for a couple hundred bucks a year have unlimited 2-minute tracking.

Unconscionable to operate without it, and a fraction of the price of all the other gewgaws that we burden our aircraft with.
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Very sad and quite shocking. The DA20 is a really forgiving and unbelievably sturdy aircraft. When I used to instruct on them, I did quite a bit of research on their accident/fatality record and was very impressed with how they held up in accidents. I'll be following the investigation from this closely. Considering how experienced the instructor was in this accident, it's very surprising.
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JL wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:31 pm TSB final report:

https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repo ... w0096.html
So the factory didn’t install the G-Loop correctly and this may have caused a delay in rescue…

If any of either families are reading this. It’s time to lawyer up if you haven’t already.

This TSB report blows my mind.
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TPC why would they sue? In my opinion the spin which wasn’t even necessary to attain a PPL license was initiated from too low of an altitude. I also think the student pilot was also very low in experience to be practicing spins. Perhaps the spin should have only been demonstrated once the student was nearing the end of their PPL training.
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piperdriver wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:30 am TPC why would they sue? In my opinion the spin which wasn’t even necessary to attain a PPL license was initiated from too low of an altitude. I also think the student pilot was also very low in experience to be practicing spins. Perhaps the spin should have only been demonstrated once the student was nearing the end of their PPL training.
The spin is necessary to attain a PPL license. It's not a flight test exercise but it is a training exercise.

There's nothing weird about exposing a 10 hour student to a spin. It's a common practice to expose students to as many exercises as possible before sending them solo.
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piperdriver wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:30 am TPC why would they sue? In my opinion the spin which wasn’t even necessary to attain a PPL license was initiated from too low of an altitude. I also think the student pilot was also very low in experience to be practicing spins. Perhaps the spin should have only been demonstrated once the student was nearing the end of their PPL training.
Because had the ELT activated, and rescue was made earlier, that student may still be alive today.
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PostmasterGeneral wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:24 am
piperdriver wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:30 am TPC why would they sue? In my opinion the spin which wasn’t even necessary to attain a PPL license was initiated from too low of an altitude. I also think the student pilot was also very low in experience to be practicing spins. Perhaps the spin should have only been demonstrated once the student was nearing the end of their PPL training.
Because had the ELT activated, and rescue was made earlier, that student may still be alive today.
Winner winner chicken dinner.

How anyone after reading this report can’t understand what I meant is beyond me.

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I wonder how many other airplanes were not wired correctly from the factory.

On 24 November 2023, Diamond Aircraft Industries Inc. issued a mandatory service bulletin (MSB), DAC1-25-05, to highlight safety issues with the DA20-C1 series aircraft and, specifically, the installation of the ARTEX ELT 1000 emergency locator transmitter (ELT) system in its aircraft.
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digits_ wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:22 am
piperdriver wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:30 am TPC why would they sue? In my opinion the spin which wasn’t even necessary to attain a PPL license was initiated from too low of an altitude. I also think the student pilot was also very low in experience to be practicing spins. Perhaps the spin should have only been demonstrated once the student was nearing the end of their PPL training.
The spin is necessary to attain a PPL license. It's not a flight test exercise but it is a training exercise.

There's nothing weird about exposing a 10 hour student to a spin. It's a common practice to expose students to as many exercises as possible before sending them solo.
I would suggest a higher entry altitude for such a student. Barely any experience and who knows how he will react. Sometimes they freeze on the controls.
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Sad and chilling, having done my PPL in a similar type.
when the aircraft was at 5725 feet ASL, it entered the 1st of 2 spin manoeuvres. The aircraft recovered from the 1st spin at 1805:37, at an altitude of 4150 feet ASL and with a loss of 1575 feet.
the aircraft entered the 2nd spin at 4725 feet ASL, which was 2531 feet above ground level (AGL) (Figure 2). The aircraft remained in the spin until it collided with the surface of Beaverhill Lake at 1806:43. There was no post-impact fire.
I can't imagine the instructor or student intended to enter the second spin at 4725 ft. Assuming the same altitude loss that would have left like 620 feet AGL after the recovery.
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