Pilot Hiring 2025

[kiaszceski]

We've hired many pilots without 705 experience, in some cases without multi-engine experience or high-performance aircraft experience. After many years of hiring analysis, our most successful candidates are those who come from a 705 background on a Q400, CRJ, EMB or similar. They are familiar with airline operations, scheduling, and operating into the same type of airports Flair does. They have also typically worked a 703/704 job before their employment at a 705 carrier.

That isn't to say we don't hire pilots who have never flown in a 705 operation, we do often. But if we have a choice between candidates for a given position and both scored equally well on the interview process, we'll often prioritize the Q400/EMB/CRJ candidate from Jazz, Encore, PASCO, Porter etc. I don't think we're alone in that preference.

Previous experience is only one piece of the hiring puzzle. We put more emphasis on interview and COMPASS testing scores than if you've worked at a 705 or not.

Does that mean you won’t be taking any 250 hour iATPL students?

No, we're really looking forward to welcoming our first cadet graduates in June of this year.

COMPASS test doesn't fit with Canadian skilled pilots, it does not make any sense to ask for a test from a 705 Senior FO or Captain applying to Flair.
That's bullshit.
One should use the test for inexperienced pilots coming from 703 or very low time in a 705.
You're not BA,LH,AF,Emirates or Etihad, get over it.
The guy that put it in place couldn't pass it, what a shame.

[canadianfly]

Agree, it's just a bad copy paste from emirates.
I truly hope for the Canadian aviation sake that Flair will be the dead end of this retro mentality.

[tbaylx]

Does that mean you won’t be taking any 250 hour iATPL students?

No, we're really looking forward to welcoming our first cadet graduates in June of this year.

COMPASS test doesn't fit with Canadian skilled pilots, it does not make any sense to ask for a test from a 705 Senior FO or Captain applying to Flair.
That's bullshit.
One should use the test for inexperienced pilots coming from 703 or very low time in a 705.
You're not BA,LH,AF,Emirates or Etihad, get over it.
The guy that put it in place couldn't pass it, what a shame.

Actually, we've got a good amount of data now that supports and validates the compass testing. There are a few exceptions where older pilots with significant experience tend to do a bit worse and we take that into account.

Otherwise, pilots who score low on key aspects of the Compass testing almost always struggle in training.

[Me262]

No, we're really looking forward to welcoming our first cadet graduates in June of this year.

COMPASS test doesn't fit with Canadian skilled pilots, it does not make any sense to ask for a test from a 705 Senior FO or Captain applying to Flair.
That's bullshit.
One should use the test for inexperienced pilots coming from 703 or very low time in a 705.
You're not BA,LH,AF,Emirates or Etihad, get over it.
The guy that put it in place couldn't pass it, what a shame.

Actually, we've got a good amount of data now that supports and validates the compass testing. There are a few exceptions where older pilots with significant experience tend to do a bit worse and we take that into account.

Otherwise, pilots who score low on key aspects of the Compass testing almost always struggle in training.

No it doesn't.

[kiaszceski]

COMPASS test doesn't fit with Canadian skilled pilots, it does not make any sense to ask for a test from a 705 Senior FO or Captain applying to Flair.
That's bullshit.
One should use the test for inexperienced pilots coming from 703 or very low time in a 705.
You're not BA,LH,AF,Emirates or Etihad, get over it.
The guy that put it in place couldn't pass it, what a shame.

Actually, we've got a good amount of data now that supports and validates the compass testing. There are a few exceptions where older pilots with significant experience tend to do a bit worse and we take that into account.

Otherwise, pilots who score low on key aspects of the Compass testing almost always struggle in training.

No it doesn't.

Then why Westjet, Encore, Porter, Jazz or AC don't use them?
Do you lack competent recruiters and you rely on a test that doesn't fit to our industry?

[Max Rex]

I passed the interview in May and have been in the pool. I haven't received the offer for January. When will the offer for February be issued? Is it just a phone call notification or an email?

[Slingshot97]

Has anyone heard anything back from Flair regarding the Feb ground school?

[windshields]

Has anyone heard anything back from Flair regarding the Feb ground school?

yes

[Slingshot97]

Was it recently that you heard from them?

[Slingshot97]

Has anyone heard anything back from Flair regarding the Feb ground school?

yes

Was it recently that you heard from them?

[Stable_Approach]

I believe everyone for Feb ground school has now been notified.

[co-joe]

Then why Westjet, Encore, Porter, Jazz or AC don't use them?
Do you lack competent recruiters and you rely on a test that doesn't fit to our industry?

