25% Tariff on all non US made Autos.

[Inverted2]

with emission BS

Go walk around in Havana/Cuba if you'd like to see the effect of the 'emission BS'. The air is absolutely disgusting. Sometimes the rules make sense.

I don’t visit communist countries on vacation. Living in one is bad enough.

[digits_]

with emission BS

Go walk around in Havana/Cuba if you'd like to see the effect of the 'emission BS'. The air is absolutely disgusting. Sometimes the rules make sense.

I don’t visit communist countries on vacation. Living in one is bad enough.

That statement is ironic on multiple levels

[altiplano]

You need a better accountant. When we were involved in ranching all the food was all paid for because the staff has to eat, the house and all the outbuildings was part of the farm mortgage and written off. All the trucks were part of the operation, farm plates or not and fuel marked or not was a write off, we got preferred electricity and water rates and better property tax rates on the whole property. YMMV.

Did you pass audits with that setup?

Did you write off all those personal expenses but compensated them somewhere else by considering it part of your income?

it seems very unlikely you'd pass audits where you write off all your vehicles and your complete house without any compensation for the personal use. Sounds like some important details might be missing.

I don't know, the accountant did it. It was all wrapped up under the ranch company. The ranch paid for everything at the ranch. There was no income.

[pelmet]

It's more about making sure young children have access to milk for drinking while growing up, than it is about the farmers themselves. It is the reason supply management was originally implemented in the way it was.

I guess if I had known that the entire system was all about the kids having access to milk while growing up, I would have supported it all 100%. We don't want the kids cut off from milk....end of argument.

Anyone else want to comment about this argument and how it applies to how things are today.

[rookiepilot]

It's more about making sure young children have access to milk for drinking while growing up, than it is about the farmers themselves. It is the reason supply management was originally implemented in the way it was.

I guess if I had know that the entire system was all about the kids having access to milk while growing up, I would have supported it all 100%. We don't want the kids cut off from milk....end of argument.

Anyone else want to comment about this argument and how it applies to how things are today.

Yeah. That above statement from GE is about the biggest load of -- well cow manure I have read in quite some time.

[altiplano]

I think an Allende (Chilean socialist) slogan was a glass of milk a day for every child... He nationalised the economy, investment fled, unemployment soared, people were hardup... it was a depression.

That opened the door for a coup and nearly 20 years of a military junta...

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it came to that around here... I don't think people know how bad we have it.

Now Liberals are talking about nationalising home building and real estate development - that makes up a quarter of our GDP which is fucked up in itself, but what's next? I read a proposal for homeowners to give reparations to non-home owners in a generational equity transfer. WTF. I'm sure we'll see capital gains on primary residences come too. That's all just one sector... the real dive to oblivion comes next.

[Old fella]

I think an Allende (Chilean socialist) slogan was a glass of milk a day for every child... He nationalised the economy, investment fled, unemployment soared, people were hardup... it was a depression.

That opened the door for a coup and nearly 20 years of a military junta...

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it came to that around here... I don't think people know how bad we have it.

Now Liberals are talking about nationalising home building and real estate development - that makes up a quarter of our GDP which is fucked up in itself, but what's next? I read a proposal for homeowners to give reparations to non-home owners in a generational equity transfer. WTF. I'm sure we'll see capital gains on primary residences come too. That's all just one sector... the real dive to oblivion comes next.

Well…. If this is your aircraft type at AC, golden opportunity for to take charge on next trip and set old Carney straight with words of wisdom and knowledge. Just possible you may get a sympathetic hearing, may even be given a Comms manager, do a good job perhaps Campaign mgr.

Opportunities are endless for you

[newlygrounded]

Go walk around in Havana/Cuba if you'd like to see the effect of the 'emission BS'. The air is absolutely disgusting. Sometimes the rules make sense.

I don’t visit communist countries on vacation. Living in one is bad enough.

That statement is ironic on multiple levels

Someone tell all the "@#$! trudeau" sticker people that we can't criticize the government apparently!

An American tells a Russian that people in USA have the freedom of speech and that he even could go to the White House and shout:"Go to hell, Ronald Reagan!"

The russian answers:"Oh, we also have freedom of speech. I, too, can go to Kremlin and shout:" Go to hell, Ronald Reagan!"

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Now Liberals are talking about nationalising home building and real estate development - that makes up a quarter of our GDP which is fucked up in itself, but what's next? I read a proposal for homeowners to give reparations to non-home owners in a generational equity transfer. WTF. I'm sure we'll see capital gains on primary residences come too. That's all just one sector... the real dive to oblivion comes next.

