Air Canada Responds After Federal Government Opens Its Skies To Unexpected Competition

[Dry Guy]

https://www.thetravel.com/air-canada-re ... -emirates/

Transport Minister Steven MacKinnon announced that the government agreed to allow 14 passenger flights per week from Saudi Arabia, a major increase from the four previously.

According to CBC News, the deal also includes 35 passenger flights a week from the U.A.E., another increase from the previous maximum, which was 21. The deal will also see unlimited cargo flights for both countries.

[PittBoss]

Finally the Monopoly will suffer

[Dias]

Do you guys think Air Canada would remain a viable airline if Canada were to become part of the United States? Obviously they'd have to more than double pilot salaries to retain any crew but otherwise would they be able to compete with US legacy airlines?

[CaptDukeNukem]

Do you guys think Air Canada would remain a viable airline if Canada were to become part of the United States? Obviously they'd have to more than double pilot salaries to retain any crew but otherwise would they be able to compete with US legacy airlines?

How’s that Harvey’s law group application going for you?

[FL030]

I can't believe my own government is directly helping the biggest threat to our national airline. The Liberal party is like a comic book villain where you are just in disbelief at what awful thing they do next.

[Dry Guy]

Do you guys think Air Canada would remain a viable airline if Canada were to become part of the United States? Obviously they'd have to more than double pilot salaries to retain any crew but otherwise would they be able to compete with US legacy airlines?

The problem in this scenario is that Canada won't join the US all at once. Alberta will go first leaving the rest of the country to try to make a go of it without them. Taxes will have to go through the roof leaving everyone with no money for air travel.

[‘Bob’]

Do you guys think Air Canada would remain a viable airline if Canada were to become part of the United States? Obviously they'd have to more than double pilot salaries to retain any crew but otherwise would they be able to compete with US legacy airlines?

The problem in this scenario is that Canada won't join the US all at once. Alberta will go first leaving the rest of the country to try to make a go of it without them. Taxes will have to go through the roof leaving everyone with no money for air travel.

Why?

We will simply extort Alberta for all of the oil that has to go through the Trans Mountain pipeline and any imported goods they want to bring in.

People don’t realize how small Alberta’s economy is in the grand scheme of things. Alberta isn’t even as big as Toronto.. plus it’s far less diverse and far more vulnerable to being landlocked.

[Cypresshill]

I find the lack of diversity is one of Alberta’s most appealing attributes! A refreshing lack of professional victims, race hustlers, and overall laziness. Not to say it doesn’t exist there either, but refreshingly minor in nature compared to Toronto or Montreal; bastions of the gender confused and HQs of the true racists: Liberals.

[Henry_Hill]

I find the lack of diversity is one of Alberta’s most appealing attributes! A refreshing lack of professional victims, race hustlers, and overall laziness. Not to say it doesn’t exist there either, but refreshingly minor in nature compared to Toronto or Montreal; bastions of the gender confused and HQs of the true racists: Liberals.

It’s very telling your response to the word “diverse” which in this case meant economic diversity (not the racial diversity you so apparently despise ) leads you to spew an unhinged racist rant . Poor snowflakes so easily trigged by words

[altiplano]

Do you guys think Air Canada would remain a viable airline if Canada were to become part of the United States? Obviously they'd have to more than double pilot salaries to retain any crew but otherwise would they be able to compete with US legacy airlines?

The problem in this scenario is that Canada won't join the US all at once. Alberta will go first leaving the rest of the country to try to make a go of it without them. Taxes will have to go through the roof leaving everyone with no money for air travel.

Why?

We will simply extort Alberta for all of the oil that has to go through the Trans Mountain pipeline and any imported goods they want to bring in.

People don’t realize how small Alberta’s economy is in the grand scheme of things. Alberta isn’t even as big as Toronto.. plus it’s far less diverse and far more vulnerable to being landlocked.

More like Alberta would turn off the tap to BC...
You know that Alberta is connected to the US right? And has more pipeline capacity South than West?

If Alberta separated the US would be happy to keep them supplied through those routes and there would be immediate additional pipeline capacity added. BC on the other hand would be cut off from Canada. Central and Eastern Canada would lose meaningful access to the country's largest port in Vancouver and valuable Pacific shipping routes.

