Medical privacy disclosure

[The Brantford Boomer]

YOU BETTER GET USED TO IT. 10 MORE YEARS!

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[Canoehead]

Looks like this wording has changed.

What happens if you don’t want to provide your personal information?

Old form:

If you do not provide your personal information, the Civil Aviation Medicine Branch will suspend assessment of your medical certificate and/or application, with no entitlement for a refund.

New form:

If you do not provide your personal information, the Civil Aviation Medicine Branch may suspend assessment of your medical certificate and/or application, with no entitlement for a refund.

[I WAS Birddog]

Looks like this wording has changed.

What happens if you don’t want to provide your personal information?

Old form:

If you do not provide your personal information, the Civil Aviation Medicine Branch will suspend assessment of your medical certificate and/or application, with no entitlement for a refund.

New form:

If you do not provide your personal information, the Civil Aviation Medicine Branch may suspend assessment of your medical certificate and/or application, with no entitlement for a refund.

Is this accurate? Can members confirm?

This is an all too important topic to let fade away.

safe travels everyone. Keep talking.

iWbd

[Dry Guy]

I don't think may suspend is any better. I have no doubt the fact that it's taking years for TC to process Medicals has resulted in pilots withholding medical issues so they don't lose their livelihoods while waiting for a response.

[Canoehead]

Is this accurate? Can members confirm?

This is an all too important topic to let fade away.

safe travels everyone. Keep talking.

iWbd

https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Corp-Serv-Gen/ ... 0886_BO_PX

This should link to the new form.

"Will" made it impossible for them potentially with hundreds or thousands of professional pilot medicals pulled (Execs said no dice to TC) vs "may" gives them something to hang over heads (individual pilots now face the pressure alone).

[Dry Guy]

ALPA seems pretty proud of themselves for getting that May.

[Me262]

Which makes no difference in getting your medical pulled because you refuse to sign on the dotted line. At least they can't freeze your bank accounts, although they will be empty anyway.

[Canoehead]

Update:

Notice to CARAC members,

Transport Canada (TC) is re-issuing a simplified Privacy Notice and separate Regulatory Offence Notice. These documents will replace the recently issued Privacy Notice and Declaration (26-0886E/F, V2).

Privacy Notice: https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Corp-Serv-Gen/ ... 0886_BO_PX

Regulatory Offence Notice: https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Corp-Serv-Gen/ ... 0889_BO_PX

TC is returning to the previous practice of having Civil Aviation Medical Examiners provide these notices to applicants prior to starting the aviation medical examination, but with no requirement for signature by the applicants. TC has removed the elements of the previous Privacy Notice and Declaration that caused confusion and concern.

Any applicant or medical certificate holder who signed a previous version of the Privacy Notice and Declaration, as of 9 December 2025, will not be affected, nor is any further action needed on their part. Any new applicants who submitted an application for medical certification but did not sign the Privacy Notice and Declaration as of 9 December 2025, will be contacted individually to confirm whether they wish to proceed with their application.

Throughout this process, there have been no changes to the Minister’s authority to collect information or applicant obligations to provide information for aviation medical certification. It is still necessary for applicants to read and understand the privacy notice to proceed with the medical certification process.

Thank you for your patience as we implement this process update.

Sincerely,

Canadian Aviation Regulation Advisory Council
Transport Canada / Government of Canada

[digits_]

Seems like a big change? No need to give them access to all your info, only states that the info you do provide them can be shared amonst themselves?

Or am I misunderstanding the statement?

[taro]

What if you signed it after December 9, 2025?

Does TC still get to scroll through your file looking for things you didn't even talk to the CAME about?

[Dry Guy]

They probably already did before the ink was dry on your signature.

[oldnbold]

Dozens of health-care workers caught 'snooping' into Lapu-Lapu Day victims' medical records: report

There were 71 incidents of snooping, according to the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -9.7096878

[pelmet]

So what is the latest?

Any pilots losing medicals because of TC searching?

[cncpc]

If you read Mark Carney's book you will see he has a personal hatred of commercial aviation for climate change reasons. It would not surprise me if this is part of a multi-pronged government approach to try to impact Canadian airlines. At a minimum it is further move towards a UK style nanny state government with little personal rights and freedoms.
I have the good fortune to be able to travel overseas for my healthcare needs and will do that more now for privacy reasons. I've found it to be inexpensive and very convenient in terms of wait times. I can get a referred specialist appointment the same day I got the referral and in the same healthcare clinic building. In Canada I needed to wait 6+ months and travel across the country for the same.

Don't take this the wrong way, Daniel, but you seem to have a digestive problem. You're the last guy I'd want to think is in charge of an aircraft anywhere.

I have no problem with TC seeing my records. If I'm not safe, I'm not fit to fly.

[propfeather]

I was not asked to sign anything at my recent medical.

[lostav8r]

Which makes no difference in getting your medical pulled because you refuse to sign on the dotted line. At least they can't freeze your bank accounts, although they will be empty anyway.

Aside from the words of one Con MP nobody gave any proof of these frozen accounts, would you take a liberal MP's word for something?