I thought you were joking but damn they really are going to build houses on public land with taxpayer dollars. https://liberal.ca/housing-plan/
I'm glad I'll be able to actually buy a home when house prices collapse. Wow, this is going to screw a lot of people will be upside down on their mortgages.

[rookiepilot]

That was a fun press conference with Trump. Markets will be interesting tommorrow.

[‘Bob’]

I think an Allende (Chilean socialist) slogan was a glass of milk a day for every child... He nationalised the economy, investment fled, unemployment soared, people were hardup... it was a depression.

That opened the door for a coup and nearly 20 years of a military junta...

Uh… yeah… about that.

. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état supported by the CIA, which initially denied the allegations.[13][14] In 2000, the CIA admitted its role in the 1970 kidnapping of General René Schneider who had refused to use the army to stop Allende's inauguration.[15][16] Declassified documents released in 2023 showed that US president Richard Nixon, his national security advisor Henry Kissinger, and the United States government, which had branded Allende as a dangerous communist,[8] were aware of the military's plans to overthrow Allende's democratically elected government in the days before the coup d'état.[17] As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, Allende gave his last speech vowing not to resign.[18] Later that day, Allende died by suicide in his office;[19][20][21] the exact circumstances of his death are still disputed.

How many Latin Americans does the CIA have to kill before you realize communism doesn’t work?

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it came to that around here... I don't think people know how bad we have it.

You really think that we have it so bad that the military is going to overthrow a democratically elected government for providing basic social services?

The two situations are completely incomparable.

Now Liberals are talking about nationalising home building and real estate development - that makes up a quarter of our GDP which is fucked up in itself, but what's next? I read a proposal for homeowners to give reparations to non-home owners in a generational equity transfer. WTF. I'm sure we'll see capital gains on primary residences come too. That's all just one sector... the real dive to oblivion comes next.

For those who don’t own homes, it won’t matter. People vote for their own interests. We all should.

The problem is why those who don’t own homes don’t own them in the first place.. and that’s 20 years of fiscal irresponsibility by successive governments on both sides of the political spectrum regarding housing.

Why build houses when you can just hoard and scalp them? 1970s house, zero updates, suited out and rented for at least $1000 a bedroom—more in places like Surrey and Brampton because a closet is now a bedroom.

It’s Canadian Disease.. the stagnation of investment and innovation in favour of easy money in real estate.

So unless the private sector gets its shit together and starts building, public comes in.. and I hope they tax the living daylights out of slumlords and cause rents to fall precipitously.

Homeowners have to lose. All of that artificial wealth is the direct cause of most of the problems Canada faces today. It will be a blip on my net worth that won’t matter 20 years from now, so I’d vote for it in an instant.

And reparations? Already in the works. That’s what generational wealth is and I’m working to transfer as much as I can to my kids just so they can have a chance at the opportunities I had. If they each get a cheque as a result of hoarded wealth… so much the better.

Capital gains on primary residence? Who cares unless you’re a house flipper—then you’re part of the problem.

[rookiepilot]

I think an Allende (Chilean socialist) slogan was a glass of milk a day for every child... He nationalised the economy, investment fled, unemployment soared, people were hardup... it was a depression.

That opened the door for a coup and nearly 20 years of a military junta...

Uh… yeah… about that.

. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état supported by the CIA, which initially denied the allegations.[13][14] In 2000, the CIA admitted its role in the 1970 kidnapping of General René Schneider who had refused to use the army to stop Allende's inauguration.[15][16] Declassified documents released in 2023 showed that US president Richard Nixon, his national security advisor Henry Kissinger, and the United States government, which had branded Allende as a dangerous communist,[8] were aware of the military's plans to overthrow Allende's democratically elected government in the days before the coup d'état.[17] As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, Allende gave his last speech vowing not to resign.[18] Later that day, Allende died by suicide in his office;[19][20][21] the exact circumstances of his death are still disputed.

How many Latin Americans does the CIA have to kill before you realize communism doesn’t work?

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it came to that around here... I don't think people know how bad we have it.

You really think that we have it so bad that the military is going to overthrow a democratically elected government for providing basic social services?

The two situations are completely incomparable.

Now Liberals are talking about nationalising home building and real estate development - that makes up a quarter of our GDP which is fucked up in itself, but what's next? I read a proposal for homeowners to give reparations to non-home owners in a generational equity transfer. WTF. I'm sure we'll see capital gains on primary residences come too. That's all just one sector... the real dive to oblivion comes next.