If Alberta goes it will be the end of modern Canada. BC won't stick around in end, culturally, economically it's totally different than the East and is the most under represented region in the country. Canada will revert to what it was approximately at the time of confederation, Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritimes, maybe Manitoba will stick around...

[digits_]

The problem in this scenario is that Canada won't join the US all at once. Alberta will go first leaving the rest of the country to try to make a go of it without them. Taxes will have to go through the roof leaving everyone with no money for air travel.

Why?

We will simply extort Alberta for all of the oil that has to go through the Trans Mountain pipeline and any imported goods they want to bring in.

People don’t realize how small Alberta’s economy is in the grand scheme of things. Alberta isn’t even as big as Toronto.. plus it’s far less diverse and far more vulnerable to being landlocked.

More like Alberta would turn off the tap to BC...
You know that Alberta is connected to the US right? And has more pipeline capacity South than West?

If Alberta separated the US would be happy to keep them supplied through those routes and there would be immediate additional pipeline capacity added. BC on the other hand would be cut off from Canada. Central and Eastern Canada would lose meaningful access to the country's largest port in Vancouver and valuable Pacific shipping routes.

If Alberta goes it will be the end of modern Canada. BC won't stick around in end, culturally, economically it's totally different than the East and is the most under represented region in the country. Canada will revert to what it was approximately at the time of confederation, Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritimes, maybe Manitoba will stick around...

Or, more realistically, you'll end up with a Brexit scenario where, once the dust settles, Alberta will realize that if they want to access the Canadian market, they'll likely have to make some concessions and end up in a situation that will be incredibly similar to where they are now.

There are very few hardcore separatists. Especially with the current political US climate. You might get 50% if you include people who don't really mind, but these people will quickly start to object if the hardcore 'we do what we want' group blows up all ties with Canada and they can't easily visit friends or family anymore after Canada inevitably retaliates with nuisance laws. Nobody would win. The Alberta situation is not unique.

[altiplano]

Why?

We will simply extort Alberta for all of the oil that has to go through the Trans Mountain pipeline and any imported goods they want to bring in.

People don’t realize how small Alberta’s economy is in the grand scheme of things. Alberta isn’t even as big as Toronto.. plus it’s far less diverse and far more vulnerable to being landlocked.

More like Alberta would turn off the tap to BC...
You know that Alberta is connected to the US right? And has more pipeline capacity South than West?

If Alberta separated the US would be happy to keep them supplied through those routes and there would be immediate additional pipeline capacity added. BC on the other hand would be cut off from Canada. Central and Eastern Canada would lose meaningful access to the country's largest port in Vancouver and valuable Pacific shipping routes.

If Alberta goes it will be the end of modern Canada. BC won't stick around in end, culturally, economically it's totally different than the East and is the most under represented region in the country. Canada will revert to what it was approximately at the time of confederation, Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritimes, maybe Manitoba will stick around...

Or, more realistically, you'll end up with a Brexit scenario where, once the dust settles, Alberta will realize that if they want to access the Canadian market, they'll likely have to make some concessions and end up in a situation that will be incredibly similar to where they are now.

There are very few hardcore separatists. Especially with the current political US climate. You might get 50% if you include people who don't really mind, but these people will quickly start to object if the hardcore 'we do what we want' group blows up all ties with Canada and they can't easily visit friends or family anymore after Canada inevitably retaliates with nuisance laws. Nobody would win. The Alberta situation is not unique.

I don't think Alberta needs the Canada market. This whole issue stems from the problems created by other Canadians in getting their product to tidewater and international markets. Eastern refineries buy most of their oil from the Middle East as is. Canada is hell bent on going broke on electric and eliminating the use of fossil fuel. Alberta wants to go around Canada, but they're stuck in the middle.

Families won't be cut off. This isn't East Berlin.

[Dry Guy]

Guys, Seattle has a port.

[altiplano]

Guys, Seattle has a port.

I'm not talking about loss of Pacific port for Alberta, but loss of Pacific port for Canada. Severance of the railway to the Pacific wipes out connection to the largest non-US market for steel, manufacturing, minerals, and more from from Central and Eastern Canada.

Will America be complicit in allowing their Northern competitor access in the event of a further frosting over of relations following an Alberta secession? No way.

We already see Saskatchewan bypassing BC with $B investment in their Pacific potash export terminal in Washington State. Money is planning on a new reality.