beingcanadian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2026 7:21 pm
A job posting just went out.
How many are they hiring and for how long?
16 FO vacancies for Sept bid, to be filled from Encore flow. It has been mentioned they will plan to hire the following month too, so some OTS is expected.
These aren’t to replace FOs upgrading, they are due to FOs leaving ‘natural and planned attrition’ is the official term.
Some upgrades are expected though. To be announced later.
And yes, they need to replace pilots who left or are leaving.
I can imagine that the guys from the east displaced to Vancouver find it rather hard and decide to leave.
AR jockeys are headed out the door when they lose arbitration in August. That makes 200+ eligible for manditory retirement in the next 2 years. Not everyone retires at 65 as well. Always a reactive solution rather than proactive.
beingcanadian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2026 7:21 pm
A job posting just went out.
How many are they hiring and for how long?
16 FO vacancies for Sept bid, to be filled from Encore flow. It has been mentioned they will plan to hire the following month too, so some OTS is expected.
These aren’t to replace FOs upgrading, they are due to FOs leaving ‘natural and planned attrition’ is the official term.
So I guess the people waiting in the pool should've been called out.
JungleRiot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:15 am
AR jockeys are headed out the door when they lose arbitration in August. That makes 200+ eligible for manditory retirement in the next 2 years. Not everyone retires at 65 as well. Always a reactive solution rather than proactive.
How can you be so sure that they are going to lose the arbitration?
JungleRiot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:15 am
AR jockeys are headed out the door when they lose arbitration in August. That makes 200+ eligible for manditory retirement in the next 2 years. Not everyone retires at 65 as well. Always a reactive solution rather than proactive.
How can you be so sure that they are going to lose the arbitration?
What make you think they're going to win it? It was agreed that they leave property by nov 1st 2025. Seems like WJ are the only ones tolerating this non sense.
JungleRiot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:15 am
AR jockeys are headed out the door when they lose arbitration in August. That makes 200+ eligible for manditory retirement in the next 2 years. Not everyone retires at 65 as well. Always a reactive solution rather than proactive.
JungleRiot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:15 am
AR jockeys are headed out the door when they lose arbitration in August. That makes 200+ eligible for manditory retirement in the next 2 years. Not everyone retires at 65 as well. Always a reactive solution rather than proactive.
How can you be so sure that they are going to lose the arbitration?
What make you think they're going to win it? It was agreed that they leave property by nov 1st 2025. Seems like WJ are the only ones tolerating this non sense.
I just have doubts. The Union is evaluating how many AR pilots could be accommodated. The number they will come up with weigh a lot in the arbitration.
Also on a different case, every body was convinced that swg pilots would get the years of service...
nohojob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 5:15 pm
How can you be so sure that they are going to lose the arbitration?
What make you think they're going to win it? It was agreed that they leave property by nov 1st 2025. Seems like WJ are the only ones tolerating this non sense.
I just have doubts. The Union is evaluating how many AR pilots could be accommodated. The number they will come up with weigh a lot in the arbitration.
Also on a different case, every body was convinced that swg pilots would get the years of service...
So wait and see.
That is how Jazz did it. Bottom line is it is a lousy deal for the AR pilots. No hiding on RSV collecting a paycheque for ‘unable to fly route due age 65’. Schedule bidding restrictions. De facto loss of seniority. Hard limits on number of AR pilots. Some bases/positions not available to bid for AR pilots. A handful of training department positions available for AR pilots.
No doubt this and the HRT decision for the AC pilots will be entered into evidence by the employer. I would expect the best result for WJ AR pilots will look like the Jazz LOU. Worst case they get the AC result (zero).
The wording of the latest job ad is a bit weird.. “accepting applications for future consideration”. Do they plan on hiring outside encore in the near future or are they just building a pool?
PropsForwardGearDown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 1:38 pm
The wording of the latest job ad is a bit weird.. “accepting applications for future consideration”. Do they plan on hiring outside encore in the near future or are they just building a pool?
Why wouldn't they hire outside encore? Are they supposed to only hire from within?
