Emirates after AC

[altiplano]

That's not a meltdown.

That's a fair response to low IQ discussion with a group that fail to comprehend or understand basic shit and instead twist and misrepresent and insult.

I guess that's avcanada in a nut shell... instead of a discussion it's a shit mob.

What are you still doing here anyway? Shouldn't you be out building time or something? Getting a job and some flying experience to go to Dubai? Good luck. Let me know how you make out and show me how it's done.

[MorePlates]

That's not a meltdown.

That's a fair response to low IQ discussion with a group that fail to comprehend or understand basic shit and instead twist and misrepresent and insult.

I guess that's avcanada in a nut shell... instead of a discussion it's a shit mob.

What are you still doing here anyway? Shouldn't you be out building time or something? Getting a job and some flying experience to go to Dubai? Good luck. Let me know how you make out and show me how it's done.

Guess you had time to cool off before jumping back into this thread, since I see the coping strategies making a comeback… oh, my dear friend, that was a meltdown.

Lower Mainland weather, all my flights getting cancelled … so I decided to be productive and educate some boomer pilots here. Thanks for asking, though!

And why would I let you know how I make out? My girlfriend knows, and I’d like for only her to know

[daedalusx]

Yeah, the state of Canada and Canadians taxes are bullshit and we need to be paid even more to make up for it. Thank the real boomers for that one, and honestly you fucking children that keep voting for socialists and digging us deeper.

You’re not entirely wrong but all the younger generations are clearly more conservative than the boomers.

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[Ozinater]

To OP’s question. If you want to be able to afford a house without moving halfway around the planet, but you still like dry, arid climates and hedonism, consider doing the following:

1. Get your FAA ATP certificate.
2. Get Tinder Gold and start swiping in the Las Vegas area.
3. Find an American wife, get a green card, and apply to a part 121 operator (regional), probably commute from LAS for a bit.
4. Get on with one of: Southwest, Frontier(?), Spirit(?) or Avelo. All have LAS bases.
5. Climb the payscale while enjoying no state income tax in Nevada (where slavery has already been abolished) and your days off at home in sin city instead of the crew hotel in Bangalore, India.
6. Purchase a 5+ bedroom mansion for you and your new found wife to live in. Maybe a comically large garage for your collection of Bentleys, RRs, Jaguars and Aston Martins.

Sound good?

Disclaimer before I get personally attacked and called a boomer for not jumping on the bandwagon:
I am not a boomer. I am not a senior AC captain. I am not a beneficiary of historically “cheap” housing. I do not own multiple houses, rental properties, vacation homes, cottages, etc. Actually quite far removed from that demographic. Hah.

[flying4dollars]

I see it's really easy to get the keyboard warrior all fired up

[ant_321]

There’s no doubt you can make money in the sandbox. You will work your ass off for it though. My friend went there recently and he said he’s spending at least twice as much time on the road than he ever had in his career up to this point.

I thought I wanted the ex pat life when I was young and dumb as well. I had no interest in AC. The thing about getting that job at Emirates is it takes time. Most people in that time will start to put down roots. Before you know it you have more than just yourself to think about it. When I was 19 I didn’t think anything would stop me from making the jump. Once I got to the minimum hiring requirements just a few years later I had no interest, didn’t even apply.

I’m not saying the same will happen to you, but you may be surprised how your priorities change after a couple years.

[MorePlates]

Altiplano rebutted once and if it were me, I'd have just made my point once and moved on.

Snowflakes sure love giving advice… but actually following it? Yeah, that’s too much to ask.

[MorePlates]

To OP’s question. If you want to be able to afford a house without moving halfway around the planet, but you still like dry, arid climates and hedonism, consider doing the following:

1. Get your FAA ATP certificate.
2. Get Tinder Gold and start swiping in the Las Vegas area.
3. Find an American wife, get a green card, and apply to a part 121 operator (regional), probably commute from LAS for a bit.
4. Get on with one of: Southwest, Frontier(?), Spirit(?) or Avelo. All have LAS bases.
5. Climb the payscale while enjoying no state income tax in Nevada (where slavery has already been abolished) and your days off at home in sin city instead of the crew hotel in Bangalore, India.
6. Purchase a 5+ bedroom mansion for you and your new found wife to live in. Maybe a comically large garage for your collection of Bentleys, RRs, Jaguars and Aston Martins.

Sound good?

