Flight Attendant strike vote opens on July 28th

[dustyroads]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

[newlygrounded]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

In what world does a person making less than the poverty line one that "money can't be an issue"

[boeingboy]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

Wow.

Your going to be popular if you ever land that first regional job.......

[dustyroads]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

In what world does a person making less than the poverty line one that "money can't be an issue"

No one on the picket line looked like they were living in poverty, all appeared dressed well, nourished and wearing makeup.
Instead of striking just quit. The company will not be hurt by striking employees and they know it lol, if all attendants quit then that would be a whole different story.

[newlygrounded]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

In what world does a person making less than the poverty line one that "money can't be an issue"

No one on the picket line looked like they were living in poverty, all appeared dressed well, nourished and wearing makeup.
Instead of striking just quit. The company will not be hurt by striking employees and they know it lol, if all attendants quit then that would be a whole different story.

I once saw a homeless man with an iPhone so they must all be pulling in 100k type of logic

[Justjohn]

That didn’t take long:

BREAKING: Jobs minister orders Air Canada flight attendants back to work

Air Canada to resume flights as Government orders Binding Arbitration. Flight attendants are to return to work much to the relief of the travelling public

The negotiations have been going on for 8 months with little progress

The federal government has stepped in to address the labour dispute at Canada’s largest airline after a strike by flight attendants grounded hundreds of flights and raised concerns about economic fallout.

Labour Minister Patty Hajdu announced she has instructed the Canada Industrial Relations Board to order Air Canada and the union representing its flight attendants to resume operations and settle their differences through binding arbitration.

Hajdu said she made the decision following a Friday night meeting with both parties, where it became clear negotiations had stalled and the two sides were still far apart.

“In this case, despite progress on several key issues, it’s evident the dispute cannot be resolved quickly enough,” she said at a news conference in Ottawa. “Canadians have already endured significant sacrifices in this uncertain economy, and this labour disruption only adds to their stress and financial strain.

Operations should be back to normal in the next few days

Please stay on topic of the strike actions.

#ottawa #aircanada #strike

[truecolours]

Article 107 has essentially made unions irrelevant in this country. FA’s, pilots, ame’s and every other unionized employee is essentially screwed going forward. All companies now know they get away with not negotiating.

[PostmasterGeneral]

That didn’t take long:

BREAKING: Jobs minister orders Air Canada flight attendants back to work

Air Canada to resume flights as Government orders Binding Arbitration. Flight attendants are to return to work much to the relief of the travelling public

The negotiations have been going on for 8 months with little progress

The federal government has stepped in to address the labour dispute at Canada’s largest airline after a strike by flight attendants grounded hundreds of flights and raised concerns about economic fallout.

Labour Minister Patty Hajdu announced she has instructed the Canada Industrial Relations Board to order Air Canada and the union representing its flight attendants to resume operations and settle their differences through binding arbitration.

Hajdu said she made the decision following a Friday night meeting with both parties, where it became clear negotiations had stalled and the two sides were still far apart.

“In this case, despite progress on several key issues, it’s evident the dispute cannot be resolved quickly enough,” she said at a news conference in Ottawa. “Canadians have already endured significant sacrifices in this uncertain economy, and this labour disruption only adds to their stress and financial strain.

Operations should be back to normal in the next few days

Please stay on topic of the strike actions.

#ottawa #aircanada #strike

They’re not ordered back to work, it was just referred to the CIRB. Any decision most likely won’t be handed down until mid next week. Until then, the strike continues and the operation is at a standstill.

[planenuts]

That didn’t take long:

BREAKING: Jobs minister orders Air Canada flight attendants back to work

Air Canada to resume flights as Government orders Binding Arbitration. Flight attendants are to return to work much to the relief of the travelling public

The negotiations have been going on for 8 months with little progress

The federal government has stepped in to address the labour dispute at Canada’s largest airline after a strike by flight attendants grounded hundreds of flights and raised concerns about economic fallout.

Labour Minister Patty Hajdu announced she has instructed the Canada Industrial Relations Board to order Air Canada and the union representing its flight attendants to resume operations and settle their differences through binding arbitration.

Hajdu said she made the decision following a Friday night meeting with both parties, where it became clear negotiations had stalled and the two sides were still far apart.

“In this case, despite progress on several key issues, it’s evident the dispute cannot be resolved quickly enough,” she said at a news conference in Ottawa. “Canadians have already endured significant sacrifices in this uncertain economy, and this labour disruption only adds to their stress and financial strain.

Operations should be back to normal in the next few days

Please stay on topic of the strike actions.

#ottawa #aircanada #strike

They’re not ordered back to work, it was just referred to the CIRB. Any decision most likely won’t be handed down until mid next week. Until then, the strike continues and the operation is at a standstill.

100% correct.

This is exactly what happened to us. They ordered binding arbitration - however because we were in a legal strike position - we were legally allowed to strike. (much to the shock and dismay of the company and public) What worked in our favor though is that we were not that far apart and it was a long weekend. We got a negotiated settlement out of it. I wish the FA's the best - but I don't think they will get anything negotiated....this one will most likely be imposed.

[TalkingPie]

100% correct.

This is exactly what happened to us. They ordered binding arbitration - however because we were in a legal strike position - we were legally allowed to strike. (much to the shock and dismay of the company and public) What worked in our favor though is that we were not that far apart and it was a long weekend. We got a negotiated settlement out of it. I wish the FA's the best - but I don't think they will get anything negotiated....this one will most likely be imposed.