Each have their own standardized testing. AC and Jazz use the MMPI test. Have you ever wanted to be a florist, and do you hear voices? And you think compass test which is a skills based test is weird?

[windshields]

I agree I don't understand the hate

[aceemployment]

We are looking for qualified pilots for an assignment overseas. It is for a commuting position as a First Officer with Nippon Cargo Airlines (Japan). The commuting airports are LAX & ORD. The remuneration package is in USD which for the Canadian Dollar, has been big plus.

Details are posted here:

https://acempl.com/job-opportunities.php

I took a LOA many years ago during the Canadian / Air Canada merger and it was probably the best career choice I made. Like every ariline, there are the good and the bad points, but for the most part, it has been a positive experience.

There is an ex-Flair captain that just completed his training and is on line. We encourage all qualified pilots to apply.

ACE employment.

There is also a post available in the Aviation Job ads (free) section of the main forum index:

viewforum.php?f=7

[AirAspirations]

We've hired many pilots without 705 experience, in some cases without multi-engine experience or high-performance aircraft experience. After many years of hiring analysis, our most successful candidates are those who come from a 705 background on a Q400, CRJ, EMB or similar. They are familiar with airline operations, scheduling, and operating into the same type of airports Flair does. They have also typically worked a 703/704 job before their employment at a 705 carrier.

That isn't to say we don't hire pilots who have never flown in a 705 operation, we do often. But if we have a choice between candidates for a given position and both scored equally well on the interview process, we'll often prioritize the Q400/EMB/CRJ candidate from Jazz, Encore, PASCO, Porter etc. I don't think we're alone in that preference.

Previous experience is only one piece of the hiring puzzle. We put more emphasis on interview and COMPASS testing scores than if you've worked at a 705 or not.

Does that mean you won’t be taking any 250 hour iATPL students?

No, we're really looking forward to welcoming our first cadet graduates in June of this year.

Hi TbayLX

I am in the flair iAPTL cadet program and for sometime everyone’s been telling me Flair is going under. I keep believing they are wrong and hope they are! I was wondering if you could shed some light on how many of us going through the program (to successful completion) will have jobs as FO’s when we are done if Flair is also hiring from outside the program. Also wondering if YYZ is the only base a job option will be available and if living out West and commuting is an option.

[tbaylx]

Does that mean you won’t be taking any 250 hour iATPL students?

No, we're really looking forward to welcoming our first cadet graduates in June of this year.

Hi TbayLX

I am in the flair iAPTL cadet program and for sometime everyone’s been telling me Flair is going under. I keep believing they are wrong and hope they are! I was wondering if you could shed some light on how many of us going through the program (to successful completion) will have jobs as FO’s when we are done if Flair is also hiring from outside the program. Also wondering if YYZ is the only base a job option will be available and if living out West and commuting is an option.

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that Flair is imminently going out of business I'd be retired. If you're going to work here you'll need to learn to ignore that.

We are currently hiring First Officers for YVR and YYZ bases and anticipate openings available in both of those bases through 2025.

Cadets who successfully graduate from the iATPL program in 2025 and pass the interview will be offered employment as First Officers and may bid for any available base in order of seniority the same as any other new hire.

[cdnavater]

No, we're really looking forward to welcoming our first cadet graduates in June of this year.

Hi TbayLX

I am in the flair iAPTL cadet program and for sometime everyone’s been telling me Flair is going under. I keep believing they are wrong and hope they are! I was wondering if you could shed some light on how many of us going through the program (to successful completion) will have jobs as FO’s when we are done if Flair is also hiring from outside the program. Also wondering if YYZ is the only base a job option will be available and if living out West and commuting is an option.

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that Flair is imminently going out of business I'd be retired. If you're going to work here you'll need to learn to ignore that.

We are currently hiring First Officers for YVR and YYZ bases and anticipate openings available in both of those bases through 2025.

Cadets who successfully graduate from the iATPL program in 2025 and pass the interview will be offered employment as First Officers and may bid for any available base in order of seniority the same as any other new hire.

Before I criticize the bold part, is the interview for the job before or after they invest 150ishK?

Edit; So, reading the program description, it indicates the interview is before however there is a ton of caveats but they don’t specify exactly.

“Before being accepted into the program, the candidate must complete extensive testing and a job interview directly with the airline. If successful, the candidate will receive a conditional offer of employment from the airline to be hired as a first officer upon graduation”


“Employment Details
To be hired by Flair, you will be required to successfully complete the iATPL Course and the associated licensing qualification requirements set out by Transport Canada, complete a Pilot Proficiency Check on Flair’s aircraft, and have 250 hours of total flight time. The final review will include interview results, a simulator assessment, a successful criminal background check, a medical assessment, Transport Canada exam results, flight test results, and an overall assessment consistent with Flair’s hiring standards”

Seems like the final job offer is based on vague criteria, what is the weight of the test results?

