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dustyroads
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College of Professional Pilots of Canada

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Does anyone have any opinions on the college? Are the benefits being a member worth the membership fee?
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Eventually we are going to have to get together to protect ourselves from government and corporate bullying. The pilot labour unions have been neutered so there is a vacuum to be filled by whatever organization can help us protect our careers. If we have lost the right to strike (we have) than lobbying is the next best thing.
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**** wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 8:01 pm If we have lost the right to strike (we have) than lobbying is the next best thing.
Except you haven't lost the right to strike, but recent history shows that the groups have lost (or never had) the will to strike.
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I think what they are trying to do is laudable. I don’t know if their goals are realistic, given that there are already Unions, and there is the Honourable Guild of Air Pilots (formerly the Honourable Guild of Air Navigators, but considering most pilots trained after the year 2000 can’t actually navigate, I guess they needed to draw a distinction, but I digress) I’m not sure what they think they are doing. On the one hand there are pilots who see the word “College” and it gets their backs up because they’re too dumb to understand that a college (professional association) is not the same as a college (school that makes you learn stuff). On the other hand there are guys who wonder what professional standards the college espouses and how that fits with their personal views on what constitutes a “professional”..erm, profession?

I don’t know. I pay my membership every year hoping something good will come of it. Like I say, I think what they are trying to do is laudable.
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Meatservo wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:58 am I think what they are trying to do is laudable. I don’t know if their goals are realistic, given that there are already Unions, and there is the Honourable Guild of Air Pilots (formerly the Honourable Guild of Air Navigators, but considering most pilots trained after the year 2000 can’t actually navigate, I guess they needed to draw a distinction, but I digress) I’m not sure what they think they are doing. On the one hand there are pilots who see the word “College” and it gets their backs up because they’re too dumb to understand that a college (professional association) is not the same as a college (school that makes you learn stuff). On the other hand there are guys who wonder what professional standards the college espouses and how that fits with their personal views on what constitutes a “professional”..erm, profession?

I don’t know. I pay my membership every year hoping something good will come of it. Like I say, I think what they are trying to do is laudable.
This is on point. In a nutshell, the College really doesn’t have a clear and unique aim. Unions represent pilots’ interests on the labour front and Transport Canada regulates professional standards. The College amounts to redundant efforts and costs on both fronts.
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goldeneagle wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:39 am
**** wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 8:01 pm If we have lost the right to strike (we have) than lobbying is the next best thing.
Except you haven't lost the right to strike, but recent history shows that the groups have lost (or never had) the will to strike.
Despite having the most pro labor government in over 20 years, it seems almost every major union that decided to strike was forced back to arbitration.
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newlygrounded wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 7:34 pm
goldeneagle wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:39 am
**** wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 8:01 pm If we have lost the right to strike (we have) than lobbying is the next best thing.
Except you haven't lost the right to strike, but recent history shows that the groups have lost (or never had) the will to strike.
Despite having the most pro labor government in over 20 years, it seems almost every major union that decided to strike was forced back to arbitration.
Exactly. So nothing really changed except for this quote that I found on line:

"By nearly every metric the country is doing worse now than in 2015. Canadians feel less pride  in their country. Our GDP growth per capita is second to last among OECD countries and total GDP per capita is equivalent to the poorest American states. Since 2015, Canada has been undeniably getting poorer , indeed, had our economy stuck to the 2015 baseline trends, we’d all be $4200 per year richer. Crime, including violent crime and drug abuse, are up. Finally, in perhaps the saddest result of all, young Canadians feel hopeless about their prospects of owning a home as prices have skyrocketed, with the average housing price getting more expensive by $43 dollars per day, every day, since the Liberals came to office; adjusted for inflation that’s an increase of over $150,000 for new homebuyers."

Yet Canadians voted again for more of the same. Wait for these massive projects to not include pipelines but massive electrification that continues to make the average Canadian poorer and has no noticeable effect globally on the climate.

Don't feel too bad though....the insiders like government workers are doing just fine.
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