I think you're right about all that.

I think this was Air Canada's plan all along. In fact, someone did some digging and discovered that the CIRB chairperson, Maryse Tremblay, is former in-house counsel at Air Canada. No conflict of interest there at all, I'm sure.

But I still think that this might get bigger before it's over. CUPE is making noise. I don't know if it's just the emotion of the moment, but juniors say they're ready to lose their jobs over this. Unionized workers everywhere are realizing to what extent that we just don't have rights at all anymore if something isn't done.

[BrassCraft]

Time for a wildcat strike by all CUPE members. It has sadly become the status quo for the liberal government to intervene in labour negotiations. It is clear to company’s that all they need to do is faux negotiations until an impasse/strike and boom the heavy hand of the government and the CIRB will step in and order workers back to work. Unions no longer have a real seat at the negotiating table. Would be amazing to see some unity across the country, across professions and across industries. Work stoppage for Monday CUPE wide on Monday sending a message to industry and the government. Go beyond Monday if needed.

[Dry Guy]

Always two steps ahead.

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[daedalusx]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

Wow.

Your going to be popular if you ever land that first regional job.......

Imagine being such a loser that you can’t even get a regional job and then have the audacity to punch on infinitely better people who are making sacrifices to improves their lives and the lives of their colleagues.

[sportingrifle]

I hope the new AC ALPA reps are paying very close attention to how this is playing out. Peak leverage is not after the airline starts unwinding the operation, and AC BOD and execs are incredibly well connected politically. All lessons we learned before, but that are often overlooked more recently. We are not the next up to bat, agents and rampies are next, but we are only a couple of years away.
(Spoiler Alert) Charlene and company may end up looking a lot more tuned in than a lot of people thought they were. And some of the old vitriolic posts from “thepoors” are probably going to age badly in the next few days.

[Me262]

What are the flight attendants issues? They applied, accepted an offer of employment that outlined everything then end up whining. I’d say they’re overpaid for what they actually do. Money can’t be an issue for them, if one is struggling you usually can’t afford make up lol I fully support the company and the shareholders comes first.

Wow.

Your going to be popular if you ever land that first regional job.......

Imagine being such a loser that you can’t even get a regional job and then have the audacity to punch on infinitely better people who are making sacrifices to improves their lives and the lives of their colleagues.

Just a corporate shill account

[thepoors]

I hope the new AC ALPA reps are paying very close attention to how this is playing out. Peak leverage is not after the airline starts unwinding the operation, and AC BOD and execs are incredibly well connected politically. All lessons we learned before, but that are often overlooked more recently. We are not the next up to bat, agents and rampies are next, but we are only a couple of years away.
(Spoiler Alert) Charlene and company may end up looking a lot more tuned in than a lot of people thought they were. And some of the old vitriolic posts from “thepoors” are probably going to age badly in the next few days.

Not sure what world of denial you're living in bud but folding early was never the right move. At the very least we are finally getting to see the corruption and collusion going on between AC management and this government out in the open. CUPE has done everything right in a transparent way (unlike the backroom dealing that went on with ALPA) and they are being kneecapped by a direct violation of charter rights.

If this is allowed to continue the way it's going, unions will effectively be meaningless in this country. Companies will never need to negotiate when they can just force a strike/lockout and then count on the feds to bail them out. There won't be "peak" leverage let alone any leverage. This is the death of collective bargaining, glad you're getting a kick out of it as our coworkers are stripped of their rights and continue to suffer under unfair labour practices. I'm sure it will play out well for us in the next round

[sportingrifle]

ThePoors….
Not bad, 30 min response time.
Uncommonly, with the exception of the first and last sentence, I actually agree with everything you just posted.

[Old fella]

Strange game indeed…… Air Canada isn’t an essential service, it’s just one of the many providers( transportation) and there certainly will be no huge economical crisis in letting this strike continue, just an inconvenience to those who are caught out. Governments who resort to calling in the dogs - Conservatives and Liberals are all guilty- will be seen at some point as a constant erosion of collective bargaining rights making union representation essentially useless. Torquing people up enough and wildcat strikes will be the norm.

The Carney Government has made a bad decision.

[TalkingPie]

Various rescue flights that were scheduled the 18th - Frankfurt, Dublin, Bogota, Narita and more - have been cancelled, leaving crews stranded since the 15th.

At least one flight attendant was told by Crew Sched that they were "certain" that cabin crew would be back at work on the 18th, so crew are being left in place to operate home.

[Dias]

I'm surprised anyone was willing to leave the country with the looming strike deadline and a past history of leaving crews high and dry. We've all been tricked by Crew Sched. Once.

[TheStig]

ThePoors….
Not bad, 30 min response time.
Uncommonly, with the exception of the first and last sentence, I actually agree with everything you just posted.

Everyone is going to have their own opinion on when ALPA had peak leverage, but can we agree that it's better to be able to vote on a contract negotiated by the Union than have one handed down from an Arbitrator?

[GIVCE!]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-cana ... -1.7611078

Here we go.

[thepoors]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-cana ... -1.7611078

Here we go.

What a real union looks like.

[TalkingPie]

Mark Hancock, president of CUPE National, had a few words to say at a rally in Toronto today. Montreal had a pow-wow in front of AC headquarters and at the airport, as well as Calgary and Vancouver. Members and leaders from other unions came out and showed their solidarity in the rain.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1067386812264911

[Launchpad1]

Finally! Someone is standing up to this corrupt nonsense. Good for them.