Bird dog down in Territories?
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/t ... r-AA27zp4T
TSB needs to recover airplane parts before determining cause of NWT in-flight breakup
Investigators with the Transportation Safety Board say they need to salvage the plane that crashed in Fort Simpson last month and its missing parts to determine what caused it to break apart mid-flight.
On June 24, a plane assisting with wildfire response crashed, killing Oliver Lamy, an air attack officer, Ryan Beck, an air attack officer trainee, and a third person whom officials have not yet identified.
In an update released Thursday, the TSB said it was developing a plan to salvage the missing parts once the area is safe to enter. Crews continue to battle a wildfire burning around the community that has forced residents from their homes since June 28.
The latest report paints a vague picture of what happened on the downed flight. The aircraft had been flying for about two and a half hours, circling the wildfire twice with the plane’s breakup happening at the start of its third pass.
The plane had been supporting a water bomber fighting the fire.
Jonathan Lee, the TSB's regional manager for western Canada, previously said the in-flight breakup could be from the physical forces exerted on the plane exceeding what it’s designed to withstand, or it could be the result of materials being old or corroded.
The transportation board wrote that it has the aircraft’s technical and maintenance files and is reviewing them.
When investigators arrived at the site June 26, they discovered the wreckage was missing its left wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers in the tail section. They did not find those parts during an initial aerial search.
TSB needs to recover airplane parts before determining cause of NWT in-flight breakup
Investigators with the Transportation Safety Board say they need to salvage the plane that crashed in Fort Simpson last month and its missing parts to determine what caused it to break apart mid-flight.
On June 24, a plane assisting with wildfire response crashed, killing Oliver Lamy, an air attack officer, Ryan Beck, an air attack officer trainee, and a third person whom officials have not yet identified.
In an update released Thursday, the TSB said it was developing a plan to salvage the missing parts once the area is safe to enter. Crews continue to battle a wildfire burning around the community that has forced residents from their homes since June 28.
The latest report paints a vague picture of what happened on the downed flight. The aircraft had been flying for about two and a half hours, circling the wildfire twice with the plane’s breakup happening at the start of its third pass.
The plane had been supporting a water bomber fighting the fire.
Jonathan Lee, the TSB's regional manager for western Canada, previously said the in-flight breakup could be from the physical forces exerted on the plane exceeding what it’s designed to withstand, or it could be the result of materials being old or corroded.
The transportation board wrote that it has the aircraft’s technical and maintenance files and is reviewing them.
When investigators arrived at the site June 26, they discovered the wreckage was missing its left wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers in the tail section. They did not find those parts during an initial aerial search.
Re: Bird dog down in Territories?
Dry Guy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2026 9:13 pmTransport Canada was the AME for Carson Air? Wasn't the pilot heavily intoxicated?
What I blame tc for was not requiring a 3rd AI. Based on the evidence, they (Carson metro)had an electrical failure that left them with a t&b for primary indication,(because we never actually practice partial panel). Leading to loss of control followed by overstress on recovering to vmc in a dive. The metro, dornier, and jet stream all have similar setups with either no 3rd AI, or have it wired to the batt(hot bus) so lose all attitude during electrical failure. Yes the captain was impaired , but it as more than that. Anyway this is a separate unrelated to current discussion.
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Looks like Saskatchewan has taken the 690 out of service pending results of a safety review on the 3 airframes.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/regina/article/s ... sh-in-nwt/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/regina/article/s ... sh-in-nwt/
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The pilot has been identified by Buffalo as Robert MacLeod. It is likely he is well known and respected here.
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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His obituary is at Cobbs Funeral Home, Riverview NB. He is from there as I understand, very sad all around. Appears he was a well respected person and aviator.
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Any more news on what happened exactly? Is Saskatchewan flying theirs again?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship



