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Good day all. Was wondering what the current hiring market is for FO's in Canada. I'm currently flying right seat on the E-Jets in Europe for a flag carrier and have just over 1500 hours TT. Most of my time is in the Embraer. Due to family reasons, im going to have to move back home at some point and continue flying in Canada to be closer to my family. What makes someone competitive nowadays? Ive been out of the loop for a while in regards to the pilot market. Cheers!
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golecchr wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:23 am Good day all. Was wondering what the current hiring market is for FO's in Canada. I'm currently flying right seat on the E-Jets in Europe for a flag carrier and have just over 1500 hours TT. Most of my time is in the Embraer. Due to family reasons, im going to have to move back home at some point and continue flying in Canada to be closer to my family. What makes someone competitive nowadays? Ive been out of the loop for a while in regards to the pilot market. Cheers!
I don't think you'll have a problem getting on with Jazz, Encore or Porter. Do you have your ATPL?
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If you have to come back to Canada, wait until you have 2000 hours and go to AC, assuming you have you'll have your Canadian ATPL. It's the only place i'd go if coming back to Canada with your experience. You could also go Porter or Westjet mainline, but I wouldn't consider anything else in your position. Whatever you do, with your experience, DO NOT go to the regionals like Jazz or Encore unless you plan on going left seat right away, it would be career regression, in my opinion

Hiring has slowed versus the post covid hiring craze, but it seems to be steady more or less at all the airlines
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twa22 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:39 am If you have to come back to Canada, wait until you have 2000 hours and go to AC, assuming you have you'll have your Canadian ATPL. It's the only place i'd go if coming back to Canada with your experience. You could also go Porter or Westjet mainline, but I wouldn't consider anything else in your position. Whatever you do, with your experience, DO NOT go to the regionals like Jazz or Encore unless you plan on going left seat right away, it would be career regression, in my opinion

Hiring has slowed versus the post covid hiring craze, but it seems to be steady more or less at all the airlines
Depending his age, WJ can be a much better option with their socialized bidding. Even Porter since (currently) they are hiring a lot for expansion. At AC you will hate your life the first 5 years due to seniority. The hiring gravy train stopped in 2024, and thus, the seniority progression.
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I would do everything you can to not make the move. You don't want to be low seniority in this economy. You are going to get laid off.
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Dry Guy wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 12:35 pm I would do everything you can to not make the move. You don't want to be low seniority in this economy. You are going to get laid off.
I second this. Going to be some rough times ahead.
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Me262 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:50 am
twa22 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:39 am If you have to come back to Canada, wait until you have 2000 hours and go to AC, assuming you have you'll have your Canadian ATPL. It's the only place i'd go if coming back to Canada with your experience. You could also go Porter or Westjet mainline, but I wouldn't consider anything else in your position. Whatever you do, with your experience, DO NOT go to the regionals like Jazz or Encore unless you plan on going left seat right away, it would be career regression, in my opinion

Hiring has slowed versus the post covid hiring craze, but it seems to be steady more or less at all the airlines
Depending his age, WJ can be a much better option with their socialized bidding. Even Porter since (currently) they are hiring a lot for expansion. At AC you will hate your life the first 5 years due to seniority. The hiring gravy train stopped in 2024, and thus, the seniority progression.
There’s no real socialized bidding until you’re a block holder and if you’re a new hire at WJ right now, expect years of reserve depending on your base.

But yeah pretty much you’d be better off anywhere else than jazz or encore. I’d take a respectable 703 job over a regional in this economy.
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Bede wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:31 am
golecchr wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:23 am Good day all. Was wondering what the current hiring market is for FO's in Canada. I'm currently flying right seat on the E-Jets in Europe for a flag carrier and have just over 1500 hours TT. Most of my time is in the Embraer. Due to family reasons, im going to have to move back home at some point and continue flying in Canada to be closer to my family. What makes someone competitive nowadays? Ive been out of the loop for a while in regards to the pilot market. Cheers!
I don't think you'll have a problem getting on with Jazz, Encore or Porter. Do you have your ATPL?
Yes i do, but my IR is probably not valid. I was thinking of Porter since they're expanding and have time on type. Thanks!
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I dont' think your instrument rating never expires in Canada.
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Dry Guy wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:40 am I dont' think your instrument rating never expires in Canada.
It doesn’t expire but it does need to be current to validate an ATPL. So IPC or PPC within the last 12 months or within 24 months with the 6/6/6 satisfied, not sure if a PPC from another country can be transferred for the purpose of that reg
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Porter would be your best bet: expansion, lots of hiring and a command upgrade after 2 years.
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gowest wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 5:56 am Porter would be your best bet: expansion, lots of hiring and a command upgrade after 2 years.
Highly agree. AC would be a second choice. WestJet only a consideration if planning to live where Porter and AC don’t have bases. You will likely never see a left seat at WJ.
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How could you be so sure of that ?
Right now it seems it takes about 10 years to get a left seat at WJ.
It is not great of course, but for a young pilot, career wise, it could be worth it.
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