2026 PIT FLEET AC

[Sinner]

Most junior AC pilot: 5742

Junior NB FO YVR: 5488

Junior RP YVR: 5094

Most junior YVR pilot was hired in February 2025. The wait was approximately 1 year for YVR base.

[piedpiper]

It's hard to say what the future will bring with YVR, but the A220 base is still growing. Rumours are it's expected to be around 180CA/170FO which would add another 60CA/70FO or so. Now will that come out of further reductions from the 737? Hard to say. There is also the 787-10s arriving over the next 24 months that will create an upwards movement as well. All in all if you join AC now I'd say your future to get to YVR if that's your goal is not that far off.

[Snipergang]

Yeah makes sense. Thanks to all that replied. Short term pain long term gain for those of us wanting to join but are out in the western part of Canada.

[altiplano]

Junior NB FO YVR: 5̶̶̶4̶8̶8̶ 5490

Junior RP YVR: 5̶0̶9̶4̶ 5003

777 RP and 320 FO are the junior positions.

[kozak_letun]

Does anyone know if you are seat locked if you get RP in PIT? Can you bid NB FO within 2 years?

There's always lots of confusion about position freezes.

Positions are grouped. Widebody C, Narrowbody C, WB FO, NB FO, and RP. If you bid to a lower group you are frozen for 36 months in that position, otherwise you are free to bid to a higher groups. Once you start training into a higher rated group you are frozen from bidding within that group or lower for 30 months (from when you are awarded the position).

New hire pilots are frozen for 30 months from bidding into equal or lower grouped positions, with the exception of a one time award to a equal or lower rated position to transfer to a different base, if they do so they then have a new 30 month freeze in that position.

RP is a great place to start because you can bid up to NB FO. Once the 319 position is removed YUL, YYZ and YVR will all have 320,737, and 320 bases. 767FO should be avoided by pilots looking to transfer out of YYZ and 330RP should be avoided for those looking to transfer to YVR. Base transfers are much quicker and easier on the same type than to positions that require training.

Thank you for the clarification. It’s really helpful.

Does anyone know what the future holds for the 737 in YYZ with the whole Rouge move? Are they planning to train up a lot of new people? Is it common for people to bid from FO positions on other narrow bodies or RPs onto the 737? I bet they will be doing some really sweet southern stops. My understanding is that everyone currently at mainline 737 has to be retrained once all the jets move to Rouge. I ask because if I would get the chance to join the fleet as a new hire would there be a high probability of being stuck at the bottom fpr a very long time.

[piedpiper]

Honestly dude I get all the questions, but at the end of the day it's all out of your control as a new hire. Best thing you can do is accept that you'll end up where you end up, and reasses based on seniority after a few years.

No one has a crystal ball.

That said IF I were to guess, YYZ/YUL should see a bit of growth as YVR is shrinking on the 737 front. I am not sure what the current deal is with positions becuase I don't look at bids anymore but there were NH 737 FO positions in YYZ for a long time. And no, not everyone needs to be retrained, there's a OE leg and some ipad work. That's it.

[crystalpizza]

You probably have nothing to worry about if you want 737 FO in YYZ as that’s still one of the more junior positions systemwide today. Lots of vacancies left in it as well on the last bid. If you can’t get it in PIT you can try to draw a position at a different base (YUL) if there’s any available and then you’re allowed one base transfer with training as a new hire, to whatever you can then hold in YYZ.

They’ve just started reducing the old YYZ L319 position and seem to be dispersing it between the three ML NBs in YYZ. Movement happens all the time all over the place, including from RP to NB FO and also vice versa.

Comparing the first bid of 2025 to the last, there was a slight movement of overall 737 positions from west to east, IIRC a net loss of less than a dozen CA/FO each overall.

[Sinner]

Junior NB FO YVR: 5̶̶̶4̶8̶8̶ 5490

Junior RP YVR: 5̶0̶9̶4̶ 5003

777 RP and 320 FO are the junior positions.

787 RP at 5094 is more junior that 777 RP at 5003

[Snipergang]

I guess you get what you get. To be honest I’d love 737, but long term who knows how long it be till you could hold a 737 position in YVR. Everyone is going 220 it sounds like. With more and more planes coming who knows why the future holds.

[altiplano]

Junior NB FO YVR: 5̶̶̶4̶8̶8̶ 5490

Junior RP YVR: 5̶0̶9̶4̶ 5003

777 RP and 320 FO are the junior positions.

787 RP at 5094 is more junior that 777 RP at 5003

Totally... I was drinking and driving I guess... can't tell which way is up.

[Snipergang]

Another question for you guys, in the interview I heard before they even start they take your logbook and go through it. Are they pretty picky on it? I heard that pretty much every time you have in there needs to be certified.

[altiplano]

Another question for you guys, in the interview I heard before they even start they take your logbook and go through it. Are they pretty picky on it? I heard that pretty much every time you have in there needs to be certified.

Most of your time should be certified. I was FedExing my book around the month before my interview to previous employers getting it signed...

My first bunch of time from my first job wasn't signed off because they no longer existed, but I had the old CP as a reference. Also the job I had at the time of my interview wasn't signed off and the interviewers understood why... at the time they said I'd need to get it certified if I got the AC job offer, but it never came up again and I never went back to my old employer to get it signed after I left.

Don't leave things to question... get your stuff verified... try to get written references to bring.in with you... make it easy for them to check the boxes they need to hire you.

[piedpiper]

Another question for you guys, in the interview I heard before they even start they take your logbook and go through it. Are they pretty picky on it? I heard that pretty much every time you have in there needs to be certified.

Have all your milestones tabbed with labels. If you are missing any signatures from companies, that's OK if you can explain why (way too far away, defunct etc.) and certify it true yourself with a signature (you are basically making a legal statment that they are true). If you want to go an extra step you could notarize a statment/signature. They looked at my logbook for a total of 5 minutes. That said I also had a lot more than the minimum experience and left seat 705 time so perhaps they might be more thourough with someone who is only a 703/704 pilot with 2001 hours.

[Snipergang]

Yeah, my previous employer I called texted and emailed and nothing back in regards to them certifying my logbook. So we’ll see. Everything else I have logged is certified.

[TeePeeCreeper]

Yeah, my previous employer I called texted and emailed and nothing back in regards to them certifying my logbook. So we’ll see. Everything else I have logged is certified.

I’m of the opinion that regardless of how you last left your previous employer that it’s poor form on their part to not acknowledge your calls or texts in regards to certifying your logbook. (Just my personal opinion)

If I were you, I’d politely ask again and if you still have a refusal, by all means call them out publicly here as a PSA for your fellow pilots.

TPC

[Snipergang]

Yeah, my previous employer I called texted and emailed and nothing back in regards to them certifying my logbook. So we’ll see. Everything else I have logged is certified.

I’m of the opinion that regardless of how you last left your previous employer that it’s poor form on their part to not acknowledge your calls or texts in regards to certifying your logbook. (Just my personal opinion)

If I were you, I’d politely ask again and if you still have a refusal, by all means call them out publicly here as a PSA for your fellow pilots.

TPC

Yeah I completely agree, a lot of people I’ve talked to agree too. My next step is I’m going to write up a letter with the time and hours I had there and just have my signature and then a spot for either the ops manager or chief pilot to sign, and then go from there. If they don’t do anything about it or don’t respond I’ll be slandering them everywhere lol