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Hello, I am curious about how the application process is. I applied last fall after hearing rumours about people getting hired at 1500 hours. When I applied I got an automated response of thank you for your application, and then a day or two later saying reapply when I have min 2000. I applied again now, for some reason it came back with an automatic response of my application wasn’t complete, so I redid it and it says successfully submitted, but I am not getting the automatic email saying thank you for applying. Just wondering if this is normal
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Don't be in too much of a hurry to join. Low time new hires are failing out of training. After that happens I'd be surprised if you get another chance in the future.
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Daniel Cooper wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:45 pm Don't be in too much of a hurry to join. Low time new hires are failing out of training. After that happens I'd be surprised if you get another chance in the future.
Calm down. Guys who fail usually don't do so because they 'only have 2000hrs'. They do so because of their work ethic and attitude. I've done plenty of line indoc in medium jets on pilots with as low as 1500 hours with great attitudes and seem keen to learn and are successful in their training as a result. If AC is his goal, the sooner the better. Seniority is king here.
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flying4dollars wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:41 pm
Daniel Cooper wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:45 pm Don't be in too much of a hurry to join. Low time new hires are failing out of training. After that happens I'd be surprised if you get another chance in the future.
Calm down. Guys who fail usually don't do so because they 'only have 2000hrs'. They do so because of their work ethic and attitude. I've done plenty of line indoc in medium jets on pilots with as low as 1500 hours with great attitudes and seem keen to learn and are successful in their training as a result. If AC is his goal, the sooner the better. Seniority is king here.
But he only got to regional right seat at 6000hrs. He can't phantom someone going Legacy at "only" 2000hrs. They will surely fail. These millennials I tell you...
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Me262 wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:21 am
flying4dollars wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:41 pm
Daniel Cooper wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:45 pm Don't be in too much of a hurry to join. Low time new hires are failing out of training. After that happens I'd be surprised if you get another chance in the future.
Calm down. Guys who fail usually don't do so because they 'only have 2000hrs'. They do so because of their work ethic and attitude. I've done plenty of line indoc in medium jets on pilots with as low as 1500 hours with great attitudes and seem keen to learn and are successful in their training as a result. If AC is his goal, the sooner the better. Seniority is king here.
But he only got to regional right seat at 6000hrs. He can't phantom someone going Legacy at "only" 2000hrs. They will surely fail. These millennials I tell you...
Fathom, phantom is a ghost!
It’s not about how many hours it takes to be successful, it’s about the pilot themselves and their confidence that really makes the difference.
I have no idea how many 2000ish pilots fail at AC but it’s not none, the more hours(good hours) the better chance of making it through. There is a reason that AC puts pilots through a SIM eval now and it’s not because they like spending money on useless things, well maybe it is that come to think of it.
So, the message is a valid one, if you are applying to AC at the bare minimum, be aware that there is a chance you won’t succeed and that may be a much longer delay than waiting a year to have some more experience, maybe some left seat King Air time, excluding the one guy that’s always here who just can’t seem to get a job despite his thousands of King air time!
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cdnavater wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:20 am
Me262 wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:21 am
flying4dollars wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:41 pm

Calm down. Guys who fail usually don't do so because they 'only have 2000hrs'. They do so because of their work ethic and attitude. I've done plenty of line indoc in medium jets on pilots with as low as 1500 hours with great attitudes and seem keen to learn and are successful in their training as a result. If AC is his goal, the sooner the better. Seniority is king here.
But he only got to regional right seat at 6000hrs. He can't phantom someone going Legacy at "only" 2000hrs. They will surely fail. These millennials I tell you...
Fathom, phantom is a ghost!
It’s not about how many hours it takes to be successful, it’s about the pilot themselves and their confidence that really makes the difference.
I have no idea how many 2000ish pilots fail at AC but it’s not none, the more hours(good hours) the better chance of making it through. There is a reason that AC puts pilots through a SIM eval now and it’s not because they like spending money on useless things, well maybe it is that come to think of it.
So, the message is a valid one, if you are applying to AC at the bare minimum, be aware that there is a chance you won’t succeed and that may be a much longer delay than waiting a year to have some more experience, maybe some left seat King Air time, excluding the one guy that’s always here who just can’t seem to get a job despite his thousands of King air time!
It's not a message we should be sending. Of course experience generally helps. It all comes down the the candidate themselves. Put in the work, make the effort, use the resources made plentifully available to you, and yes you WILL succeed. In all my years as a trainer, I've seen first hand the direct correlation between work ethic and training success/failure. Guess what? It was not always experience based.
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