[CaptDukeNukem]

If you guys can’t sign, then you’re hiding a problem. It’s as simple as that.

[pelmet]

Probably best that TC can see all the records. Too many intentional crashes due to mental cases.

From memory:
737 in China a couple of years ago
ATR in Botswana
ATR in Morocco
Silk Air 737
EgyptAir 767
The European A320
JAL DC-8
Air India 787
MAS 777
Fedex DC-10 where the crew had to fight off the jumpseat pilot
Even AC had one where a paying passenger had to pull the F/O out of the cockpit and handcuff him to a seat in the cabin(wouldn't mind more details on that one).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/jan ... port.world

[digits_]

Probably best that TC can see all the records. Too many intentional crashes due to mental cases.

From memory:
737 in China a couple of years ago
ATR in Botswana
ATR in Morocco
Silk Air 737
EgyptAir 767
The European A320
JAL DC-8
Air India 787
MAS 777
Fedex DC-10 where the crew had to fight off the jumpseat pilot
Even AC had one where a paying passenger had to pull the F/O out of the cockpit and handcuff him to a seat in the cabin(wouldn't mind more details on that one).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/jan ... port.world

And possibly only 1 fell under the jurisdiction of TC.

Could it be that making pilots hide their mental problems is *not* the way forward?

[pelmet]

Probably best that TC can see all the records. Too many intentional crashes due to mental cases.

From memory:
737 in China a couple of years ago
ATR in Botswana
ATR in Morocco
Silk Air 737
EgyptAir 767
The European A320
JAL DC-8
Air India 787
MAS 777
Fedex DC-10 where the crew had to fight off the jumpseat pilot
Even AC had one where a paying passenger had to pull the F/O out of the cockpit and handcuff him to a seat in the cabin(wouldn't mind more details on that one).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/jan ... port.world

And possibly only 1 fell under the jurisdiction of TC.

Could it be that making pilots hide their mental problems is *not* the way forward?

I suppose every one of the countries involved could say.....Hey, only one of these incidents involved our jurisdiction. Therefore, no issue. I think the reality is that it is already being hidden.

[digits_]

I think the reality is that it is already being hidden.

Yes of course it is. So why make it harder for people who are already hiding it to get professional help, or for people on the edge to scare them away from getting professional help because an overzealous government might dig into their medical history at some point?

[pelmet]

I think the reality is that it is already being hidden.

Yes of course it is. So why make it harder for people who are already hiding it to get professional help, or for people on the edge to scare them away from getting professional help because an overzealous government might dig into their medical history at some point?

It is not harder to get professional help. Simply pick up the phone and ask your doctor office for a referral for professional mental help.

[Me262]

I think the reality is that it is already being hidden.

Yes of course it is. So why make it harder for people who are already hiding it to get professional help, or for people on the edge to scare them away from getting professional help because an overzealous government might dig into their medical history at some point?

It is not harder to get professional help. Simply pick up the phone and ask your doctor office for a referral for professional mental help.

And go unemployed? Nobody will do that. This sounds exactly like the vax propaganda, nobody forces you do it, but if you don't say good bye to your income and livelihood.

Instead of cutthroat removal of medical that takes months to years to get back, how about make it so no pilot is fearful to seek professional help. This could include pulling your medical only if the doc says it's required and once it's pulled, make it very easy to get it back once the doc clears you.

[digits_]

Yes of course it is. So why make it harder for people who are already hiding it to get professional help, or for people on the edge to scare them away from getting professional help because an overzealous government might dig into their medical history at some point?

It is not harder to get professional help. Simply pick up the phone and ask your doctor office for a referral for professional mental help.

And go unemployed? Nobody will do that. This sounds exactly like the vax propaganda, nobody forces you do it, but if you don't say good bye to your income and livelihood.

Instead of cutthroat removal of medical that takes months to years to get back, how about make it so no pilot is fearful to seek professional help. This could include pulling your medical only if the doc says it's required and once it's pulled, make it very easy to get it back once the doc clears you.

Exactly! Doesn't have to be so hard. Doc makes the decision and then TC can spend years investigating the doc if they suspect something fishy while you keep your license.

[pelmet]

Yes of course it is. So why make it harder for people who are already hiding it to get professional help, or for people on the edge to scare them away from getting professional help because an overzealous government might dig into their medical history at some point?

It is not harder to get professional help. Simply pick up the phone and ask your doctor office for a referral for professional mental help.

And go unemployed? Nobody will do that. This sounds exactly like the vax propaganda, nobody forces you do it, but if you don't say good bye to your income and livelihood.

Instead of cutthroat removal of medical that takes months to years to get back, how about make it so no pilot is fearful to seek professional help. This could include pulling your medical only if the doc says it's required and once it's pulled, make it very easy to get it back once the doc clears you.

Most of them can work ground jobs in the same company. Not interested in nutcases flying my aircraft. Go to the doctor and if not fit, no more flying.

If no pilot is fearful of getting professional help(fearful of losing their flying job), that means that diagnosed dangerous people get to keep flying. If TC were to check every pilots medical right now, we could end up with 5 or 10 that would be grounded. That would make things safer.

It's like a security pass, your background gets looked into.