For those who don’t own homes, it won’t matter. People vote for their own interests. We all should.

The problem is why those who don’t own homes don’t own them in the first place.. and that’s 20 years of fiscal irresponsibility by successive governments on both sides of the political spectrum regarding housing.

Why build houses when you can just hoard and scalp them? 1970s house, zero updates, suited out and rented for at least $1000 a bedroom—more in places like Surrey and Brampton because a closet is now a bedroom.

It’s Canadian Disease.. the stagnation of investment and innovation in favour of easy money in real estate.

So unless the private sector gets its shit together and starts building, public comes in.. and I hope they tax the living daylights out of slumlords and cause rents to fall precipitously.

Homeowners have to lose. All of that artificial wealth is the direct cause of most of the problems Canada faces today. It will be a blip on my net worth that won’t matter 20 years from now, so I’d vote for it in an instant.

And reparations? Already in the works. That’s what generational wealth is and I’m working to transfer as much as I can to my kids just so they can have a chance at the opportunities I had. If they each get a cheque as a result of hoarded wealth… so much the better.

Capital gains on primary residence? Who cares unless you’re a house flipper—then you’re part of the problem.

Annual wealth tax on over 65’s. End wealth hoarding…….

[pelmet]

Must be a bunch of Canadians on this thread. More taxes.

Not hard to see why the liberals will get in again. And the standard of living will continue to go down for most(except the insiders) as outside investors avoid.

[rookiepilot]

Must be a bunch of Canadians on this thread. More taxes.

Not hard to see why the liberals will get in again. And the standard of living will continue to go down for most(except the insiders) as outside investors avoid.

And its Canadians who want loads of free stuff, high wages, 30 sick / personal days a year, work from home, a free Tesla, ability to promote Hamas without repercussions and get paid for doing so, guaranteed lifetime job security, and pensions at 45 or so, all ever having done anything productive.

Yes, all of these are real (not the free Tesla, but the rest of us subsidized anyone who wanted one)

[pelmet]

Must be a bunch of Canadians on this thread. More taxes.

Not hard to see why the liberals will get in again. And the standard of living will continue to go down for most(except the insiders) as outside investors avoid.

And its Canadians who want loads of free stuff, high wages, 30 sick / personal days a year, work from home, a free Tesla, ability to promote Hamas without repercussions and get paid for doing so, guaranteed lifetime job security, and pensions at 45 or so, all ever having done anything productive.

Yes, all of these are real (not the free Tesla, but the rest of us subsidized anyone who wanted one)

Which is why they want more and more taxes. You seem to have joined the crowd.

Perhaps, they could have this if they had the common sense to vote for a party that would use our natural resources to assist.

[rookiepilot]

Must be a bunch of Canadians on this thread. More taxes.

Not hard to see why the liberals will get in again. And the standard of living will continue to go down for most(except the insiders) as outside investors avoid.

And its Canadians who want loads of free stuff, high wages, 30 sick / personal days a year, work from home, a free Tesla, ability to promote Hamas without repercussions and get paid for doing so, guaranteed lifetime job security, and pensions at 45 or so, all ever having done anything productive.

Yes, all of these are real (not the free Tesla, but the rest of us subsidized anyone who wanted one)

Which is why they want more and more taxes. You seem to have joined the crowd.

Perhaps, they could have this if they had the common sense to vote for a party that would use our natural resources to assist.

Only for retired Boomers who have deliberately looted the system and fried their own children in the process.

They need to pony up.

[Dias]

I thought you were joking but damn they really are going to build houses on public land with taxpayer dollars. https://liberal.ca/housing-plan/
I'm glad I'll be able to actually buy a home when house prices collapse. Wow, this is going to screw a lot of people will be upside down on their mortgages.

It sounds great doesn't it? I'd love a cheap Carney house. But the problem with state funded housing, and indeed socialism in general, is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

[pelmet]

Canadian leader Doug Ford proposes eliminating tariffs on US imports — if President Trump does the same

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... r-AA1C9WSZ

I wonder if that includes dairy tariffs? If so, it could be that this ended up as a big win for the vast majority of canadians. Lets get that pipeline approved first and free trade in Canada between all provinces. That could end up being an overall super-huge win for canada in the end result of the tariff war.