[Tbayer2021]

Hi TbayLX

I am in the flair iAPTL cadet program and for sometime everyone’s been telling me Flair is going under. I keep believing they are wrong and hope they are! I was wondering if you could shed some light on how many of us going through the program (to successful completion) will have jobs as FO’s when we are done if Flair is also hiring from outside the program. Also wondering if YYZ is the only base a job option will be available and if living out West and commuting is an option.

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that Flair is imminently going out of business I'd be retired. If you're going to work here you'll need to learn to ignore that.

We are currently hiring First Officers for YVR and YYZ bases and anticipate openings available in both of those bases through 2025.

Cadets who successfully graduate from the iATPL program in 2025 and pass the interview will be offered employment as First Officers and may bid for any available base in order of seniority the same as any other new hire.

Before I criticize the bold part, is the interview for the job before or after they invest 150ishK?

Edit; So, reading the program description, it indicates the interview is before however there is a ton of caveats but they don’t specify exactly.

“Before being accepted into the program, the candidate must complete extensive testing and a job interview directly with the airline. If successful, the candidate will receive a conditional offer of employment from the airline to be hired as a first officer upon graduation”


“Employment Details
To be hired by Flair, you will be required to successfully complete the iATPL Course and the associated licensing qualification requirements set out by Transport Canada, complete a Pilot Proficiency Check on Flair’s aircraft, and have 250 hours of total flight time. The final review will include interview results, a simulator assessment, a successful criminal background check, a medical assessment, Transport Canada exam results, flight test results, and an overall assessment consistent with Flair’s hiring standards”

Seems like the final job offer is based on vague criteria, what is the weight of the test results?

WOW! I figured that once you made into the program, a job would be guaranteed so long as you graduated.

[cdnavater]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that Flair is imminently going out of business I'd be retired. If you're going to work here you'll need to learn to ignore that.

We are currently hiring First Officers for YVR and YYZ bases and anticipate openings available in both of those bases through 2025.

Cadets who successfully graduate from the iATPL program in 2025 and pass the interview will be offered employment as First Officers and may bid for any available base in order of seniority the same as any other new hire.

Before I criticize the bold part, is the interview for the job before or after they invest 150ishK?

Edit; So, reading the program description, it indicates the interview is before however there is a ton of caveats but they don’t specify exactly.

“Before being accepted into the program, the candidate must complete extensive testing and a job interview directly with the airline. If successful, the candidate will receive a conditional offer of employment from the airline to be hired as a first officer upon graduation”


“Employment Details
To be hired by Flair, you will be required to successfully complete the iATPL Course and the associated licensing qualification requirements set out by Transport Canada, complete a Pilot Proficiency Check on Flair’s aircraft, and have 250 hours of total flight time. The final review will include interview results, a simulator assessment, a successful criminal background check, a medical assessment, Transport Canada exam results, flight test results, and an overall assessment consistent with Flair’s hiring standards”

Seems like the final job offer is based on vague criteria, what is the weight of the test results?

WOW! I figured that once you made into the program, a job would be guaranteed so long as you graduated.

Yep, I thought that was the point, you did the screening ahead of the program so you knew whether or not it was a waste of money!

[30 West]

Ontario's Private Career College Act states the following:

PART V 16.2iii

2. The advertisement shall not contain a statement, image or video that,

i. misleads or is likely to mislead the public,

ii. guarantees admission to or successful completion of a vocational program offered at the college,

iii. implies that employment is assured for any students who successfully complete a vocational program offered at the college

[Tbayer2021]

Definitely some very contradictory information even on their own page.

[Flyincanada]

Hello guys !!

I am just curious that Flair has more ground school or not in this year after Feb.

Thank you

[IcePharaoh]

Hello,
Any idea when candidates who interviewed late February will hear back with a decision?
Thanks

[tbaylx]

Hello guys !!

I am just curious that Flair has more ground school or not in this year after Feb.

Thank you

We're tentatively plannign a small groundschool of under 10 pilots in May or June and likely one more in the fall sometime.

[IcePharaoh]

We're tentatively plannign a small groundschool of under 10 pilots in May or June and likely one more in the fall sometime.

When do you anticipate informing interviewed candidates of the outcome for the May/June ground school?
Thanks