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Hi all,

I got an email from HR said that I entered the successful candidate pool but yet have a ground school date.
1. Any idea how long I would probably need to wait for the ground school? How long will it last?
2. I heard they now have a Dash base in YOW. Would it be better than YTZ considering the rent in Toronto etc?

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Slower schedule a bit, but less movement in your seniority probably. Not a bad choice. Also means you’d get accommodation and travel to toronto for GS and sim unlike if you are ytz based
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There have been people in the pool at least as far back as November that haven't gotten a class date yet, while lots of rumors of people that did their sim eval this month getting March.
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Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:11 am There have been people in the pool at least as far back as November that haven't gotten a class date yet, while lots of rumors of people that did their sim eval this month getting March.
Well I hope that the rumor is true I do want to start the ground school asap lol
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Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
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mc97 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:16 pm Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
I would be confident in guessing that they pull out the candidates that are most qualified against their internal requirements.
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mc97 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:16 pm Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
Supposedly a combination of pool seniority and experience, but the rumours I've heard of people getting March have been pilots with a bit less experience than myself and a few others that have been waiting since 2024.

I believe multi pic is weighed heavily similar to Jazz's pool but could be wrong on that.
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Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:06 pm
mc97 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:16 pm Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
Supposedly a combination of pool seniority and experience, but the rumours I've heard of people getting March have been pilots with a bit less experience than myself and a few others that have been waiting since 2024.

I believe multi pic is weighed heavily similar to Jazz's pool but could be wrong on that.
Hmm interesting I thought since we are all in the pool that means we are all qualified and seniority will be the only factor.
Anyway if there's actually GS in March then probably we will hear from HR soon.
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Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:06 pm
mc97 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:16 pm Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
Supposedly a combination of pool seniority and experience, but the rumours I've heard of people getting March have been pilots with a bit less experience than myself and a few others that have been waiting since 2024.

I believe multi pic is weighed heavily similar to Jazz's pool but could be wrong on that.
By the way are you waiting for the ground school as well? And you mentioned "Pilots with a bit less experience than myself" so do you have multi pic or so?
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pc12fo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:53 pm
Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:06 pm
mc97 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:16 pm Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
Supposedly a combination of pool seniority and experience, but the rumours I've heard of people getting March have been pilots with a bit less experience than myself and a few others that have been waiting since 2024.

I believe multi pic is weighed heavily similar to Jazz's pool but could be wrong on that.
By the way are you waiting for the ground school as well? And you mentioned "Pilots with a bit less experience than myself" so do you have multi pic or so?
Yeah I have been and no I don't have multi pic :/
I've heard of about five different people getting the march class through a couple different friends, only one of which had significant mpic time, and I believe that guy ended up getting called last minute for a spot on the Feb class. It's been a bit confusing, and I've heard there's people senior to me in the pool with more TT (and some mpic or turbine sic) that are waiting too so fingers crossed.

I got a couple theories on some other criterias they might not be mentioning, but base selection could be part of it.
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Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:26 pm
pc12fo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:53 pm
Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:06 pm

Supposedly a combination of pool seniority and experience, but the rumours I've heard of people getting March have been pilots with a bit less experience than myself and a few others that have been waiting since 2024.

I believe multi pic is weighed heavily similar to Jazz's pool but could be wrong on that.
By the way are you waiting for the ground school as well? And you mentioned "Pilots with a bit less experience than myself" so do you have multi pic or so?
Yeah I have been and no I don't have multi pic :/
I've heard of about five different people getting the march class through a couple different friends, only one of which had significant mpic time, and I believe that guy ended up getting called last minute for a spot on the Feb class. It's been a bit confusing, and I've heard there's people senior to me in the pool with more TT (and some mpic or turbine sic) that are waiting too so fingers crossed.

I got a couple theories on some other criterias they might not be mentioning, but base selection could be part of it.
I sent an email to the HR and asked about an estimated date for the GS so we'll see but yeah I think maybe the base is probably one of the criteria as well. Hopefully we will both get a date soon!
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pc12fo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:52 pm
Sotureg wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:06 pm
mc97 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:16 pm Does anyone know how they select from the pool once you’re in it?
Supposedly a combination of pool seniority and experience, but the rumours I've heard of people getting March have been pilots with a bit less experience than myself and a few others that have been waiting since 2024.

I believe multi pic is weighed heavily similar to Jazz's pool but could be wrong on that.
Hmm interesting I thought since we are all in the pool that means we are all qualified and seniority will be the only factor.
Anyway if there's actually GS in March then probably we will hear from HR soon.
Think about it this way. The pool will be filled with FO qualified candidates. However the industry is short regional captains. If a DEC qualified captain, or a likely quick upgrade FO candidate applies, who do you think they would want to hire first? Which candidate is going to solve their captain shortage problem quicker?
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I heard there is a GS coming in Apr/May. Anyone got into that?
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pc12fo wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:29 pm I heard there is a GS coming in Apr/May. Anyone got into that?
Dash classes running till May for sure. Probably one class a month. Summer classes depends on staffing. If paused for summer, will resume in fall.

E2 classes will probably run one a month.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:15 pm
pc12fo wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:29 pm I heard there is a GS coming in Apr/May. Anyone got into that?
Dash classes running till May for sure. Probably one class a month. Summer classes depends on staffing. If paused for summer, will resume in fall.