Disclaimer before I get personally attacked and called a boomer for not jumping on the bandwagon:
I am not a boomer. I am not a senior AC captain. I am not a beneficiary of historically “cheap” housing. I do not own multiple houses, rental properties, vacation homes, cottages, etc. Actually quite far removed from that demographic. Hah.

7. Wake up and get on the road for the 2 hour commute to YYZ.

[flying4dollars]

Altiplano rebutted once and if it were me, I'd have just made my point once and moved on.

Snowflakes sure love giving advice… but actually following it? Yeah, that’s too much to ask.

I wasn't involved in that debate. I just wonder why you are so feverishly triggered by some internet posts. Keyboard warriors are always so chirpy

[MorePlates]

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[MorePlates]

I wasn't involved in that debate. I just wonder why you are so feverishly triggered by some internet posts. Keyboard warriors are always so chirpy

Why Altiplano even entertained responding to your constant mud slinging great points is beyond me.

Triggered? Not at all, snowflake. It’s just killing me that you wrote these sentences yourself and now that the same thing is happening to you, you can’t even see it.

[Ozinater]

To OP’s question. If you want to be able to afford a house without moving halfway around the planet, but you still like dry, arid climates and hedonism, consider doing the following:

1. Get your FAA ATP certificate.
2. Get Tinder Gold and start swiping in the Las Vegas area.
3. Find an American wife, get a green card, and apply to a part 121 operator (regional), probably commute from LAS for a bit.
4. Get on with one of: Southwest, Frontier(?), Spirit(?) or Avelo. All have LAS bases.
5. Climb the payscale while enjoying no state income tax in Nevada (where slavery has already been abolished) and your days off at home in sin city instead of the crew hotel in Bangalore, India.
6. Purchase a 5+ bedroom mansion for you and your new found wife to live in. Maybe a comically large garage for your collection of Bentleys, RRs, Jaguars and Aston Martins.

Sound good?

Disclaimer before I get personally attacked and called a boomer for not jumping on the bandwagon:
I am not a boomer. I am not a senior AC captain. I am not a beneficiary of historically “cheap” housing. I do not own multiple houses, rental properties, vacation homes, cottages, etc. Actually quite far removed from that demographic. Hah.

7. Wake up and get on the road for the 2 hour commute to YYZ.

Or don’t.

In all seriousness, OP’s goal is to make some money and buy a house. And he’s willing to move to the UAE for 10 years to do that, just to come back and start from scratch, seniority-wise, here. If that really is his goal and he’s willing to uproot his life in Canada to that extent (assuming single, no major commitments), then maybe he should limit his dating/relationship pool to the US with the intent of moving there. Whether that’s by meeting someone on his next US overnight or via some dating app. I used to work with a guy who did exactly that (not in Vegas though). Get that right to work in the states, FAA ATP conversion, and he already has transport category jet time presumably from Canada. Start off at a US regional and you’re already making more than you would at a lot of Canadian 705s.

After that, wherever he ends up, AA, UA, DL or other, I seriously doubt he’s gonna leave. Don’t bother spending a decade burning out in the middle east just to come back to Canada to be at the bottom of the seniority list of whatever company (seen that movie many times before). If he really wants to move back and get into the Toronto housing market (*barf*), go ahead and commute. Get a good accountant to do your taxes. I know a guy at a US legacy with dual citizenship who commutes from Canada on long call reserve. If you want to continue living in Canada, at least a lot of the US contracts have a respectable commuting policy. Most Canadians who have gotten on with US carriers seem to move down there, from what I’ve seen.

[digits_]

Once I got to the minimum hiring requirements just a few years later I had no interest, didn’t even apply.

I’m not saying the same will happen to you, but you may be surprised how your priorities change after a couple years.

This deserves to be repeated and is very applicable to any stage in ones career. I think a lot of pilots have old dream jobs they just can't be bothered with anymore. It's a fascinating thing really.

[flying4dollars]

I wasn't involved in that debate. I just wonder why you are so feverishly triggered by some internet posts. Keyboard warriors are always so chirpy

Why Altiplano even entertained responding to your constant mud slinging great points is beyond me.

Triggered? Not at all, snowflake. It’s just killing me that you wrote these sentences yourself and now that the same thing is happening to you, you can’t even see it.

Nah but I'm not debating anything with you so that's a diff ball game. I'm still just wondering why you get so worked up behind that keyboard of yours and it's amusing me how feisty you get over it

[flying4dollars]

Once I got to the minimum hiring requirements just a few years later I had no interest, didn’t even apply.

