Westjet 737 Gear collapse in SXM today

[RoAF-Mig21]

Westjet had a gear collapse on landing in SXM. WS2276 from YYZ.

https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/196475 ... 71/video/1



https://x.com/i/status/1964765888550498633

https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/196476 ... 94/video/2

[RoAF-Mig21]

More videos:
https://x.com/i/status/1964779891976777753

From inside the plane:
https://x.com/i/status/1964779316710936580

[pelmet]

Looks like the PR guy that used to work for AC now works for Westjet.

According the the CBC.....WJ is calling the accident a 'Hard Landing'.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/w ... 072d&ei=16

[BrassCraft]

Looks like the PR guy that used to work for AC now works for Westjet.

According the the CBC.....WJ is calling the accident a 'Hard Landing'.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/w ... 072d&ei=16

Well it’s a French pilot sooo… hard landing tracks.

[boeingboy]

Looks like the PR guy that used to work for AC now works for Westjet.

According the the CBC.....WJ is calling the accident a 'Hard Landing'.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/w ... 072d&ei=16

Really???
I mean what else are you going to say? Even though this wasn't a hard landing (that broke it at least). It's most likely a trunnion pin failure like we've seen before. It would take a near crash to break the gear on a 737.

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[Gear Jerker]

Looks like the PR guy that used to work for AC now works for Westjet.

According the the CBC.....WJ is calling the accident a 'Hard Landing'.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/w ... 072d&ei=16

lol come on now. CFIT into a localizer building and approach lighting short of the runway where the aircraft skids from off the runway and comes to a rest on it heavily damaged and totally written off after taking out most of the lead in lights, vs what at first glance looks like a pretty normal firm touchdown in a gusty crosswind. Absolutely not the same thing.

[pelmet]

Looks like the PR guy that used to work for AC now works for Westjet.

According the the CBC.....WJ is calling the accident a 'Hard Landing'.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/w ... 072d&ei=16

lol come on now. CFIT into a localizer building and approach lighting short of the runway where the aircraft skids from off the runway and comes to a rest on it heavily damaged and totally written off after taking out most of the lead in lights, vs what at first glance looks like a pretty normal firm touchdown in a gusty crosswind. Absolutely not the same thing.

But it is still a hard landing.

[boeingboy]

Looks like the PR guy that used to work for AC now works for Westjet.

According the the CBC.....WJ is calling the accident a 'Hard Landing'.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/w ... 072d&ei=16

lol come on now. CFIT into a localizer building and approach lighting short of the runway where the aircraft skids from off the runway and comes to a rest on it heavily damaged and totally written off after taking out most of the lead in lights, vs what at first glance looks like a pretty normal firm touchdown in a gusty crosswind. Absolutely not the same thing.

But it is still a hard landing.

How do you know? you have access to the FDR?

[daedalusx]

Everyone that called the Alaska air landing into SNA a hard landing had to eat crow when it came out that it was only 1.7G and the collapse happened due to improper maintenance

https://aviationweek.com/mro/safety-ops ... r-collapse

[pelmet]

lol come on now. CFIT into a localizer building and approach lighting short of the runway where the aircraft skids from off the runway and comes to a rest on it heavily damaged and totally written off after taking out most of the lead in lights, vs what at first glance looks like a pretty normal firm touchdown in a gusty crosswind. Absolutely not the same thing.

But it is still a hard landing.

How do you know? you have access to the FDR?

I was referring to the AC flight(but admittedly was not clear about that).

[boeingboy]

But it is still a hard landing.

How do you know? you have access to the FDR?

I was referring to the AC flight(but admittedly was not clear about that).

Apologies.

[safetyfirst123]

Well it’s a French pilot sooo… hard landing tracks.

This was an experienced crew who are now dealing with difficult circumstances, and it could have happened to any one of us. I hope they are given all the courtesy and respect going forward by the company, and colleagues whether from Westjet or anywhere else. Let's see what the data shows and maybe learn from it.

[Stu Pidasso]

Talk about a clueless tower controller, how about you get your eyes out the window sweetheart.

[Eric Janson]

Talk about a clueless tower controller, how about you get your eyes out the window sweetheart.

The tower is located on the left and behind where the aircraft stopped. Don't think the controller could see that anything abnormal was going on.

https://avherald.com/h?article=52ca435b&opt=0

Nothing unusual in the weather reports - normal tropical conditions. Wind almost straight down the runway.

[Inverted2]

That will be quite the repair job if they don’t scrap it. No hangars there and a lot of structural repairs…..

[Pacqing]

Scrap it?? If KBA can go to the Antarctic and do that nose replacement on a turbo 3 then I'm sure a crew can jack and bolt on some angle iron for a ferry flight . A bit more than that I know but I'm sure it will be ferried out.

[Donald]

Another example of poor radio work.

If you need the trucks, start with "Pan-Pan Pan-Pan Pan-Pan".

It's really not hard, and it gets the message across clearly. Especially if there's any language barrier.

[planenuts]

WS 2276....

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[planenuts]

ASA 1288....

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[Inverted2]

Scrap it?? If KBA can go to the Antarctic and do that nose replacement on a turbo 3 then I'm sure a crew can jack and bolt on some angle iron for a ferry flight . A bit more than that I know but I'm sure it will be ferried out.

True dat, but a DC3 is a much rarer an irreplaceable aircraft. Tons of older 737-800s will be going to the boneyard soon as newer ones arrive.

[Eric Janson]

Scrap it?? If KBA can go to the Antarctic and do that nose replacement on a turbo 3 then I'm sure a crew can jack and bolt on some angle iron for a ferry flight . A bit more than that I know but I'm sure it will be ferried out.

It needs a new right engine as well as structural repairs - that's a complex repair. They will need to build a temporary hangar and bring in teams of people plus parts.

It will come down to the cost of repairs vs. the residual value of the airframe.

[Inverted2]

The PAL Q400 that had the gear collapse in YHZ was scrapped. That was a few hundred feet from their hangar. All depends on what the airframe value vs. repair is.

[pelmet]

Another example of poor radio work.

If you need the trucks, start with "Pan-Pan Pan-Pan Pan-Pan".

It's really not hard, and it gets the message across clearly. Especially if there's any language barrier.

I can't even understand the Westjet pilot when he speaks. Is there an English proficiency issues with some of their pilots?

[nohojob]

Maybe, just maybe he was slightly nervous ?

[safetyfirst123]

I can't even understand the Westjet pilot when he speaks. Is there an English proficiency issues with some of their pilots?

Disrespectful comment. Consider that listening to LiveATC transmissions like what we heard is not like being in the tower or airplane. From the info that we have right now, the situation was handled very well by the crew.