[rookiepilot]

Canadian leader Doug Ford proposes eliminating tariffs on US imports — if President Trump does the same

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... r-AA1C9WSZ

I wonder if that includes dairy tariffs? If so, it could be that this ended up as a big win for the vast majority of canadians. Lets get that pipeline approved first and free trade in Canada between all provinces. That could end up being an overall super-huge win for canada in the end result of the tariff war.

Didn’t know he was the PM.

Quebec would never go for this.

Quebec rules the nation.

[pelmet]

Canadian leader Doug Ford proposes eliminating tariffs on US imports — if President Trump does the same

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... r-AA1C9WSZ

I wonder if that includes dairy tariffs? If so, it could be that this ended up as a big win for the vast majority of canadians. Lets get that pipeline approved first and free trade in Canada between all provinces. That could end up being an overall super-huge win for canada in the end result of the tariff war.

Didn’t know he was the PM.

Quebec would never go for this.

Quebec rules the nation.

Maybe it will come down to 100% tariffs on aircraft products from Canada and Quebec can decide between Bombardier/P&W and the dairy farmers. Funny, the average Quebecer would see lower prices, they could vote for it.

[daedalusx]

It’s not even about reciprocal tariffs.
It’s about the USA trade deficit.
Look at the formula they use to calculate their rates. It’s literally (exports - imports) / imports

[CpnCrunch]

It’s not even about reciprocal tariffs.
It’s about the USA trade deficit.
Look at the formula they use to calculate their rates. It’s literally (exports - imports) / imports

Yep, it looks like you're right: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93gq72n7y1o

The whole thing is based on bullshit, as usual.

[daedalusx]

It’s not even about reciprocal tariffs.
It’s about the USA trade deficit.
Look at the formula they use to calculate their rates. It’s literally (exports - imports) / imports

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93gq72n7y1o

My point exactly… they tried to obscure it by multiplying 4x0.25

[pelmet]

I have little doubt that oil will continue to be extracted, refined, and consumed for decades to come. But, consumption will decrease over time as alternative sources of energy continue to decrease in price. As I said, this transition is not going to happen overnight by any means, but as cleaner sources of energy become more affordable and more available oil use will decline. You say "we" could be making massive amounts of money exploiting non-renewable resources, but really you mean corporations would be making money - the average Canadian won't see a dime, and the government(s) see very little of that money as well. Subsidies to oil and gas companies are extremely problematic, and really we shouldn't be giving away our resources for pennies on the dollar to companies who will turn around and leave us as taxpayers holding the bag when bad things happen.

As for pipelines, again we need to come back to TMX. Original cost estimate was $7.4B, Trudeau bought it for $4.5B... final cost estimate of ~$35B. Apparently due to exceedingly low pipeline tolls we are subsidizing the oil industry to the tune of ~$19B a year. But, god forbid "we" increase the tolls to market rates to actually capitalize on our investment because then we would have to hear all about Alberta's supposed "national unity crisis" and how it's not fair that companies pay their fair share. Again, god forbid if the oil companies had to lower their dividends ever so slightly...

This pretty much says it all for the damaging votes of so many Canadians....

"Eric Nuttall
Canada could be the richest country in the world if government just got out of the way and let our world-class energy companies get things built again. To do so we must:
- repeal Bill C-69 which prevents any new pipeline/energy project from being built
- eliminate the production cap which willingly cedes market share to our competitors- eliminate the industrial carbon tax and instead rely on proven technologies"

"Eric Nuttall
PM Carney just confirmed that a 4th term Liberal government will NOT repeal Bill C-69 which makes it impossible for another oil pipeline (or major energy project) to ever be built again. It is imperative that we build more pipelines to both coasts to reduce our customer concentration risk and break our reliance on the US. Not doing so costs billions of dollars per year and risks our very sovereignty. "

And what are the foolish people about to do? To vote to continue down the path of becoming poorer and poorer. I wonder 7ECA understands that millions of Canadians get those dividends from oil companies and that this is a good thing....from income to taxes paid on them. Can you not figure that out.

[digits_]

And what are the foolish people about to do? To vote to continue down the path of becoming poorer and poorer. I wonder 7ECA understands that millions of Canadians get those dividends from oil companies and that this is a good thing....from income to taxes paid on them. Can you not figure that out.

Are you preaching and trying to feel superior based on your political choices, or are you hoping to affect change and convince people to vote differently?

If it's the former, carry on I suppose. If it's the latter, then insulting your target audience won't help your cause much. Try to understand why people vote the way they do, and maybe you can be the change you think this country needs!