Strike vote

[thepoors]

If the union asks or organizes everyone to call in sick on a specific day, that would be considered illegal job action. Now…. If you personally decide you don’t feel great today and it just happens to line up with everyone else not feeling great today, That’s a different story. However, this type of job action is dangerous.

No, you're not going to fool them this way.

Any "bookoff" type event that falls outside the statistical norm will be deemed illegal job action. Yes, I know each pilot must self-assess their fitness and on an individual basis that's defensible but in the context of contract negotiations and suddenly a large percentage of pilots are all suddenly "not fit". Well, the CIRB would call it what it is - illegal. I mean "illegal" according to the stacked deck that our country's labour laws are.

Yes "illegal" the same way forced arbitration is illegal, apparently. If we are forced to fight fire with fire, that's what needs to happen.

[pelmet]

Do you think an arbitrator is going to give the AC pilots back all that they have given up (or had taken away) over two decades? Do you think an arbitrator is going to upgrade work rules that are arguably the worst in the industry to a level that is comparable to US legacy carriers? Don't you think that an arbitrator is going to be unsympathetic to the impact on profits that would result from the aforementioned changes?

Right-to-strike is the right to fight for those enhancements, understanding the consequence.

Question is whether or not in Canada there is in fact a right-to-strike.

Should the arbitrator consider how many billions Air Canada lost during Covid?

Whose rights are more important in this rail strike - 40 million Canadians negatively affected(some very seriously) or 4000 strikers? How does that apply to Air Canada. I say: Binding Arbitration.

I'm happy for AC pilots to get a decent raise but I think you will have as much sympathy from the public as the public servants have.

I think the underlying theme of your message sounds a bit like "now is not a good time to strike". Which is true (from a public point of view). But you can say that pretty much anytime. It's never a good time for a strike. And the 'worse' time it is, the more effective a strike usually is.

The right to legally strike in Canada is already very weak. You need a union, need to bargain for months, go through all kinds of processes. Workers can generally strike maybe once every 5 years? Given that the strike opportunity is already so limited, when it finally is time to strike, good or bad timing, the workers fully deserve to exercise that right. And public perception shouldn't matter. And the government absolutely should not intervene. If companies piss off their workers for 5 years, don't be surprised that things blow up when given the opportunity.

If you want to level the playing field: allow unions to strike at any time. Most European countries have such striking culture. And there public perception is important, which keeps the unions in check not to go overboard.

Looks like the senate might be listening to me.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/o ... r-AA25pDhL

Binding arbitration allows an unbiased person to weigh the arguments of both sides and ends either party from making outrageous demands that lead to strikes/lockouts that have significant long-term harm to our economy....

https://www.icis.com/explore/resources/ ... in-canada/

https://financialpost.com/opinion/nutri ... eed-change