I’m not saying the same will happen to you, but you may be surprised how your priorities change after a couple years.

This deserves to be repeated and is very applicable to any stage in ones career. I think a lot of pilots have old dream jobs they just can't be bothered with anymore. It's a fascinating thing really.

I had dreamed of going to the ME when I was younger and as soon as I became competitive to them, they called for an interview and I turned them down as it just wasn't for me anymore. I would however give it a go if I could get an LOA from AC, but at the end of the day, it's the security I'm looking for and after what the sandbox did to it's pilots during covid, I'm not interested in that game.

[MorePlates]

Nah but I'm not debating anything with you so that's a diff ball game. I'm still just wondering why you get so worked up behind that keyboard of yours and it's amusing me how feisty you get over it

I’ve already explained it to you… watching yet another 50-year-old with such an amazing life that he spends his time melting down on a forum is absolutely cracking me up.

Please, by all means, keep going, watching a snowflake this committed to being this snowy is the best entertainment I’ve had online in ages.

[altiplano]

Telling children that are insulting you personally and making shit up to go @#$! themselves isn't melting down, it's a fair and deserved response.

[Blueontop]

Yeah, the state of Canada and Canadians taxes are bullshit and we need to be paid even more to make up for it. Thank the real boomers for that one, and honestly you fucking children that keep voting for socialists and digging us deeper.

You’re not entirely wrong but all the younger generations are clearly more conservative than the boomers.

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Funny how that works. Boomers spend their money making years pushing for conservative policies and lower taxes and as soon as they hit retirement.. boom they swing left to cash in on all those sweet liberal handouts.

[flying4dollars]

Nah but I'm not debating anything with you so that's a diff ball game. I'm still just wondering why you get so worked up behind that keyboard of yours and it's amusing me how feisty you get over it

I’ve already explained it to you… watching yet another 50-year-old with such an amazing life that he spends his time melting down on a forum is absolutely cracking me up.

Please, by all means, keep going, watching a snowflake this committed to being this snowy is the best entertainment I’ve had online in ages.

Look at him. Bro is totally unhinged! I barely had to do much to rattle him. Poor lil fella!

[MorePlates]

Look at him. Bro is totally unhinged! I barely had to do much to rattle him. Poor lil fella!

Boomer's completely losing the plot.

Honestly, I'm enjoying your meltdown more than your buddy's.

[Dry Guy]

Don't worry. Deep down they know something is coming for them.

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[Jean-Pierre]

It's poetic justice for voting Liberal again to protect their property value and eating their young once again. Maybe I'll even start voting Liberal too if it gets funny enough.

[redbusdriver]

altiplane-o-guy. Your boomer days on avcanada are done bouy. Skip town and sod off. We done saving for pressure cookers and skipping starbucks. We not need you so bye bye. F OFF

[Hysteria]

What is it exactly that Altiplano said?

-Make sacrifices, discretionary spending adds up (micro Econ 101)
-at the same time, high cost of living, housing prices and the state of Canada is a result of government and other factors
-criticizes AC management
-exercises caution toward expat life

I see ad hominem fallacies and ethos fallacies I.e. misunderstanding or mischaracterization of the opposing argument.

Was the main issue that he said make sacrifices?
Does his telling people to make sacrifices negate the data on cost of living and quality of life for millennials, gen Z and posterity?
Can’t two things be true at the same time?

[thepoors]

Was the main issue that he said make sacrifices?
Does his telling people to make sacrifices negate the data on cost of living and quality of life for millennials, gen Z and posterity?
Can’t two things be true at the same time?

The issue is he's implying that if the younger generations made the sacrifices he believes he's made, they could afford the lifestyle they want. And that's blatantly not true. Cutting out Starbucks is a drop in the ocean when cost of housing is 10x income. It's not going to make any appreciable difference. Plus the implication that a pilot at the national flag carrier should have to cut out buying a morning coffee to be able to afford an average standard of living is adding insult to injury.

So he is demonstrating his out of touch ignorance two-fold:
1) "Pull up your bootstraps and stop buying avocado toast" mentality of no one wants to make "sacrifices" anymore. When in reality these younger generations have had to sacrifice far more than boomers and gen x.
2) AC pay and working conditions are "not that bad" and you could do worse, or leave if you don't like it. I.e. let's keep settling and allow the profession to keep slipping farther and farther from not only other countries but also what it once was in Canada.