170 to the FAF

[Ghost Rider]

What would happen if I told the final approach controller that I was unable to maintain 170 to the FAF
The reason I ask is that my airline has new procedures, and if I hold that speed, I will be unstable and have to perform a go-around.

[digits_]

If it's a common airplane type and your company is the only one that has rules that make it impossible for you to maintain 170, you can hear their eyes roll over the radio, but not much else will happen. It mainly affects traffic behind you and those people will also start rolling their eyes and call you all kinds of silly names in their head.

[ant_321]

What would happen if I told the final approach controller that I was unable to maintain 170 to the FAF
The reason I ask is that my airline has new procedures, and if I hold that speed, I will be unstable and have to perform a go-around.

What procedure would make 170 to the FAF impossible?

[yeah yeah]

At a busy airport, say YYZ, if everyone would now report they're requiring 160 to the marker, then a 56 arrival/hr rate may become a 52 or 54 rate. If the new rate has to be sustained for several hours, then there will be more flow restrictions if the demand is higher than the target rate. As an arrival controller, it makes no difference if I need to run an extra half-mile or mile in trail in a mixed-mode operation, but then again I'm not paying for extra fuel or missed/delayed connections on your end. Methinks there would be discussions at higher levels

[Cessna 180]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHfj3DGrE3Y

[ZBBYLW]

Just curious what your stable approach tolerance is that holding 170 to the faf (unless you have a super strong tailwind) won't work? In YYZ most of the fafs are far enough out that should be no problem to hit approach speed by 1000.

[CaptDukeNukem]

What would happen if I told the final approach controller that I was unable to maintain 170 to the FAF
The reason I ask is that my airline has new procedures, and if I hold that speed, I will be unstable and have to perform a go-around.

What airline are you at?

[kevenv]

What would happen if I told the final approach controller that I was unable to maintain 170 to the FAF
The reason I ask is that my airline has new procedures, and if I hold that speed, I will be unstable and have to perform a go-around.

Tell the controller what you can do. The controller will either make it work behind you or pull you and re sequence knowing you can't do 170.

[Me262]

Just curious what your stable approach tolerance is that holding 170 to the faf (unless you have a super strong tailwind) won't work? In YYZ most of the fafs are far enough out that should be no problem to hit approach speed by 1000.

His company might dictate to be fully configured by the FAF, maybe even in VMC. Some aircrafts max speed is 170 or lower fully configured.

[nohojob]

I can see the 170 to the being a problem when you fly a ferry for instance. VREF could as low as 135 kt.

[co-joe]

I've said no. They asked for 200 to the IF then asked for 170 at the FAF. I laughed at her and just said unable due to the last assigned speed. She just said "do your best". It's a dumb clearance. If it was so important, they would have it on the approach plate. If me being 180 ruins tower's day I'll just do a go around.