E2 classes will probably run one a month.
That's great news! Hopefully I will get a GS confirmation from HR soon.
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Have been in the pool since September, and aside from the email for the lucky guy who got the February ground school and the email a couple of weeks ago asking for base preference between Toronto, Ottawa, and Thunder Bay, I have heard nothing. Evidently there are candidates in the pool with more experience that they want who they are giving preference to (most of my time is on piston singles). The last I heard from my recruiter was a possible April or May ground school date, but have not heard anything about that yet. Just have to sit and wait for now, and see what happens.
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CRJ_Dragon wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:57 am Have been in the pool since September, and aside from the email for the lucky guy who got the February ground school and the email a couple of weeks ago asking for base preference between Toronto, Ottawa, and Thunder Bay, I have heard nothing. Evidently there are candidates in the pool with more experience that they want who they are giving preference to (most of my time is on piston singles). The last I heard from my recruiter was a possible April or May ground school date, but have not heard anything about that yet. Just have to sit and wait for now, and see what happens.
Yeah same for me I asked HR and they said upcoming GS will be April, May and August but still yet to give me an official offer.
And they told me GS for April and May will be YTZ base as the YOW has no spot anymore.
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pc12fo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:52 pm Interesting I thought since we are all in the pool that means we are all qualified and seniority will be the only factor.
Anyway if there's actually GS in March then probably we will hear from HR soon.
If your in the pool, you don't have ANY seniority. You're simply a pilot in a pool who has gone through the process for hiring. Just want to clarify that as I don't want folks to think your getting a Seniority number upon placement into the pool.

As for when/who will be called. Yes they will call folks with experience first as they (like any company) want folks who can upgrade fairly fast. If your and Instructor of a 172 with 1500 hours, your upgrade will be quite some time. If you have lots of mutli-pic and 2700 hours, well your upgrade is about 1.5 years sooner.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:15 pm
pc12fo wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:29 pm I heard there is a GS coming in Apr/May. Anyone got into that?
Dash classes running till May for sure. Probably one class a month. Summer classes depends on staffing. If paused for summer, will resume in fall.

E2 classes will probably run one a month.
Is it at all likely that E2 classes will be running all of 2026 or unlikely? Seems like one can build seniority sort of quickly on the E2 but not sure
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CRJ_Dragon wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:57 am Have been in the pool since September, and aside from the email for the lucky guy who got the February ground school and the email a couple of weeks ago asking for base preference between Toronto, Ottawa, and Thunder Bay, I have heard nothing. Evidently there are candidates in the pool with more experience that they want who they are giving preference to (most of my time is on piston singles). The last I heard from my recruiter was a possible April or May ground school date, but have not heard anything about that yet. Just have to sit and wait for now, and see what happens.
What's your TT? I'm in a similar boat. Yeah that February email was an "interesting" way of filling that spot to say the least.
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Hysteria wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:27 am Is it at all likely that E2 classes will be running all of 2026 or unlikely? Seems like one can build seniority sort of quickly on the E2 but not sure
It's quite likely. Deliveries are slowing a bit for 2025 and into 2026 but then I believe they ramp up again. There may be one or two months this year where we don't have a ground school but I would imagine we will be hiring on the E2 for the majority of the year.

If you have the qualifications for the E2 I would go for that.
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Just got the GS date for April!

1. How long does the ground school last usually?
2. Is it still the ground in YTZ and sim in FlightSafety? Any recommendation what area to live in?

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Sotureg wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:46 am
CRJ_Dragon wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:57 am Have been in the pool since September, and aside from the email for the lucky guy who got the February ground school and the email a couple of weeks ago asking for base preference between Toronto, Ottawa, and Thunder Bay, I have heard nothing. Evidently there are candidates in the pool with more experience that they want who they are giving preference to (most of my time is on piston singles). The last I heard from my recruiter was a possible April or May ground school date, but have not heard anything about that yet. Just have to sit and wait for now, and see what happens.
What's your TT? I'm in a similar boat. Yeah that February email was an "interesting" way of filling that spot to say the least.
About 1000 hours, but none of it instructing. Pretty much all part 702 experience on light singles when I applied, but I also have some time on a 704 machine now. Which, obviously, not the ideal candidate in their eyes for a quick upgrade, but it would be nice to get more information. I honestly expected to hear something sooner, but we'll have to be patient and see what happens.
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pc12fo wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:27 am Just got the GS date for April!

1. How long does the ground school last usually?
2. Is it still the ground in YTZ and sim in FlightSafety? Any recommendation what area to live in?

Thanks!
I heard that it is 3 weeks GS and 3 weeks sim.
What is your experience level and TT? Do you have MPIC hours?
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Aviator716 wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:41 pm
pc12fo wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:27 am Just got the GS date for April!

1. How long does the ground school last usually?
2. Is it still the ground in YTZ and sim in FlightSafety? Any recommendation what area to live in?

Thanks!
I heard that it is 3 weeks GS and 3 weeks sim.
What is your experience level and TT? Do you have MPIC hours?
All single engine ~1800TT with no MPIC
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